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  • #25242
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    Da1pot
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    I remember he said last season that he was going to stay for another year and then he changed his mind…. He is having a somewhat solid rookie campaign, but he is truly someone who should have stayed in school not because he wasn’t necessarily NBA-ready, but because he could have accomplished so much from a personal standpoint and improved his stock a little bit and instead declare for this years draft. 

    Reasons he should have stayed:

    1. Georgetown would be a legit National title contender with him, Freeman, Wright and Jason Clark. He would be cemented as one of Georgetown’s great players with Mourning, Ewing, Mutombo and Iverson.

    2. His stock would improve from not only being on a better team than last season and being a better even more NBA- player, but he would certainly be drafted higher in what is a very weak draft class IMO, probably moving to top five instead of seventh overall.

    3. I think Monroe would have had a GREAT shot to go number one overall in this years draft in a draft with a lot of uncertainty, but that just my opinion……. Any thoughts????

    Maybe moving up a few spots isn’t that big of a difference but do you think he could have benefited by staying another season?????

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  • #479668
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    Aside from Sullinger, Monroe would have been the most dominant force in college ball this year.

    I think he is on the right team now being with Detroit, because once they clean house he will have the chance to be the face of the franchise.

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  • #479672
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    He’s actually getting PT lately. He also in the top 5 for the Rookie rankings on espn

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  • #479677
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     Yeah I know he’s top five in rookie rankings and that he’s getting pt right now, but his stats still aren’t all that great, 6 and 6 in 23 mpg…….

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  • #479680
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    True, I seen him play and I think he’s gonna be great this second half. He’s a great defensive player. He can defend all positions.

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  • #479681
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     He’s really getting his confidence back together. He’s showing if nothing else, that he is a capable rebounder at the NBA level. His passing has been decently translatable as well. Nice that they’re not expecting a franchise savior out of Monroe, they’re just bringing him along. If they could do some smart business decisions , signings, trades, and drafts, He, White, and Daye seem like they could be the start of a new team. Would really like them to get some tough guys and get back to winning again. Seeing all of these other teams of years past getting back to winning such as the Lakers, Bulls, Celtics, Knicks makes me want to see the Pacers get back to the days of the Bad Boys.

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  • #479682
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    Its a known fact that PFs/Cs take longer to develop than other positions. Andrew Bogut was looking like a bust his rookie year, and hes now finding his strides. Darko is beginning to salvage his career. I can see Monroe eventually developing into a 15PPG 10RPG PowerForward.

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  • #479692
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    So because you are a Georgetown fan, you want to ignore that Monroe is doing well right now and make the claim that he should have returned to school for completely selfish reasons that have nothing to do with him becoming a better basketball player. Wonderful.

    Monroe has come on as a starter this month, and has been a top three or four rookie. He isn’t Griffin or Wall, but no other rookie has been consistently good this month. The Pistons are a better team because of how he is playing right now. The guy is learning and developing at a great rate. Where he is now is so far ahead of where he started the year. He is making the rotations on defense, stepping out and showing on pick-and-rolls, becoming a great screener, and working to earn his keep by offensive rebounding. He would have lost that year of development by returning for another year, and that far outweighs those three reasons you brought up for why he should have stayed. The only reason for him to stay was if he just wanted to put off the pressure and work of being a professional another year. It wouldn’t have been wrong for him to do so, just like with Andrew Luck, but he wouldn’t be better for it.

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  • #479698
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     I agree with all of your points, but I’m just pondering what would have happened had he returned to school…… He is playing good as of late and he will be a very good pro. Was Blake Griffin not smart by returning to school because he had a shot to A. move from the lotto pick to  the top pick overall, B. contend for a national title c. Make himself better as a player and a prospect- which he obviously ended up doing?? 

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  • #479706
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    in the dark abyss of the detroit pistons, Monroe is the only bright spot

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  • #479725
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    Never return to school to chase a title, it rarely works out. Besides if you are a sure bet to be a top 15 pick ready or not you better come out. He is getting most of his points on cuts and garbage work. He is still 20,and he hasn’t really developed his "man strenght" yet. He has time and space to grow on a bad team searching for folks who can and will fill roles.

