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  • #13906
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    M-DYMES
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    Aight so if you been reading my posts, you know I’ve been high on Monroe for the last couple weeks. I was thinking with a solid tourney showing, he would possibly be a top 5 pick. Lots of you were agreeing with me, but how do you feel about his stock now? Will he go top 5 come the draft? I mean he’s still got workouts and everything to prove himself, but those are more individualized and his game is more built around improving him teammates. Thoughts?

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  • #267430
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    knicksfan7
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    With a guy with his level of talent he could just say the NBA can wait it will be there when I decide I am ready, and stay his junior year.

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  • #267438
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    well we’ll never know if a solid tourney showing could make him a top 5 because G-Town is out in the first round.

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  • #267443
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    Sorry to say but there is no way i touch Greg Monroe with a Top 5 pick. Don’t get me wrong, he has all the tools but he is just too soft! He lacks the NBA toughness needed to be a good big man. He can pass extremely well but on the next level, if you can’t command attention with your offensive game their won’t be anyone open to pass it to. On the college level he gets doubled because his length, that won’t be the case in the league. Of all his great attributes he seems to be missing the most important for a great big man and that’s the attitude to be dominate

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  • #267445
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    MY OPINION HERE:

    NBA Comparison for Greg Monroe

    Ceiling: Pau Gasol
    Why? Can hit the mid range J pretty well and has pretty good moves down low. Good dribbler and knows how to drive the lane. Decent rebounder. And the main reason… They both seem soft.

    Floor: Josh McRoberts
    Why? Nice shooters good passers, soft, they just can’t put all the moves together against other NBA players.

    Room: Andray Blatche
    Why? A solid 18-9 guy for his career.. They are both good mid range shooters and dribblers and passers.. Sometimes they stop playing when not scoring

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  • #267447
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    Greg Monroe is still top 10 and i thought he was behind Wall, Turner, Cousins, Favors, Johnson anyway and maybe going to the elite 8 may have push him above Johnson but he will be one of the better players in the NBA next season trust.

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  • #267464
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    Geoff Petrie had his greatest success with Vlade, Webber, and Brad Miller. All three was/are great passing big men. He has long been a proponent of the Princeton offense. It would come as a stunner for me if Petrie would go big with a pick and the 5-10 range and pass on Monroe if chooses to enter this draft.

    As for his toughness, what a load of garbage. Who in this draft is has “NBA toughness.” Does screaming equal toughness? Because Cousins screams, but he also lacks the mental toughness necessary to keep his head in the game when calls and shots aren’t going his way. Would you rather have Alfa Aminu who disappears at the end of every single game Wake plays? Favors? Donatas? Davis? Whiteside? I must have missed where it was Monroe’s assignment to chase around the guards of Ohio. I must have missed an entire season where he was the dominating big man in the Big East. It has to be Monroe’s fault that he didn’t recruit Wall to Georgetown.

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    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/03/georgetown-big-man-greg-monroe-says-hell-be-back-next-year/1

    Less than an hour passed after Georgetown’s humiliating tournament loss to 14th-seeded Ohio before Hoyas center Greg Monroe said he would return for his junior season.

    The 6-foot-11 sophomore averaged 16 points and 9.5 rebounds this season and is a projected first-round pick should he enter the NBA draft.

    “I’m ready to go back and see how I can help my team next year,” he said.

    Georgetown coach John Thompson III isn’t convinced.

    “You know, I think that he’s going to sit and make that decision as time goes on right here,” he said.

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  • #267473
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    M-DYMES
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    He’d be a moron not to leave this season. With a lockout possibly hanging in the balance, you gotta get that money while you can. Don’t fool yourselves, he would be a fool not to leave.

