[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

We all know Dwyane, Kobe, and LeBron are franchise players.. but what about these other players.. Which ones of these players do you guys could be, could have been, or are franchise players?

Amar’e Stoudemire
Devin Harris
Andre Iguodala
David Lee
Ben Gordon
Danny Granger
Andrew Bogut
Joe Johnson
Stephen Jackson
Gerald Wallace
Kevin Martin
Rudy Gay
O.J. Mayo
Manu Ginobili
Monta Ellis
Andrew Bynum
Al Jefferson
Russell Westbrook
Brandon Roy
Carlos Boozer

[Toronto16Participant]

Amar’e Stoudemire – Nope, can’t play without a superstar PG, can’t create his own shot
Devin Harris – Nope
Andre Iguodala – Nope
David Lee – Nope
Ben Gordon – Nope
Danny Granger – Not if you wanna win titles
Andrew Bogut – Nope
Joe Johnson – Did you watch the playoffs?
Stephen Jackson – Nope
Gerald Wallace – Nope
Kevin Martin – Yes, if he wasn’t so injury prone
Rudy Gay – Meh, on the cusp
O.J. Mayo – Yes
Manu Ginobili – In his younger days
Monta Ellis – Nope
Andrew Bynum – Yes, if he was so injury prone
Al Jefferson – See Bynum
Russell Westbrook – Yes
Brandon Roy – Yes
Carlos Boozer – Yes

[BlueLacesParticipant]

I would say that Brandon Roy is the only true franchise player on this list. He is the only one who consitently makes the players around him better. Everyone else needs another all-star on their team in order to reach their full potential as players.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

“Joe Johnson – Did you watch the playoffs?”

Have you heard of Tracy McGrady?
-Franchise player who isn’t good in the playoffs.

[DanEboyParticipant]

Ben Gordon??? lol

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Rudy Gay is not on the cusp of being a Franchise player. O.J. Mayo is the late game scorer for Memphis and if they moved him to point, they would be more successful.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

What about Aaron Brooks?

[jpitkinParticipant]

Amar’e Stoudemire-He COULD be, but it’s looking more and more unlikely. He needs strong support. Not at this moment.
Devin Harris-No. Look at the Nets.
Andre Iguodala-He’s not a strong enough scorer.
David Lee-Not big enough. He’s very underrated, but he’s not on a franchise player level.
Ben Gordon-No. He’s one dimensional.
Danny Granger-Very good, but scoring is too inconsistent. No, but close. Could be.
Andrew Bogut-After last year, he looks much more like one, but not yet. No. Could be.
Joe Johnson-All-Star, sure, but “franchise”? No. Let’s see if Atlanta thinks so this offseason.
Stephen Jackson-Turns the ball over too much and has leadership issues. No.
Gerald Wallace-He looked like it THIS season, but he’s not quite there yet. And he gets injured too often. No. Could be.
Kevin Martin-He’s a great scorer, but that’s about it. Look at Sacramento after he left. No.
Rudy Gay-He could be, seems to have a lack of effort at times. Not good enough defense. No.
O.J. Mayo-Getting more well-rounded. He’s very good. He’s not there yet though. He could be.
Manu Ginobili-He’s All-Star worthy. Very talented. But I wouldn’t call him “franchise”. That’s Tim Duncan. No.
Monta Ellis-Definitely doesn’t have the makings of one yet. Turns over the ball a lout. But he could be. No, for now.
Andrew Bynum-Absolutely not. Overrated and injury prone. He’s got great defense, but that’s about it. No.
Al Jefferson-He’s an All-Star. But not franchise. Kevin Love fits the bill more. No.
Russell Westbrook-Not yet, but he very well might become one. No, but he could be.
Brandon Roy-Yes. He’s not quite LeBron, Kobe, or Dwyane, but he’s pretty much the next best thing.
Carlos Boozer-No. His offense is fantastic, but his absolute lack of defense hurts. Could be, in the right market, though.

[DanEboyParticipant]

D3Wade…how did you come up with this list? Why these certain players? I mean why not Rose, Evans, etc?

[HotSnotParticipant]

Do you define “franchise” as one of the best, or potential best at their respective positions or do you mean in the entire NBA?

Franchise Players on that list might be

Bynum, if he can stay healthy.
Roy, has a complete game and can lead an offense.

