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- Posted on: Thu, 03/06/2014 - 8:59pm #54193
MrManalo43ParticipantGerald Green is a 6’8 210lb Athletic Marvel. he’s got the hops to rival His Airness for godsake… he even shoots the 3 at a 38% clip. he’s able to get to the basket fairly well and he’s a pretty good FT shooter. He’s finally putting it all together and making a strong case for most improved player of 2013-14.
After watching Green light up the Thunder tonight, i kept thinking: "where the hell was all this before?!" and mostly: "if this clinic is what people see in Wiggins as his potential, then sweet baby jesus, he’ll be a damn good player…" Knocking down 3’s, getting to the line, making highlights for days…..
Anyway, my point is, with the Hops that Green already had in HS and more dedication, he coulda made it so Andrew Wiggins was "The Second Coming of Gerald Green". It just makes me sad that Green waited until he was 28 YEARS OLD to put it all together. Wiggins is at the exact same level right now at 19. i mean, they’re pretty much identical right now.
I only hope Wiggins actually cares. he’s got the stuff needed already.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/06/2014 - 9:25pm #877068
drk3351ParticipantThe difference is Wiggins has a better attitude and has always been a much better defender and rebounder than Green.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/06/2014 - 9:25pm #876959
drk3351ParticipantThe difference is Wiggins has a better attitude and has always been a much better defender and rebounder than Green.
0- Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 1:34am #877091
i’m jus so offendedParticipantGerald Green was at first, the classic case of a kid with loads of talent who should have gone to college but by the time he was in the league, his lack of skill became exposed. It didn’t help that the “leaders” in Boston were a disgruntled Paul Pierce and and a young Al Jefferson and Tony Allen. Also, Doc Rivers was not considered an elite coach at the time and while he is now, I think he is more equipped to handle personalities and superstar players than develop talent. Where you have to credit Gerald is his persistance. Most HS kids who fizzle out are never heard from again but he has obviously gotten that jumper on point and finally started to live up to that #1 ranking in HS. I’m very happy for him, especially after limited playing time in Indiana last year. Also credit Jeff Hornacek big time. He has gotten the best out of every player on that roster.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 1:34am #876983
i’m jus so offendedParticipantGerald Green was at first, the classic case of a kid with loads of talent who should have gone to college but by the time he was in the league, his lack of skill became exposed. It didn’t help that the “leaders” in Boston were a disgruntled Paul Pierce and and a young Al Jefferson and Tony Allen. Also, Doc Rivers was not considered an elite coach at the time and while he is now, I think he is more equipped to handle personalities and superstar players than develop talent. Where you have to credit Gerald is his persistance. Most HS kids who fizzle out are never heard from again but he has obviously gotten that jumper on point and finally started to live up to that #1 ranking in HS. I’m very happy for him, especially after limited playing time in Indiana last year. Also credit Jeff Hornacek big time. He has gotten the best out of every player on that roster.
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- Posted on: Thu, 03/06/2014 - 10:02pm #877070
FastAndFuriousParticipantIm going to state what Ive said in the past again and what I will always believe when it comes to the NBA and its players:
Opportunity
Gerald Green bounced around alot and now has exploded with the Suns
Eric Bledsoe was a role player and he too exploded with the Suns
Kendall Marshall was unemployed a few months ago and is now one of the top assist men in the NBA
Grevisis Vasquez was mediocore his first couple season then averged 9apg last year with more opportunity and that number dropped this year with less opportunity
Lance Stephenson was considered a head case his first few years and really didnt produce much,now he’s going to be a paid man this summer.
And there are alot more guys I could name
Yea some of these guys mentioned had game but it still goes to show if given enough minutes and a long enough leash I truely believe ANY player can put up numbers.
Will it be efficent? Maybe not for everyone but I believe that if given opportunity numbers will be put up.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/06/2014 - 10:02pm #876961
FastAndFuriousParticipantIm going to state what Ive said in the past again and what I will always believe when it comes to the NBA and its players:
Opportunity
Gerald Green bounced around alot and now has exploded with the Suns
Eric Bledsoe was a role player and he too exploded with the Suns
Kendall Marshall was unemployed a few months ago and is now one of the top assist men in the NBA
Grevisis Vasquez was mediocore his first couple season then averged 9apg last year with more opportunity and that number dropped this year with less opportunity
Lance Stephenson was considered a head case his first few years and really didnt produce much,now he’s going to be a paid man this summer.