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  • #267475
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    You just said it The BIG EAST, one of the most overrated conferences in the league.
    The only big men in that conference and their stats vs G-Town

    Jamine Patterson (Providence) 23ppg, 7rpg, 3bpg
    Mack Koshwal (DePaul) 16ppg, 8rpg
    Herb Pope (Seton Hall) 6ppg, 10rpg

    Greg Monroe vs:
    Providence (12ppg, 12rpg)
    DePaul (10ppg, 5rpg)
    Seton Hall (8ppg, 9rpg)
    Syracuse (8ppg, 5rpg)

    Totals:
    vs regular teams without dominant big man:
    16.5ppg, 9.6rpg

    vs teams with a dominant big man:
    9.5ppg, 7.7rpg

    When we say he’s soft, that’s what we mean.

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  • #267482
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    Meditated States
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    I don’t know about top 5

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  • #267484
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    See that is cute what you just did where you took three arbitrary games and tried to make a point. Of course, UConn doesn’t have big men (Oriakhi, Robinson, Majok, Edwards). Arinze Onuaku and Rick Jackson must be slugs. Antonio Pena and Mouphtaou Yarou are complete nobodies. Let’s completely throw out Yancy Gates, Hamady N’diaye, Samardo Samuels, and ND’s big men (Harangody, Nash, Abromaitis). You must be completely comfortable ignoring the fact that he completely dominated Duke’s bigs. Just an army of prep All-Americans that line Big East rosters are just nothing, right? He had big games against Washington and Butler. Apparently, those games don’t matter. It is the Mac Koshwal game where true abilities are shown, despite the fact the game was never in doubt and that Vaughn started the game on Koshwal and Monroe didn’t move onto him until after it became beyond certain that nobody else on DePaul had any chance of scoring. That point just isn’t important. Jamine Peterson wasn’t guarding Monroe and Monroe wasn’t guarding him. You also forgot to mention that Monroe dropped 12 assists on Providence. It must be because unselfishness and making one’s teammates better is a soft act. Herb Pope and Seton Hall. You have to be joking.

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  • #267486
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    sheltwon3
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    Why would Monroe be an idiot, Tim Duncan went back to school several times when he was a guranteed number one pick. Monroe may like college and most Georgetown bigmen turn out well although it has been a while since Georgetown has gotten a solid big man prospect. Roy Hibbet is nice though. I think he went to Georgetown i be forgetting. Getting old i guess lol.

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  • #267488
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    knicksfan7
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    Yeah Sheltwon that’s what I said about Monroe, he would not be a fool if he decided to stay. He still has room for improvement, and he will get picked in the top 10 whether he leaves or stays next year or even his senior year. The guy won’t lose much money, if any.

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  • #267492
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    bobbyb
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    Monroe is ready , i take him over favors, aldrich, cousins any day of the week. One thing stood out about the big east tourney, he had 2 games in a row with 7 assists, that is impressive.

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    • #267515
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      surve
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      Favors and Cousins may have more upside than Monroe, but Monroe is a safe pick. He is a cant miss prospect. He may turn out to be average or he may be a great one day but he will be a solid player at the very least for a long time in the league.

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  • #267505
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    scoutguru
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    Yea Greg Monroe is one of those guys whenever he decides to come out, he’ll be a top-10 to lottery pick. And with Wright and Freeman coming back, they should be favorites in the big east with syracuse losing guys and West Virginia losing Butler and potentially Ebanks. The nba isn’t going no where, trust, they’ll get this stupid cba thing settled and any prospect should be good for the long run. There’s nothing wrong with staying in school! Shaq stayed a whopping 3 years in school! Lol. Shaq, arguably the greatest big man ever. And as mentioned before, Duncan turned out fine too.

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  • #267506
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    When you’re pride is being crushed, you want to retaliate… Obviously, in Monroe’s state of mind, he wants to return… But in the mindset of other people such as myself, it would be a tough decision NOT to go pro… He has been projected in the Top 10 and he wants to come back? Surely it might come back to haunt him in the end… But I do understand the situation, I would want to come back if we weren’t doing well…(ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR TEAM IS REGARDED AS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY AND CHOKED OUT IN JUST THE FIRST ROUND OF THE TOURNAMENT <ouch!> <make that double ouch!!!.)

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  • #267532
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    kacey
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    Yeah I don’t think this is Monroe’s final decision. But I like Sheltwon’s post. Tim Duncan passed up the NBA year after year. And yes, Hibbert played at G’Town.

