Gobert could be special. Where does he go?

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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 4:34pm #49510

arambone
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He’s not going to fit your prototype of the ideal center, and he is still 2-3 years away from his pre-peak days, but Gobert could be a killer finesse scorer and shot blocker. Apparently high bbiq as well for passing, cutting, and defensive rotations.
I’d guess 265 will be his prime weight in a few years, but he could be interesting much sooner.
As long as you’re not expecting him to play like Shaq or Dwight defensively, Gobert could be like a better, longer, tougher Nenad Kristic.
Gobert isnt a freak athlete, but he’s a freak and he’s an athlete. Impossible to precisely project skill development in big men, but he shows some touch and polish already. I think he’s smart enough to develop a nice array of rangy moves and counter moves, even if he might not have the quickest instincts and reactions to his defender.
As a Celtics fan, Gobert might be very interesting next to Sullinger. Gobert could even get some time in a power forward role, using his length defensively to partially compensate for his slower feet.
I think he’ll get quicker as he gets stronger, and develop a distinctive and effective game. 18 pts, 10 rebounds, and 3.5 blocks in his prime at 265 lbs.
He could go top 10 or 25th though. I hope Danny rolls the dice at 16 if Adams is gone. Where else would he fit? Sac too high?
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 4:55pm #786182

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His measurables says he could be special, but so was Thabeet coming out of UCONN. He’s so difficult to project due to the fact that he’s an international prospect and also he’s so undeveloped physically as far as NBA ready. I think your projection is too optimistic. At best he could be Tyson Chandler.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 4:55pm #786249

ilike.panochas
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His measurables says he could be special, but so was Thabeet coming out of UCONN. He’s so difficult to project due to the fact that he’s an international prospect and also he’s so undeveloped physically as far as NBA ready. I think your projection is too optimistic. At best he could be Tyson Chandler.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 5:02pm #786184

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I do see what you mean. Maybe he could be more like Nene. With the mysterious, unseen, talent that he has, I expect him to mid to late first round. Boston and Atlanta would both be good spots for him. My bet is Atlanta with Horford moving to the four.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 5:02pm #786251

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I do see what you mean. Maybe he could be more like Nene. With the mysterious, unseen, talent that he has, I expect him to mid to late first round. Boston and Atlanta would both be good spots for him. My bet is Atlanta with Horford moving to the four.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 5:08pm #786192

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I have mixed feelings about him. I used to think of him as a sure lottery pick because he is huge with an insane wingspan, he can move and finish around the tin, and he has a nice feel for the game. But I’ve soured on him. His offensive game is solely limited to shots within a few feet. He is no threat to shoot whatsoever and doesn’t have a post game. Also, he’s weaker than you think, mostly because of his lower body. His agility drills and verticals weren’t good. He gets a lot of offensive rebounds because of his length, but he’s actually not a very good defensive rebounder because he’s not strong enough to box people out.
He is effective in France because he’s just so much bigger and longer than everyone there, but there are a lot of big, physical guys in the NBA. He definitely won’t be ready to contribute to an NBA team for another 2-3 years, but if he can get his lower body stronger and add a little bit of a post game, I think he can make it. He reminds of Tyson Chandler: long, skinny, a defensive force, and great offensive rebounder. I currently have him as the 5th center on my big board behind Noel, Zeller, Len, and Olynyk (I’m not a big Steven Adams fan).
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 5:08pm #786259

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I have mixed feelings about him. I used to think of him as a sure lottery pick because he is huge with an insane wingspan, he can move and finish around the tin, and he has a nice feel for the game. But I’ve soured on him. His offensive game is solely limited to shots within a few feet. He is no threat to shoot whatsoever and doesn’t have a post game. Also, he’s weaker than you think, mostly because of his lower body. His agility drills and verticals weren’t good. He gets a lot of offensive rebounds because of his length, but he’s actually not a very good defensive rebounder because he’s not strong enough to box people out.
He is effective in France because he’s just so much bigger and longer than everyone there, but there are a lot of big, physical guys in the NBA. He definitely won’t be ready to contribute to an NBA team for another 2-3 years, but if he can get his lower body stronger and add a little bit of a post game, I think he can make it. He reminds of Tyson Chandler: long, skinny, a defensive force, and great offensive rebounder. I currently have him as the 5th center on my big board behind Noel, Zeller, Len, and Olynyk (I’m not a big Steven Adams fan).
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 5:11pm #786190

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Yeah, probably not ever as smooth as Kristic with his jumper.
John Henson?
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 5:11pm #786257

arambone
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Yeah, probably not ever as smooth as Kristic with his jumper.
John Henson?
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 5:23pm #786198

