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Gathering-traveling rule

I'm a bit confused with the NBA rule on traveling. I became confused after watching Dwyane Wade signature move where he steps through the defense and dunks. Such as here:

Everyone on youtube says it isn't a travel because the first step is a gather, but what I see is a guy dribling, taking three steps with the ball in his hands and dunking.
I mean as I understand the first step is a gather here because he takes the ball in two hands after the first step, so it's not a step?
If he did the same thing but kept the ball in one hand would it be a travel?

I'm sorry if I seem stupid with this, I've been following basketball for many years and kind of haven't thought about it before.


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Only in the NBA could that

Only in the NBA could that not possibly be traveling.

You're right that he takes 3 steps.

Tony Parker took 5 steps on a spin move in game 1 that also wasn't called.

The NBA has loosened the traveling rules since everyone already knew they weren't calling real travels to begin with.

But with 2 steps allowed, technically players should be allowed switch pivot feet (cause the reason that's a travel is cause it's a second step). Which makes it just a nightmare to deal with.

But that is absolutely a travel. 100%.

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Gather

I completely thought this thread was going to be about someone else... I'm ok w/ Wades signature gather step though. It's a controlled and calculated move that maximizes the limitations of the rules.

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Its a travel. Wade always

Its a travel. Wade always travels on fastbreaks. It would be kinda lame for the refs to call a walk on an easy basket in transition. That being said I would appreciate if the league started cracking down a little on travelling. It just mainly lets superstars be even more dominant - because ultimately it is the superstars who do most of the travelling.

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Thanks, guys. I just thought

Thanks, guys. I just thought that maybe there was some rule I was not aware of.

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I think they're getting

I think they're getting confused with when they catch the ball on the run. It's an incredibly difficult call to determine exactly what step is what so players tend to get more latitude. It's also the only time players can take those steps without dribbling without it being a travel.

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Honestly the first one didn't

Honestly the first one didn't look like a travel to me. I use that up and under move and the trick is to get your dribble to land almost at the exact same time as you step. If you get that bounce as your foot falls or before it comes back up to your hands then it's not a step it's a gather.

It looks worse in slow motion, but if the ball is on the way up and you take the step before you can gather it then it's not a travel.

The second one it looks like he might have planted that inside gather foot after he had already caught the ball, but against the Pacers it was clean, it just looks like a travel because he took such long steps and the ball moved in his hands a lot.

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The first one wasn't a

The first one wasn't a travel. You are allowed a "two-count" with the ball after picking it up on the move. The rules for traveling are different depending on whether you are stationary (where you can't lift your pivot foot) or moving. Wade had the ball for two counts in the accepted application of the term. The Spurs one was probably a travel, but just barely.

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This gathering step, or NBA

This gathering step, or NBA 3-step is one of the reasons I think Archie Goodwin is gonna successful in the league.

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