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  • #36497
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    torontoraptors10
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    Recently Floyd Mayweather tweeted things in regards to Jeremy Lin. Here is what he said:

    "Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he’s Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don’t get the same praise."

    People when onto to say he is a racist and this "Asian" talk is spewing from his delayed Pacquiao fight.

    He then when on to say that,

    "Other countries get to support/cheer their athletes and everything is fine. As soon as I support Black American athletes, I get criticized."

    "I’m speaking my mind on behalf of other NBA players. They are programmed to be politically correct and will be penalized if they speak up."

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    I think that Mayweather has some truth to it. Yes he is Asian but that SHOULD NOT play into his success. IMO, Jeremy Lin is a great player who worked really hard to get where he is today, no doubt about that. For me personally, his story is what makes him interesting. He was undrafted and cut by two teams (Warriors and the Rockets) and now is making a name for himself by leading the Knicks. He slept on Landry Fields’ sofa and his brothers and was able to get his contract guaranteed and avoid a possible trade to the Raptors. He also thanks God after every game for his success. That’s why I like him. He brings a sense of realness and not some fake B/S.

    Do you guys think people are hopping on the Jeremy Lin bandwagon because he is Asian or because of his success? I know people who are cheering for him because he is Asian and making a name for himself, but just for the fact heis Asian. But let’s get one thing straight he is an American first, Asian second. And why aren’t the same people supporting Yao like they are doing for Lin? And IF people are cheering for him because he is Asian, don’t you think genetics plays a bigger role?

     

    What do you all of you think?

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  • #636649
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    Mr. 19134
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     He’s an idiot who likes to beat on women.  Plus he made millions from getting punched in the face so you can’t expect him to be the brightest bulb.

    But it’s absolutely not true that Black athletes do what Lin does every night.  If Baron Davis would of came back from injury and did what Lin just did it would be a big deal too.  But Lin being Asian does play a factor because he is the first Asian American to ever play in the league, that’s called a pioneer.

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  • #636647
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    He’s a moron.

    People aren’t infatuated with Jeremy Lin because he’s Asian.  Were they infatuated with Tim Tebow because he was white?  No.  

    America loves the underdog story and there is no bigger underdog story than Jeremy Lin, cut from two teams, 12th-man on another.  Non-guarenteed contract, sleeping on his brothers couch, presumeable on his way to play in the CBA and out of nowhere, he leads a team from the most famous city in the United States, New York, playing in perhaps the best stadium, Madison Square Garden, to a 5-0 record while averaging 27-8-4. 

    We all know guys like LeBron, Kobe, and Wade do it all the time, but were they 12th men at the start of the season?  No, they’re supposed to do things like this.  Mayweather is always stupid and he’s going to say racist remarks to get back in the media.  He’s jealous he hasn’t been in the news for a while so he wants to be the center of attention once again.

    Like I said, America loves the underdog story and there is no bigger story than Jeremy Lin’s.

    I can’t wait for Pacquiao to pop this dude and shut his mouth.

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  • #636653
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     I do believe some of his publicity is attributed to him being Asian…and this is coming from an Asian American. Would he still be a big story if he were white or an african american? yes, but would he be on the front page/top story of nearly every newspaper and sports website? probably not, and part of that is because he plays in the city of dreams for the Knicks. It is good marketing for the NBA to reach to fans overseas in Asia and attempt to further expand the leagues popularity. 

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  • #636652
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    OMARtheLEGEND
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    Floyd is partly right. A lot of Jeremy’s hype comes from  Asian-American fans. Asians everywhere have been looking for hope, since Yao Departed from the NBA, and now they have one to put their full support behind.

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  • #636654
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    Some of the hype is because he’s Asian, but most of it is due to the underdog theme and the fact he’s put himself in a class with Jordan, Shaq and Iverson.

    Oh yea… And the Knicks are 5-0 without Melo and Stoudemire since he took over at point. Then add in the fact he plays in New York lol.

    I don’t have a problem with what Mayweather said… That’s his opinion. I don’t necesarily agree with it though. There are other factors factoring in that he left out.

     

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  • #636656
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Lin is from Harvard, a school not known for producing nba players, he was undrafted, cut twice and was on the verge of getting cut with the Knicks..But got the chance to start becuz of injuries and he made the most out of it..Making the team role players play better..And he for the moment solves the team quest for a pg..And doing it in the number 1 media market in the world,adds more exposure… 

    I dont believe the hoopla surrounding Lin is becuz he’s asian..Becuz if he was doing it in Houston or in Charlotte,it wouldnt be on the front pages of national newspapers.It’ll only be in the sports section…

    My question is what happens to Baron Davis when he returns? The Knicks were counting  on him..