And there are alot more guys I could name
Yea some of these guys mentioned had game but it still goes to show if given enough minutes and a long enough leash I truely believe ANY player can put up numbers.
Will it be efficent? Maybe not for everyone but I believe that if given opportunity numbers will be put up.
0- Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 4:43am #877129
rileymcshea3ParticipantNot so much opportunity. I’d say it’s more of fitting a system and playing the right roles on teams.
coach preference has a lot to do with how a player plays. Of course super stars are gonna find there fit on any team, but if you look at guys with different roles there values go up and down all the time. Remember James Posey on the Celtics with the Big 3? Or Ariza when the Lakers won it? Or just look at the whole Mavericks team that won the finals with guys like J.J. Barea and Tyson Chandler who had there value sky rocket after people knew what there roles were. As you notice coaches of those teams are some of the best in the NBA, and get the most out of the players because you get the the players to do what they are good at, then there for they will be good.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 4:43am #877021
rileymcshea3ParticipantNot so much opportunity. I’d say it’s more of fitting a system and playing the right roles on teams.
coach preference has a lot to do with how a player plays. Of course super stars are gonna find there fit on any team, but if you look at guys with different roles there values go up and down all the time. Remember James Posey on the Celtics with the Big 3? Or Ariza when the Lakers won it? Or just look at the whole Mavericks team that won the finals with guys like J.J. Barea and Tyson Chandler who had there value sky rocket after people knew what there roles were. As you notice coaches of those teams are some of the best in the NBA, and get the most out of the players because you get the the players to do what they are good at, then there for they will be good.
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- Posted on: Thu, 03/06/2014 - 11:31pm #877079
Sewok15ParticipantI think Green might have been a better shooter and a bit stronger than Andrew at the same age….Most other areas I would give to Wiggins but Green really had all the tools to do what he is doing now from the time he got into the league…he just didn’t have the desire or mental capability until he matured.
I was thinking the same thing watching him tonight though as far as a Wiggins comparison.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/06/2014 - 11:31pm #876971
Sewok15ParticipantI think Green might have been a better shooter and a bit stronger than Andrew at the same age….Most other areas I would give to Wiggins but Green really had all the tools to do what he is doing now from the time he got into the league…he just didn’t have the desire or mental capability until he matured.
I was thinking the same thing watching him tonight though as far as a Wiggins comparison.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 12:43am #877083
surveParticipantsimply, Green didnt know how to play. his IQ wasnt up to par with what his previous coaches thought it should be so thats why his playing opportunities were limited. then some places…they needed him to play specific roles. FastandFurious hit it on the head. Its about opportunity…but I will go farther than say its NOT strictly about getting more minutes. Its about learning and having a coaching staff that not only believes in you but knows how to put you in the best situation to maximize your strong suits.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 12:43am #876975
surveParticipantsimply, Green didnt know how to play. his IQ wasnt up to par with what his previous coaches thought it should be so thats why his playing opportunities were limited. then some places…they needed him to play specific roles. FastandFurious hit it on the head. Its about opportunity…but I will go farther than say its NOT strictly about getting more minutes. Its about learning and having a coaching staff that not only believes in you but knows how to put you in the best situation to maximize your strong suits.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 12:47am #877085
Mr. HookShotParticipantProblem for Green was that in the beginning of his career, things didn’t come naturally to him in terms of playing the game. He had the tools, but was unable to use them at the right place and time during a game. Maybe years of experience he has now has resulted in more ‘feeling’ for the game than in the beginning of his career, or maybe that he started to realize this mayor flaw more and started to watch film of himself and players who where able to take the right decisions.
Comparing him to Wiggins however, I think he will do way better: you already see the learning curve of Wiggins during this collegiate year (which is what Green lacked), and I think he will do quite well actually when hitting the ranks of the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 12:47am #876977
Mr. HookShotParticipantProblem for Green was that in the beginning of his career, things didn’t come naturally to him in terms of playing the game. He had the tools, but was unable to use them at the right place and time during a game. Maybe years of experience he has now has resulted in more ‘feeling’ for the game than in the beginning of his career, or maybe that he started to realize this mayor flaw more and started to watch film of himself and players who where able to take the right decisions.
