Good Utah-Milwaukee trade?
So the Jazz need a pg of the future and has a logjam of Bigs, while the Bucks seem not sure of keeping Jennings long term. Do you guys think Jennings will be a good fit with Utah going forward? He is more a scoring pg, but I think that is what this Jazz team needs. They have a lot of good prospects, but none seems to be that big time scorer. I think they need a pg like Jennings. Also with their cap space next year, Utah isnt a prime destination for FA so a trade is the only way to get a big time player. Neither of their picks this draft will be high enough to draft an elite pg either, if there is one in this draft.The Bucks, I dont think they have any idea on what they want to do, but 2 things are for sure, the small backcourt of Jennings and Ellis cannot continue. I also think Milwaukee will be intrigued with adding a low post scorer like Jefferson or Milsap.
Heres my idea:
Jazz gets: Jennings, Dunleavy,Gooden, Udrih (7 mill expiring)
Bucks get: Millsap, Mo Williams, Burks, Watson
Jazz- Get their pg of the future. Hes a FA after this year, but they have a much better shot at resigning him as oppose to signing him outright. Gooden is an important piece as well. If Utah loses both Jefferson and Milsap next season, theyll still need a big off the bench. Gooden can back up both the 4 and the 5 effectively. Dunleavy is a solid sf who will fit in Utah. Udrih's contract expires, but I can see him resigning for much much less and will be a solid back up pg. Add to this, 2 draft picks where Utah can draft solid wings like Andre Roberson and CJ Wilcox.
Bench: Udrih-Bell-Marv. Williams-Gooden-Kanter
Bucks- Get a low post scorer in Milsap. Ilyasova can slide to the 3 and Mo Williams returns to Milwaukee to run the point for the year and may be open to resigning there. Utah gets a sg prospect in Burks who I like much, but isnt working out in Utah. Hes a big sg who can replace Ellis once he leaves Milwaukee.
Starters: Mo. Williams-Ellis-Ilyasova-Milsap-Dalembert
Bench: Watson-Burks-Harris/Mbah a Moute- Sanders/Henson/Udoh
Looking at the trade now, it seems as if Utah is giving up a lot, but this is the cost of enticing the Bucks to strike this deal. Esp if you believe Jennings is the pg they need.
As I think of it, I really do like Burks a lot. Utah may be able to get Milwaukee to bite offering just Mo Williams and Milsap for Jennings, Gooden, and Udrih. Maybe throw in one of the 1st rounders they have this year?
No, Millsap will leave and Mo Williams will too; you must be banking in ale Burcs being a very good player for Milwaukee.
Off the first trade:
Bucks seem reluctant to commit to Jennings. I think hes already a goner. In this scenerio, even if Williams and Milsap leaves, they have a decent prospect in Burks. And I dont think both players a definately goners. I can see Williams sticking around. Milsap, may be based on circumstances. I think he wants to start, which he will continue to in Milwaukee. Only other decent team that will have the cap space and a starting position open will be the Pacers that comes to mind. West has 10 mill coming off the books after the season.
My main question is how do you think Jennings will fair in Utah? Do you think he will be a good fit?
I'm not sure how he would fit in Utah, he is a scorer at heart so he's not going to improve the players around him, but his defense and impact will be better than Mo; he really needs to improve his shot selection though, he's shooting 40% again this year. If he I sold on a max contract Utah may not be able to afford him with Derrick favors and Gordon Hayward rookie contract to expire next year
For Utah id think you would need to take Burks out of the deal.
I realized that...but then again, adding Burks will almost make Milwaukee have to accept such a deal. Again, I like Burks a lot, but you have to give to get. I think a pg of Jenning's skills is needed in Utah and they may need to give more to entice the Bucks to send him to Utah. Also keep in mind, Utah has two picks this draft (Warrior's is it #8 or lower), that should both fall in the teens. They can get a decent wing to replace Burks. I like CJ Wilcox, who should be there when both picks comes up.
If they get rid of Brandon Jennings ,the bucks should try to draft Marcus Smart.Smart can make up for his lack of basically every skill in the game besides scoring .He will easily translate to wins also
How does Smart's game translate to the NBA? I havent seen him play and have read mixed reviews. Can he run the pg spot in the NBA? Assuming this fictional deal did happen, can he and Burks play together in the backcourt? I think Bucks will need to draft a pg of the future, whether or not Williams was to re-sign with them. Im thinking MCW or Burks will compliment Burks.
Also keep in mind, Smart is mocked to be a top 6-8 draft pick. If Bucks keep Jennings, they will need to target a big 2g like CJ Wilcox to play alongside him.
I like the idea just not the participants. Al should and would be traded before Milsap. Milsap epitomizes Jazz basketball and is a versatile hardworking forward who has been with the organization longer and on top of that the Bucks just resigned Ersan and have Tobias Harris and a slew of other bigs like Udoh and Henson who are better at PF and none of them can score well in the post.
Jennings and Ellis are a terrible fit in the same backcourt but Ellis can play PG fine he would probably average around 8 apg if given full time ball handling duties. The Bucks need to trade Jennings for a post scorer and a young wing.
Utah needs to trade Big Al for a PG.
So a trade sending Al Jefferson and Alec Burcs to Milwaukee for Brandon Jennings, Drew Gooden, and Doron Lamb might be just wat the Dr ordered for both teams.
Utah starts Jennings, Hayward, Williams, Milsap, Favors with Mo Wil, Lamb, Gooden and Kanter off the bench. Is a potent lineup for now and the future. Jennings get to mature with elite big men prospects in Favors and Kanter with Hayward too.
The Bucks would hand the keys to Monta and start Ellis, Burcs, Harris, Ersan, and Big Al. With Henson and Sanders are also both great natural compliments to Big Al as they're long quick and athletic. They could go big with Al at PF and Sanders at C.
I do not disagree as either Jefferson or Milsap may be traded. I read another post on here stating that while the Jazz may prefer Milsap, Jefferson helps out the Jazz this year as the offense revolves around him. I agreed with that post. For now, a Jefferson/Favors front court is better than a Favors/Milsap front court as Kanter is better suited coming off the bench. I rather this approach as I believe that another playoff run experience is beneficial to this young team. This time around, Kanter hopefully will raise his game during the playoffs like Favors did last year, leading to next years front court of Favors and Kanter. Again, I believe Milsap will relish the chance to start somewhere else, where a team like Philly, Bucks, Pacers may be interested in him to start. Either way, the Jazz has equally amount of a chance to screw up this opportunity to build a complete team. I hope they make it work by making the right personel decisions.
terrible trade for the Bucks
It's funny you say that. because I thought it was a bad trade for the Jazz.
I know this isn't the popular opinion around most of the NBA, but everything that they've said in Milwaukee is that Jennings can sign with whatever team he wants, but Milwaukee will match the offer.
Personally, having watched all of the Bucks games the past two seasons, I love the way that Jennings and Ellis play off of each other. Having said that, if I'm Milwaukee and I can get a SG in the mold of Arron Afflalo (not necessarily him, but somebody that can defend and spot up) and a 1st round pick for Monta Ellis, that is more of what I would expect Milwaukee to do.
Maybe if Milwaukee decides that Scott Skiles isn't their guy, they'll end up shuffling the deck more, but I think Skiles is a big fan of Dunleavy and Jennings and don't think it's very likely that either one of them is moved unless Skiles decides to give Tobias Harris more playing time, which from what he's said, doesn't sound very likely.