Chilbert arenas
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He could also be a huge bust. In 2-3 years I see him either in the D-league or overseas. Even against lesser competition he looks like a slow stiff. He doesn’t have the foot speed for the NBA. I wouldn’t want my team touching him in the first round.
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 7:04pm #786230
  
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  @Chilbert Arenas
  There is this other guy who doesn’t have the foot speed for the NBA, and can barely jump.
  His name is Roy Hibbert
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 7:04pm #786297
  
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  @Chilbert Arenas
  There is this other guy who doesn’t have the foot speed for the NBA, and can barely jump.
  His name is Roy Hibbert
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 5:23pm #786265

Chilbert arenas
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He could also be a huge bust. In 2-3 years I see him either in the D-league or overseas. Even against lesser competition he looks like a slow stiff. He doesn’t have the foot speed for the NBA. I wouldn’t want my team touching him in the first round.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 6:20pm #786214

Chilbert arenas
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I think the sixers have had enough chancing it with centers this year
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 6:20pm #786281

Chilbert arenas
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I think the sixers have had enough chancing it with centers this year
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 6:21pm #786212

Taylor Gang Mike
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Sixers could chance it
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 6:21pm #786279

Taylor Gang Mike
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Sixers could chance it
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 6:29pm #786218

The Scare Crow Rises
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I want to take Shabbazz 11th and trade for the 13th pick that Dallas is shopping around, I’d take Olynyk with that pick and pass on Gobert and Adams. Mohammad can either replace Evan Turner at Sg/Sf or become the 6th man, Olynyk can start at Pf or C one day if we can find an athletic shot blocker to pair up with him…
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 6:29pm #786285

The Scare Crow Rises
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I want to take Shabbazz 11th and trade for the 13th pick that Dallas is shopping around, I’d take Olynyk with that pick and pass on Gobert and Adams. Mohammad can either replace Evan Turner at Sg/Sf or become the 6th man, Olynyk can start at Pf or C one day if we can find an athletic shot blocker to pair up with him…
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 7:45pm #786244

Chilbert arenas
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Hibbert spent 4 years at Georgetown refining his game. He had a well polished post game with soft touch and decent footwork. Gobert hasn’t showed any of that. If you’re comparing Gobert to Hibbert you’re out of your mind.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:16am #786332
  
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  i think Gobert is more skilled than what he is given credit for, he has very good fundamentals for a big, approach the game with good attitude and smart, i can see some true to the Hibbert comparison from the point of view of upside and kind of impact.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:16am #786399
  
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  i think Gobert is more skilled than what he is given credit for, he has very good fundamentals for a big, approach the game with good attitude and smart, i can see some true to the Hibbert comparison from the point of view of upside and kind of impact.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 9:27am #786594
  
  XYRYX
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  I totally agree. If someone with his size and length isn’t considered a center but a PF I’m highly concerned. Maybe he is special and has some skills but he is years away from beeing servicable and from beeing strong and skilled enough to hold his own agains NBA bigmen.
  Right now I see more of a Hassan Whiteside situation than a really bright future. Length alone doesn’t make you a NBA player. He is really thin and will have foul trouble more than anything else. Way to Slow to guard Forwards and to clumsy to defend Centers.
  Still not a bad choice later in the first round but I see players like Adams, Len, Zeller, KO or Plumlee ahead of him and years way more ready.
  Still, what I like most about this draft is the depth at the center position. Some teams should really grab this chance to round out the roster adding a center talent which includes Gobert.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 9:27am #786661
  
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  I totally agree. If someone with his size and length isn’t considered a center but a PF I’m highly concerned. Maybe he is special and has some skills but he is years away from beeing servicable and from beeing strong and skilled enough to hold his own agains NBA bigmen.
  Right now I see more of a Hassan Whiteside situation than a really bright future. Length alone doesn’t make you a NBA player. He is really thin and will have foul trouble more than anything else. Way to Slow to guard Forwards and to clumsy to defend Centers.
  Still not a bad choice later in the first round but I see players like Adams, Len, Zeller, KO or Plumlee ahead of him and years way more ready.
  Still, what I like most about this draft is the depth at the center position. Some teams should really grab this chance to round out the roster adding a center talent which includes Gobert.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 7:45pm #786311

Chilbert arenas
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Hibbert spent 4 years at Georgetown refining his game. He had a well polished post game with soft touch and decent footwork. Gobert hasn’t showed any of that. If you’re comparing Gobert to Hibbert you’re out of your mind.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 7:52pm #786246

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I’m not a Gobert fan. His movements are awkward and look almost painful. Hibbert is not a good comparison. Hibbert displayed great knowledge of the game, good passing, and a good shooting stroke. Gobert hasn’t displayed this polish from what I’ve seen.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/29/2013 - 7:52pm #786313