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  • #267531
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    I like Greg Monroe whom I think will become a solid player at the next level. But every time I see him play he reminds me of Josh McRoberts, who had the same reputation at Duke. Both guys are very talented but they look to pass almost as often as they look to score. I wouldn’t describe that as being soft, it’s just in their DNA.

    Unfortunately, both of them are highly criticized for not being more aggressive on offense. I personally like their team first attitude because most guys don’t care about anything other than scoring. Monroe will have a much better professional career than McRoberts because if and when he decides to shoot, he’s almost unstoppable.

    And I agree with those guys above who said there’s no advantage to staying at Georgetown another year unless he loves the college experience. If going to school and earning a degree is his number one priority, then it makes sense. He’s going to be rich any way you look at it.

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  • #267537
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    1. Dukes bigmen aren’t good, they are decent at best. Gavin Edwards would be the best one there if he would have gone to Duke instead of UConn. Yancy Gates is a 2nd rounder AT BEST. Luke Harangody is weak defensively. Hamady N’diaye and Samardo Samuels are the only good defensive bigmen in that conference.. But if you’re going to show up only when you played Hamady and Samardo and completely disappear when you play vs good teams.. That’s what we call inconsistent. Plus, Rutgers isn’t well coached so they don’t know how to play Greg Monroe.. I just don’t see all that potential that other people see in him. Draft Bust Alert.

    We all know big men always thrash on duke because duke’s lack of GOOD bigmen. But when he played a good team in syracuse, where was Greg Monroe? 8pts? 4rebs?

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  • #267541
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    lalaila
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    actually for me it looks like pretty smart to stay for Monroe…it seems this year is just not the year he should declare…last year there was Favors-like super young strong freshmen who had some huge games against big guys and if his 12/63 wasn’t that good but he had potential..now he isn’t the potential guy he is freshman anymore he isn’t athletic to suprise people in combine BUT he isn’t that dominant guy already who shows what you will get, he isn’t nationa; player of the year or something(for example we are saying he could improve alot but he isn’t potential guy; or he is safe pick but he is still very inconsistent)
    so if he would back for another year he could show that he is really safe pick that he is really dominant big in college level and you just can’t pass on him if you need a big and could good chances to go to Final Four imo.and all in all he is very young sophmore he will be 20yrs old for all next season.

    so if don’t need money that much he could stay i think.

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  • #267543
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    M-DYMES
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    Sheltwon…you do understand lockout is possible? Players who would be drafted gotta go this season or possibly wait 2 years. Thats 2 years worth of salary you lose and 2 years older your are as a prospect.

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  • #267544
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    M-DYMES
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    I know Georgetown lost, but Monroe had a pretty respectable game…

    19 pts 13 rebs 6 asts

    Very solid for a big man in a game where they were playing catchup.

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  • #267552
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    I like Monroe. He’s versatile enough to play PF or C, he has some decent post skills with his left hand, and he’s honestly bout as good a passer asyou’ll find. He’s not very athletic and he’s not quick-footed, but he’s very skilled and can average 15 pts, 8 boards, and 3 assists a game in the NBA. I’d take him, he has little downside.

    Rtbt, I see what your saying about him and McRoberts. The difference is McRoberts wasn’t aggressive because he played nervous. Monroe is a great passer naturally. And for as unaggressive as Monroe is, McRoberts was very timid out there much more often. He was also less consistent. Monroe shows sparks of a mean streak more than I can EVER in life remember McRoberts showing. The more disappointing thing about McRoberts though, is that he was a good deal more physically gifted than Monroe. McRoberts has been a huge disappointment to say the least IMO, he has the ability to be a relatively solid starter for a team with his skills, size and athletic ability.

    And for whoever brought up that game against Syracuse were he got 8 pts and 4 boards, Syracuse runs a 2-3 zone, which almost eliminates big men from games. I watched that game, G’town didn’t adjust to the D in that matchup and Monroe was pretty ineffective and the G’Town guards just took a bunch of ill-advised jump shots.

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