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Granger or Gay?

I was reading an article on ESPN and wondered, who's the better player between the two?

Both are players that are not exactly superstars. They both have the ability to score from nearly anywhere, are decent rebounders, and are athletic. Who is the better player right now?


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o wait you mean they arent

o wait you mean they arent the same guy Like Humpty Hump and Shock G??

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I would say Gay. I have just

I would say Gay. I have just never been a big fan of Granger. I think both are solid number two guys that should not be considered #1 guys, but both of them are very solid and deep teams so they aren't really asked to be THE guy. I really think they are about even though

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Granger isn't close to Gay as

Granger isn't close to Gay as an athlete. Let's make that clear now. Granger is a good athlete. Gay is an elite athlete.

Gay has more ability. He has the "look" of a superstar, but he just can't seem to put it together for some reason.

I'd take Granger. Reason being is because he plays better without the ball in his hands and he can be the first, second or even third guy on a playoff team. The Pacers never thought Granger was a superstar and he isn't being paid like one. Memphis thinks Gay is a superstar and is paying him like one.

Gay more ability... Granger the better player.

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GAY IMO

Granger has been playing great for about 5 years now. I see marginal improvement.

Gay, on the other hand, has gone strides! If you all remember, he was just an athletic wingman when he came into the league. He's become the more complete player.

Don't get me wrong. I love Granger's game. I just don't think he's able to take that extra step to superstardom.

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I really don't know what

I really don't know what happened to Granger. He scored 25 pts a game a few seasons ago and that number has been decreasing since. His shot% has also decreased over the last few years, he shot 41% this season.

Gay regressed a little with his long range shot since last season, but other than that has had a solid year.

Taking salary into account this would be a harder choice, but if they made the same money I take Gay.

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Milotic- I don't agree. He

Milotic- I don't agree. He had a superb season a few years ago and his numbers have been down ever since. I think Gay has more overall talent and athleticsm and I still he think has room to grow. I feel Granger has peaked and is probably a 19-21 ppg player at best until he starts to decline.

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i don't think you understood.

I picked Gay stating that Granger hasn't improved much if at all...

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Both guys seem to be good

Both guys seem to be good hearted players..That are well like by their teammates and coaches..

But i think Gay still have more room for improvement..His shot selection has gotten better..Showing more leadership by getting on team mates when they miss defensive assignments...But i Granger is as good as he's going to get..He hangs aout on the perimeter too much,he's an average rebounder and has no post game...If you remember Rudy started his career playing shooting guard..I think right on beats Granger on almost everything rebounding,shot blocking and athleticism..And since he went to play with TEAM USA he's become a slightly better defender...That can thrive in both the halfcourt and transition...

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I still think that Rudy Gay's

I still think that Rudy Gay's shoulder is bothering him a bit. Earlier in the year at least his free throw shooting was off. It just didn't look fluid.

Rudy has some great games, but also some where he shoots poorly (well, Durant, Kobe, and Carmelo have those kinds of games too). He had a very good year this year. He is one of the few guys who can get a shot off on anyone.

He's a great athlete, a great finisher, a good scorer, and a good shooter. He reminds me of Dominique Wilkins as far as his dunking/scoring/shooting skill set goes.

He's not a bad go-to guy, just not at Kobe's level. I am really, really excited about him next year. I think he can be an all-star next year. He came back from injury and rust this year and he and Z Bo haven't had too much time to gel the past year or so. I think next year will be fun, since Conley is getting better too.

If Rudy plays at a high level then I can see us coming back to win the first round against the Clippers. You get home court so Game 7 is at home. I think we have a decent shot at winning game 6. Z Bo is showing some life and Marc Gasol looked good. If Rudy stays focused and Conley or OJ start hitting shots from outside we could be looking at a Game 7 on Sunday back at the FedEx Forum.

... Rudy needs to take the next step if he wants to be an all-star and if we want to have a team that can reach the Finals. He's a good option along with Z Bo, Conley, and Gasol. I think Z Bo played his best ever last year, and is warming back up now. If our team takes the next step it will be up to the younger guys like Gasol, Conley, OJ if he comes back, and especially Rudy.

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Rudy Gay.

Rudy Gay.

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Gay and not that close

The only thing really that close is scoring and offense. They are pretty similar scoring wise and will both give you about 20ppg. The difference is defense. Rudy Gay is a superb athlete, thus making him a pretty good defender. he can get blocks and steals and is pretty lethal on the fast break. Granger is too one-dimensional.