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  • #479783
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     I’ve been following Monroe all season and althougth I don’t really see stardom for him soon, from what I’ve seen so far, i’d expect a Roy Hibbert type progression. This isn’t a Georgetown comparison, nor a game comparison, but as far as prodution and playing time goes for a promising young player on a rebuilding team goes I think he’ll be a 12-15 ppg 8-9 rpg block and a half guy in two or three years.

     

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  • #479786
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    iguapops420
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     Doubt he’ll ever be a black and half kind of guy. Doesn’t have the length, explosion, or natural instincts. Defensively think more along the lines of Lamar Odom.

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  • #479790
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     I’ll give you that, he really isn’t much of a shot blocker.  I don’t really think it’s a thing of athleticism, though, just a mindset….good point, though

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  • #479820
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    "True, I seen him play and I think he’s gonna be great this second half. He’s a great defensive player. He can defend all positions."

    Is this accurate?!

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  • #479821
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    Maybe he meant defend both post positions.

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  • #479835
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    His athleticism has always been suspect, so he probably did mean both post positions. Or maybe he’s thinking of somebody else.

    Or maybe he really can defend all positions. I haven’t watched too many Pistons games, but maybe he’s like Kenyon Martin (who isn’t great at defending point guards but he does sometimes).

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  • #480247
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    Monroe’s athleticism has been questioned by people who only use jumping as a way of measuring athleticism. He has done rather well guarding Dwight Howard and Amare Stoudemire this year because he is long, has quick hands, and moves his feet. The growth of Monroe along with the decision to move McGrady to the point is the big reason why Detroit is playing better ball of late. If nothing else, the play of Stuckey at the two and McGrady at the point shows the obvious big picture need for the Pistons to get a point guard. In the past two drafts, they have come away with two 6’10” players (Monroe and Jerebko) who understand how to play on both ends. Both are smart and unselfish, it is hard to be overly critical of that. Sacramento has to live with the fact that they don’t know whether they are going to get an All-Star or a head case on any given night with Cousins. The hope is that down the line he will grow up and just be that dominant All-Star he flashes the potential of being, but it has to be easier on the coaches, teammates, and organization to have a guy like Monroe. He really deserves a ton of credit for adapting to the role of a fifth option big man. He still has the skills, but with the team the Pistons have now, he is most valuable as a screener and rebounder. The skills are still there, and they will come out when his role in the offense grows, but for the time being he is showing more diversity as a player. I think as he grows into a 30-35 minute per game player, his numbers will put him into a borderline All-Star category. He has never been a guy who plays to get numbers, so but that is a good thing. The fact that he is as talented as he is and will be on the floor will guarantee him of quality numbers, but it really depends on who they get to be the point, the team’s style of play, and a million other things.

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  • #481443
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     HAHA…. I just realized I put Pacers bad boys LMAO. Pistons, we all knew what I meant. Monroe absolutely CAN NOT guard all positions. multiple positions is even questionable as he doesn’t exactly have the size and strength to truely defend the 5 adequately, and doesn’t have the footspeed/lateral quickness to guard the perimeter. Don’t confuse he and Kenyon Martin. Martin is a guy who can guard the 4 thru 2 decently. He has perimeter defense instincts naturally not to mention guard like lateral quickness(in his athletic prime). If you’re looking for a Kenyon Martin type defensively you’d get more like Pat Patterson. Again, I say think Lamar Odom defensively at best. More than likely though he’s more Andray Blatche defensively though as I think even Odom may be a  little too fluid for comparison.

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  • #481444
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     Disagree BothTeams, not sure Monroe has the demeanor or fire to an All-Star. I think his game blends best as a complimentary big who just sets screens, makes open passes, and plays D/rebound. He is going to a good defender against a certain type of player who has no real counter moves. Not to mention he’s not really even strong enough to guard 4’s yet ( Derrick Caracter is even too much for him to handle). I like Monroe, but I think he’s the type of player who is going to need to have smaller a responsibility level to really excel. That is if he’s really the team player that I think he is and he wants to win as apposed to putting up numbers. He’s more Vlade than Pau IMO. If that comparison makes any sense. Similar players, different responsibility levels.

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