Dieng is a great fit for the Thunder and I think they should package the 29th and the 32nd picks to get around 20-23 to grab him. Chicago is a good trade partner because all of their role players are free agents and they can add some talent in the positions they need without reching. Ennis with 28th and Crabbe with 32 can help with outside shooting and overall athleticism. Thunder don't have much time for not ready rookies so adding two is not the ideal decision. However Dieng is an immediate backup and a possible starter after 2 years with Perkins out. His ability to defend the pick'n'roll , the post (which should improve with more muscle) , rebounding ability and his shot-blocking insticts make him playable from Day 1. He is a good finisher unlike Perkins and more importantly he is a very nice playmaker from the High Post ala Collison se he doesn't make bonehead plays . Last year he has shown a very nice mid-range jumper from the elbows so he can build on that. Low risk/ low reward pick but it might be exactly what the Thunder need with these talented but risky players they've got in Jones and Lamb , not to mention former Thunder players like Mullens.
Chad Fords most recent mock has the Thunder selecting Dieng with the 12th pick. I dont think he would be there at Chicago's pick but it is a possibility they reach for him at 12.
I thought about it too but 12 is a biiig rech and Dieng is not a sexy pick so after workouts many others like Adetokoubo,Franklin,Mitchell,Adams and Glen Rice Jr (all players more appealing and with more potential than Dieng) might surpass him and make him available. A post draft-selection trade could also work involving some of the Thunder young players and the picks.
Dieng won't be there in the 20s. If the Thunder want him they are going to have to select him at 12 which isn't really a reach if they believe he is their guy.
I still believe the Thunder are going to make a significant move involving Perkins and their picks. 12th, 29th, and 32nd picks are nice sweeteners for any trade.
Big guy. Seems smart with a good basketball IQ. Can defend, block and alter shots. Also shows
decent range on his shot and some nice passing skills.
He looks like he should be their guy. Dieng, Ibaka, and Collison would be a solid 3 big man rotation. Lots of length,
toughness and defense. Each guy can put up a few points too.
May be a bit of a reach but a great pick.
In the second round they can go with a guard/wing who falls. Maybe Tim Hardaway Jr.
If they can add a very late second round pick they need to look at Peyton Siva as a prototype backup
point guard. Then they can go small with Siva at point with Westbrook or Reggie at the 2.
Dieng can patrol the paint, anchor the D, and also pass and put points on the board. What more do you want?
A potential Durant, Ibaka, and Dieng would be freakishly long. Swat City too.
I would be so pissed if they took Dieng at 12. That's basically just having Perkins at Center all over again. A Defensive center who can't score.
Dieng and Tim Hardaway Jr would be a GREAT draft for the Thunder. Then take the best player with defense at 32.
Hardaway could give them some of what Harden gave them.
Perkins' problem is that he is a defensive center who can't defend. He is a big man who can't rebound. K Perk doesn't really block many shots. He is a good 8th or 9th man, not a guy that makes $8 million a year.
Dieng is taller already. A better shot blocker. A guy who can intimidate and alter shots. Plus, Dieng is a better shooter and passer RIGHT NOW. He can also get up to dunk the ball. And, he won't make anywhere near $8 million next year.
He might not be Kevin McHale on the low blocks, but he and Ibaka should be able to patrol the paint and shut down inside scorers. Dieng can also play with either Ibaka or Nick Collison.
I can see the Thunder using Dieng against guys like Marc Gasol, Tim Duncan, and even the Chris Bosh and Brook Lopez type guys.
With a Thunder squad at full strength they would have Westbrook, Kevin Martin (if they resign him), Durant, Ibaka, and Dieng. Dieng wouldn't be a bad fifth option out there.
Those five guys along with Reggie Jackson as your sixth man, Thabo as a defensive wing, and Nick Collison as a reserve big man would be a good 8 man rotation. Then they still have Jeremy Lamb and Perry Jones -- two young guys with upside. Then whatever they can get for Kendrick Perkins (if anything). If I were the Thunder I would try to trade him and the 32nd pick to the Kings for Chuck Hayes. Hayes is tough and strong and would give them a lot of what K Perk does but at a cheaper price. The Kings might do this just to get a guy to tutor DeMarcus Cousins and teach him how to be tough without being a loose cannon. Then the Kings can use the 32nd pick on a solid role player (hopefully).
Chuck Hayes would be an ideal 11th man for the Thunder. He can play power forward but also some 5. The arrival of Dieng and Chuck Hayes could also make Hasheem Thabeet expendable if they want to shop him, too. They might be able to package Thabeet and the 29th pick to move up in the draft some. That could work too.
The Thunder are deep and young. They look promising as a legit title contender of course but they need to do some tweaking.
I understand your theory, get a big defensive center who can actually defend. I'm really bitter about the Jeff Green for Perkins trade still.
However, with the Thunder being cash strapped, they need a Center who is ready to play next season, and play significant minutes. Dieng is really skinny right now. I don't think he can bang with Gasol, Howard, Duncan, Lopez, etc. next season night in and night out. He isn't a starting calibur Center out of the gates to me, and is a big reach at 12 to me.
I would rather the Thunder draft the best player available, and use as bait for a proven Center, I'll just use Gortat as an example. He is big, strong, and has some experience and is ready to contribute the first day he would step on the floor for the Thunder.
The Thunder just don't have the luxury to wait around for someone to develop like a larger market team can.
I really like you call on Chuck Hayes too. Gritty big man who can pass the ball out of the low post and plays hard nose defense. But like you said ideal 11th man.
the only issue I have with Dieng is that he can't score downlow which is what they have been missing from the start. I mean if Ibaka could post than I say go for it but he can't which makes this a big issue a jump shooting team typically can't win a chamipionship unless you have a post player, think about it. Shoot Lebron can post for all those saying that Miami didn't have one
Completely agree with this. Dieng's style is very similar to Ibaka's. Both great shotblockers, but probably not great one on one defenders. Neither can post up but have decent midrange shots. That picks looks a bit redundant to me.
If the Thunder want to WIN a championship and not just "contend" they need a veteran center who can score and defend. The defense is needed to keep their level of play on that end of the floor at the level it is at. They need a center who can score to punish teams that try to play small.
They should offer Phoenix Perkins and the 12th overal pick for Gortat. This would put the team on another level with a healthy Westbrook again next year.
Perkins + picks in a trade for Varejao? I remember this being discussed on the BS Report a long while back like when Varejao was actually healthy, which is never a guarantee. Not sure if OKC would roll the dice on his health now and if CLE would take back Perkins just to get more picks.