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I’m not a Gobert fan. His movements are awkward and look almost painful. Hibbert is not a good comparison. Hibbert displayed great knowledge of the game, good passing, and a good shooting stroke. Gobert hasn’t displayed this polish from what I’ve seen.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:01am #786330

weballin.net
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Gobert played for French powerhouse Cholet which sent Beaubois, Seraphin and Gelabale before to the NBA. It’s not Georgetown but it’s not like he was coming from Africa like Thabeet
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:19am #786334
  
  arambone
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  Evan Fournier last year too.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:19am #786401
  
  arambone
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  Evan Fournier last year too.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:20am #786336
  
  arambone
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  Evan Fournier last year too.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:20am #786403
  
  arambone
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  Evan Fournier last year too.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:01am #786397

weballin.net
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Gobert played for French powerhouse Cholet which sent Beaubois, Seraphin and Gelabale before to the NBA. It’s not Georgetown but it’s not like he was coming from Africa like Thabeet
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:29am #786346

CavFanPR
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I personally think Gobert is gonna be a major bust.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:29am #786413

CavFanPR
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I personally think Gobert is gonna be a major bust.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:31am #786340

weballin.net
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didn’t play for Cholet but for Poitiers
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 2:31am #786407

weballin.net
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didn’t play for Cholet but for Poitiers
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 3:47am #786443

IndianaBasketball
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This guy reminds me of Alexis Ajinca
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 3:47am #786376

IndianaBasketball
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This guy reminds me of Alexis Ajinca
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 4:08am #786453

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I think he’s going to have a Manute Bol-esque career or late career Shawn Bradley. He’s not fast, strong or fluid, but he’s so freaking long he’s going block some shots, get dunked on and play a few years doing not much more. His jumper is slow with a hitch in it, and I don’t see him becoming an offensive guy, but I think Gobert’s future is putting up lines like 4ppg 4 rpg 2.8 bpg in 22 mpg.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 4:08am #786386

JoeWolf1
I think he’s going to have a Manute Bol-esque career or late career Shawn Bradley. He’s not fast, strong or fluid, but he’s so freaking long he’s going block some shots, get dunked on and play a few years doing not much more. His jumper is slow with a hitch in it, and I don’t see him becoming an offensive guy, but I think Gobert’s future is putting up lines like 4ppg 4 rpg 2.8 bpg in 22 mpg.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 4:50am #786471
  
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  If so, Melo can already do that for the Celtics, at least in the future. Hmm. And Fab is developing a decent hook as well.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/30/2013 - 4:50am #786404
  
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  If so, Melo can already do that for the Celtics, at least in the future. Hmm. And Fab is developing a decent hook as well.
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Posted on: Wed, 04/01/2015 - 8:36am #973134

arambone2
Why the negs? Chumps.
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- Posted on: Wed, 04/01/2015 - 6:17pm #973375
  
  TheLastWord
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  Ever heard that saying a clock is right twice a day….?
  
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- Posted on: Wed, 04/01/2015 - 6:17pm #973220
  
  TheLastWord
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  Ever heard that saying a clock is right twice a day….?
  
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Posted on: Wed, 04/01/2015 - 8:36am #973289

arambone2
Why the negs? Chumps.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/14/2015 - 7:45am #980034

arambone2
The lesson here is don’t sleep on length. Even if they don’t play for Kentucky. Even if they don’t get coached by Calipari for a year or two in high school.

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Posted on: Thu, 05/14/2015 - 7:45am #979873

arambone2
The lesson here is don’t sleep on length. Even if they don’t play for Kentucky. Even if they don’t get coached by Calipari for a year or two in high school.

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Posted on: Thu, 05/14/2015 - 9:33am #980062

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Hey… it’s Mr. I-discovered-this-guy.
Jokes aside, you should be a little more humble. You only said you liked his game, that doesn’t give you bragging rights in this forum. People will neg you because you’re too insistent on the subject.

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Posted on: Thu, 05/14/2015 - 9:33am #979901

King Calucha
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Hey… it’s Mr. I-discovered-this-guy.
Jokes aside, you should be a little more humble. You only said you liked his game, that doesn’t give you bragging rights in this forum. People will neg you because you’re too insistent on the subject.

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- Posted on: Thu, 05/14/2015 - 9:41am #980068
  
  arambone2
  Yesterday’s legendary measurement section of the Combine was met with a collective yawn for the most part. It makes no sense. Some of these guys are almost as long for the PF position as Gobert was for the center position.
  Like Turner and Wood. Just freaky measurements, with a lot more offensive potential than Gobert showed in France.
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/14/2015 - 9:41am #979907
  
  arambone2
  Yesterday’s legendary measurement section of the Combine was met with a collective yawn for the most part. It makes no sense. Some of these guys are almost as long for the PF position as Gobert was for the center position.
  Like Turner and Wood. Just freaky measurements, with a lot more offensive potential than Gobert showed in France.
  
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