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Danny Grangers best season

Danny Grangers best season was better than Gays best season and Granger was an all-star. That being said from today on I would take Gay

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DurantsWingspan, athletisism

DurantsWingspan, athletisism doesn't make a good defender. Granger plays very good on ball defense and he doesn't fall asleep on off ball defense like Gay does, Granger is the superior defensive player. That being said I still take Gay because he can score from about anywhere on about anyone.

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Rudy Rudy Rudy! They are

Rudy Rudy Rudy!

They are pretty much even defensively but on offense Gay can score on you in more of a variety of ways. Granger may be the better shooter but Gay is the better player.

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Rudy Gay, he's 4 years

Rudy Gay, he's 4 years younger and he gets to the hoop. Granger is supposed to be this great shooter, but he's only shooting 41% from the floor.

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I don't think he is a better defender

I dont think Rudy falls asleep off ball. In fact, he is a way better defender off ball which is why he gets way more steals because he plays the passing lanes very well and starts off the fast break. How do you figure that Granger is a better on ball defender than Gay? Because everytime I watch I see Gay being the superior defender. I see Gay stay with his man more, force harder shots than Granger, and not let him get by him on ball. And off ball I don't even think its that close. Maybe they are equal on ball, but I think Gay is a lot better off ball which is why he gets way more steals and blocks than Granger.

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Rudy Gay, he brings defence

Rudy Gay, he brings defence and athletism that Granger doesnt. Granger is pretty one dimentional.

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I'm going to refer on Coach K

I'm going to refer on Coach K on this one. Gay recieved 6 man minutes....Granger mop up minutes. Athleticism seperates them right now.

http://turkey2010.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/10/fwcm/team/p/eid/4728/orderby//ot//rid//sid/4728/tid/379/tid2//profile.html

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LMAO @ the guys bragging

LMAO @ the guys bragging about Rudy's ''defense''.....While His defense has picked up,it still needs alot of improvement...

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Does anybody here think that

Does anybody here think that Granger is soft?

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"I've never been a big Gay guy"

but I would take almost anyone over Granger. A chucker who doesn't effect the game unless he is hitting

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"I've never been a big Gay

"I've never been a big Gay guy"

Lol

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Yeah

I think Granger is a little soft. And @Rudeboy I am not bragging about Rudys defense, I am just saying it is a tad bitter than Grangers. Neither really try that hard or play good defense but Rudys athleticism atleast allows him to get a few steals and blocks to start a fast break here and there. Granger is really giving you nothing on defense and plus I think he is a little bit soft.

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it was a joke..becuz i

it was a joke..becuz i remember rudy trailing guys guys when he use to play defense..but going to play 4 team usa helped him alot....rudy has the talent to be a top 15 player..i'm not sure i can say that about granger...but granger turned into a much better pro then i ever thought..i figured he would be a nice swing guy coming off the bench...

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Haven't seen enough of

Haven't seen enough of Granger, but Rudy Gay is horrible. One of the worst contracts in the NBA. I don't thinjk your team can win with him in the starting lineup.

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Rick Majerus

Rick Majerus isn't a big Gay guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RXaERVhNuU

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@RUDEBOY__ "Rudy has the

@RUDEBOY__

"Rudy has the talent to be a top 15 player"

People have been saying that since he was at UCONN. Problem is, he can't put it all together.

@Y2G

Granger isn't shooting a great overall percentage from the floor, but let's not ignore the fact he's shooting 38% from three-point and 87% from the line. He's not an amazing shooter, but he's a better shooter than Gay.

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And Granger isn't a tough guy, but he's definitely not soft. He plays hurt. He's doesn't back down from a physical game. He's a good defender when he locks in and he'll compete. I don't see how anyone could give him the soft tag.

I don't see how he's one dimensional either. He plays both forward positions. He can get his own shot off of the dribble or he can play off of the ball, unlike Gay. Granger can also defend both forward positions, depending on who's playing the four. His defense has slipped since his early years, but Gay has never played any defense to slip.

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I guess we dont have too many

I guess we dont have too many Digital Underground fans here????

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@wizardOfOz, rudy gay is not

@wizardOfOz, rudy gay is not horrible

his contract is a bit over-aggressive but calling him horrible is a joke, horrible is for guys like juwan howard

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