     

     

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  • #636657
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    For people to say none of the hype is becasue he’s Asian is silly though…

    I saw a sign in the New York Knicks crowd that said "Brown Mamba" lol.

    The Asian/Asian-Americans are really coming out and supporting this guy because now they have someone they can relate to that’s in the league.

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  • #636658
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    GoodbyeChandler
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     Well something tells me he’s used to seeing Asain-Americans ball on a national level cause I’m certainly not. I think what he’s missing is not the production, because the production is what drives the enthusiasm of  Knicks fans. What he doesn’t see is that Lin has one hell of a story. As the first Asain-American in the NBA, Lin has broken a barrier, and to do so in such a fashion is one aspect of the story. Another aspect is obviously the fact that he’s doing this in New York, which fuels this story’s exposure.

    In all honesty, race does play into the story and in my opinion it should. Its unfortunate that we live in a world filled with prejudices that stop people from believing in themselves. However, there are those who break barriers and exceed low expectations to accomplish feats greater than they could ever imagine. These are the people we should admire, not just cause they succeed, or do so in the face of adversity, but because they do something unprecedented that shatters molds and break barrriers. Its apprpriate that in a month dedicated to people like that, the NBA has someone similar to follow suit.

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  • #636660
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Looks Like Baron Davis,isnt the only person that doesnt like Lin’s success…lol

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  • #636676
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    Grandmama
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    He’s an idiot who’s been hit in the head a few too many times….

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  • #636678
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    akhan786
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    Mayweather is a proven bigot and the fact that he is playing the black card here is despicable.

    The guy has no class and a loud mouth. I agree with TOL23 I hope Pacquiao gives him the business.

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  • #636680
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    delfam
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     being Asian isn’t why he’s a big story, it’s because he’s unique. Look at Tiger Woods, he had so much hype when he came into the PGA Tour cause he was a black player playing in a white sport. Lin has hype because he’s Asian coming into a black sport.

    Race has nothing to do with it, it’s just that it’s a unique thing and has never happened before, same with Tiger Woods.

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  • #636691
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    F_DA_PO
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    Mayweather is an idiot, but how the hell is Pacquiao gonna win a fight against him? First, Pacquiao doesn’t wanna do a drug test, then when Mayweather says "fine I’ll fight you even without the drug test", now the guy has found some other excuse not to fight. Sounds like hes scared.

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  • #636692
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    This dude is just sour cause his own country doesn’t hype him over pac-man. Mayweather is and has always been a piece of trash, you should look up the racist comments he directed at pacquaio a few years back. Dudes got no class, no respect for anybody, and Like Terrell Owens thinks everyone cares about his opinion. I want nothing more than to see  this guy knocked out in my lifetime.

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  • #636696
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I don’t like Mayweather, but I don’t like Pac Man either.

    I don’t care. I just want to see them beat the sh*t out of each other.

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  • #636697
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    M-DYMES
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    Floyd is obnoxious, insensible, and disrespectful as a person.  I love him as a fighter, and I will support him 100% on the subject of the "cheap shot" he issued.  Hell I love that he’s going after Pacquiao and pushing hard for the fight.  But this guy just doesn’t know how to speak without causing controversy.  It very well may be his goal and he is very good at it if that is the case.  He tries to make a relevant point, but he puts a twist on it to the point where people get offended just enough to get his name in the news. 

    People love Lin, Tebow, Rocky, Rudy, Allen Iverson, the little guards, Chris Andersen, Josh Hamilton…etc. because they overcame odds and doubt.  Because their route to success wasn’t paved, but rather a journey.  People love a feel good, under dog, rags to riches, chip on the shoulder, type players and stories.  Very little has to do with him being Asian, aside from those who can relate heretically and have a role model through that connection.

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  • #636701
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    CodySLC
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     Maybe it has less to do with his race, and more to do with the under dog story and he great numbers he’s putting up. That and the Knick finally stringing together some Wins. 