Comparing him to Wiggins however, I think he will do way better: you already see the learning curve of Wiggins during this collegiate year (which is what Green lacked), and I think he will do quite well actually when hitting the ranks of the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 2:06am #877097
Mr. JewboyParticipantWhile they are very alike athletically, I don’t think Wiggins right now is the exact same level as Gerald Green is right now. You’re totally underestimating Green’s shooting ability, I mean he’s one heck of a shooter and always has been which seperates them, whereas I think Wiggins is much more agressive and a better slahser.
I really don’t think Wiggins can drop 41 points on OKC right now.
Don’t forget Green was also thought of very highly and I think he was #1 high school prospect of his year
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 2:06am #876989
Mr. JewboyParticipantWhile they are very alike athletically, I don’t think Wiggins right now is the exact same level as Gerald Green is right now. You’re totally underestimating Green’s shooting ability, I mean he’s one heck of a shooter and always has been which seperates them, whereas I think Wiggins is much more agressive and a better slahser.
I really don’t think Wiggins can drop 41 points on OKC right now.
Don’t forget Green was also thought of very highly and I think he was #1 high school prospect of his year
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 2:11am #877099
Lotto StudParticipantFrom a shooting standpoint I knew what he was capable of early on from the Mickey D’s game. Dude just flat out lit it up.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 2:11am #876991
Lotto StudParticipantFrom a shooting standpoint I knew what he was capable of early on from the Mickey D’s game. Dude just flat out lit it up.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 4:05am #877119
IndianaBasketballParticipantI’m happy for Green, but it sucks to see him having this type of season when he didn’t do ish last season for the Pacers and he was given the opportunity.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 4:05am #877011
IndianaBasketballParticipantI’m happy for Green, but it sucks to see him having this type of season when he didn’t do ish last season for the Pacers and he was given the opportunity.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 4:21am #877121
TRACYSPOONParticipantGreen, did get an opportunity to play for the pacers last year and did produce in some games. However, he didn’t get the minutes with the pacers, like he’s getting with the suns, and that makes a tremendous difference!!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 4:21am #877013
TRACYSPOONParticipantGreen, did get an opportunity to play for the pacers last year and did produce in some games. However, he didn’t get the minutes with the pacers, like he’s getting with the suns, and that makes a tremendous difference!!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 6:51am #877059
Memphis MadnessParticipantMaybe this Suns team is for real.
People were expecting them to tail off.
Me and other Grizzlies fans hope they falter down the stretch.
But if they can beat OKC they can beat anybody.
The Suns might be a tough out too, if they make the playoffs.
The West is pretty awesome right now.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 6:51am #877167
Memphis MadnessParticipantMaybe this Suns team is for real.
People were expecting them to tail off.
Me and other Grizzlies fans hope they falter down the stretch.
But if they can beat OKC they can beat anybody.
The Suns might be a tough out too, if they make the playoffs.
The West is pretty awesome right now.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 9:37am #877118
FastAndFuriousParticipantThe only thing with the Suns come playoff time is that their style of play will get them in a world of trouble as teams will start to lockdown and defend alot better.
Their bread and butter is run and gun and in the playoffs they will have to score more in the halfcourt,not saying they cant but they wont be able to just run and gun in the playoffs.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 9:37am #877225
FastAndFuriousParticipantThe only thing with the Suns come playoff time is that their style of play will get them in a world of trouble as teams will start to lockdown and defend alot better.
Their bread and butter is run and gun and in the playoffs they will have to score more in the halfcourt,not saying they cant but they wont be able to just run and gun in the playoffs.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 5:29pm #877200
WälseParticipantWiggins is athletic, but he’s not Gerald Green athletic. Green, in my estimation, is the bounciest dude in the league right now, including Blake Griffin.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/07/2014 - 5:29pm #877307
WälseParticipantWiggins is athletic, but he’s not Gerald Green athletic. Green, in my estimation, is the bounciest dude in the league right now, including Blake Griffin.
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