Thats it

Boozer is close, but not close enough for his position. He’s occasionally inconsistent. I think he had an above average season this year because it was a contract year. I believe his productivity will take a small dip next season no matter where he ends up.

Westbrook might end up a franchise guy if his shot continues to improve like it has been. If he continues to refine his floor general/decision making status. If he learns to rely less on athleticism as he get older.

Tier 2 of that list,
Granger
Bogut, very good but not a truely great Center
Wallace quality guy at the sf spot wish his 3’s were better
Martin points per shot is ridiulous
Ginobli
Amar’e Stoudemire can’t carry an off. weak rebounder and defense

Tier 3 of that list
Johnson, not a PG or true SG. Best suited as a SF which he doesn’t like to play
Gordon, Amazing shooter and can get the hoop one on one, doesn’t rebound, steal or have alot of dimes Doesn’t make teammates better.
Ellis, thinks he can score everytime. Curry is already a more complete player then ellis.
Iguodala, if it wasn’t for his superior athleticism I dont think he would be anything more then average.

Tier 4 of that list
Devin Harris
David Lee
Stephen Jackson great overall game but weak shot and shot selection
Rudy Gay doesn’t rebound, no real defense
O.J. Mayo
Al Jefferson

[ThaMatrixParticipant]

One guy i cant believe you guys missed was Chris Bosh.

[gwh21Participant]

Amar’e Stoudemire- No
Devin Harris- No
Andre Iguodala- No
David Lee-HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL no
Ben Gordon- No
Danny Granger-Has never been on a good team, Caron Butler type on a good team maybe
Andrew Bogut- Centers can no longer be franchise players in this era NBA, wings and guards only
Joe Johnson-Yes
Stephen Jackson-No chance anymore
Gerald Wallace- Older Jeff Green, so no
Kevin Martin-Yes
Rudy Gay-No, basically a more offensive Josh Smith, combine the 2 and you have one
O.J. Mayo-Clutch marketable and a great defender, yes
Manu Ginobili-6th man franchise player? No.
Monta Ellis-In a more structured system No
Andrew Bynum-NO
Al Jefferson-No
Russell Westbrook-Not with KD around
Brandon Roy-Oh yeah, more so than anybody on the list
Carlos Boozer-Nope

Why are Durant, Reke Evans,Brook Lopez and Steph Curry not on the list?

[the I in winParticipant]

I think Stoudemire, Iguodala, Bogut, Mayo, Bynum, Westbrook could all be. I say Stoudemire because i’ve never seen him without Nash.

Manu Could have been.

Roy is the only one that is.

[sc0rebuckets11Participant]

Well, I guess there’s no argument that Carmelo is for sure, a franchise player.

[boi34Participant]

Carmelo is a true franchise player, Also I think Derrick Rose in the next couple years will be better then everybody on that list

[the I in winParticipant]

I think Rose can be a franchise player but i’m not sure if he will be better than Roy. If Roy was on a team with a higher tempo i believe his numbers would be 27ppg, 6 rpg, 8 apg.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I can’t believe I read Carlos Boozer and Joe Johnson were franchise players. I don’t think a lot of you know what a franchise player is.

A franchise player is an elite player whom you can build your team around for the forseeable future and is the face of the franchise. I’m not talking about a player who puts up great numbers on a bad team. That was Kevin Martin on the Kings and he’s not a franchise player. That’s Danny Granger on the Pacers and no he isn’t a franchise player either. There are only a handfull of REAL franchise players in the NBA.

LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Dwayne Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kobe Bryant – The only reason I have him last on the list is because he’s getting up there in age. I still think he has two or three elite years left.

[Michael.S.Participant]

^agreed. those are the only”franchise players” that can win you games single-handedly in the playoffs

but I thinl churchboys list is very biased. Kevin Martin a franchise player but Granger is not? Amare cant create his own shot? Boozer a franchise player?

[the I in winParticipant]

What about Chris Paul? He won a couple playoff games when he was making tyson chandler look good and David West look great. He came in second for MVP that year. I would take Chris Paul way before Melo.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Can a team with Chris Paul as it’s best and go-to player ever win a championship?

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

None on the list are “Franchise Players”, although Brandon Roy and Danny Granger are very close.

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