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  • #636702
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    This is what I hate about sports. Just when somebody does so well, works so hard, people find someway to tribute that success to his race and state that as the real story. No, thats not true, that nots true for anybody. Race should never be the reason why a person is so good at what he does. Lin is good and the real deal not because he is asain or even part asain but because he worked hard for it, wanted it, and was in the right situation. That is why he is getting so much praise. Because of the fact that he is the perfect cinderella story, and everybody loves a cinderella story. Cinderella teams or players for that matter do not get their credit because of their race but because of their hard work, determination, and the right situation. I guarantee you that if Lin did not work hard, and did not have any determination to want to do well but was still Asain, this would not even be a story, and the Knicks would still be suffering as a team. If he was white or even black but still had the determination and worked hard to earn his success this would still be a huge story. Lin deserves this credit, don’t try and undermine it by saying its because of his race because it is definitely not. Your race has nothing to do with hard work and determination. Never has and never will. Lin and Pacquiao had better put Mayweather in his place and he should learn to shut his mouth when it comes to racist comments like this.

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  • #636703
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    F_DA_PO
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    All the negs, explain to me how Pacquiao isn’t afraid of Mayweather then? Yeah yeah….

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  • #636712
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    because it’s the other way around… Mayweather is the one with the excuses NOT to fight Pacquiao.. With him going to jail, they’re not going to… Though he will fight Cotto next…

     

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  • #636713
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    I didn’t give you a neg FDAPO…

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  • #636718
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    F_DA_PO
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    Why did Mayweather have to call Pacquiao and now has to fight someone else? Why am I hearing Pacquiao might be fighting his last fight? It really sounds like "pac man" has gone soft. The only thing I heard from this guy in the past few years is him singing in a youtube commercial.

     

    It definitely sounds like Mayweather was ready to fight Pacquiao before going to jail. Pacquiao backed out again. And it’s a reasonable excuse to not want to fight someone who doesn’t wanna take a drug test aka hes obviously on PEDs.

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  • #636719
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    Future_Scout

    RACISTT!!!!!, i cant get until he gets in the ring with paquiao. i got to point out the fact that he broke the record with most points throughout their first 4 games played (since merger). tops where mj, ai, etc…

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  • #636721
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    call me crazy but i don’t think Floyd really wants to kick into any Real fights at his age and presnt state of mind…

    I have always said this as a boxing/martial arts fan , Mayweather is a great Boxer, but he hasn’t gottne into a Real fight in his life…The closest he ever got was against a over the hill Shane Mosley(where Mosley looked like he would beat Floyd at at point before wearing himself out, again his age comes to mind) and then the Ortiz fight, where I believe if the fight had gone on and Victor Ortiz not completly fold under the bright lights and Mayweather’s Star status, he had a chance…

    I’m going to speak for a large portion of the world when I say I hate what Floyd Mayweather represents…I hate every thing about the man, if you root for what he is then I can care less about your views about ANYTHING of value on The Planet…There a Millions, maybe Billions of people on the brink of starvation,homelessness,decease,rape,murder etc.etc, yet men like Mayweather exist for what, to show us if your an Ignorant piece of shyt with Boxing skill and Millions of Dollars you can belittle whoever you wnat and flaunt the fact you were blessed to be born in the Capitalist Country that allowed you and Your Owners to make Millions exploiting a dying sport through Media Made controversy,,…

    I hope Pacman and Floyd actualy fight, not dance around and steal millions of dollars from Pay Per View customers, If they actually choose to show up and cement their legacies in a fight ala Leonard Vs Duran, then I think Pacman knocks Mayweather in the late stages of a Classic…I hope THAT happens, but I’m beating on a snore fest when it happpens while Manny is too old chase Floyd around for 12 rounds…

    Bottom Line Fuck Floyd Mayweather…He should have known Jeremy Lin would be mass marketed in America, he’s was made in Taiwan…

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  • #636724
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    why does he need to have that condition of having an Olympic style drug test for both of them wherein fact it has been proven many many times that Pacquiao has passed the drug tests administered by the Nevada Athletic Commission? Is he not convinced by that alone? He’s making those excuses… Pacquiao’s always been ready but it’s Mayweather who’s been making lame excuses… Mayweather claimed that Pacquiao had been taking drugs for a long time, for a long time means even during his boxing days in the Philippines? Where his part time job was to sell fish at the market for a mere earning just to provide food for his family? He can’t even afford drugs that Mayweather was claiming about…

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  • #636797
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    M.Garvey
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    Let me Kick some knowledge here:

    Majority of the arguments here are ad hominem. Attacking Floyd because of personal dislike and not looking at the argument. Disclosure: I believe floyd holds racist views towards asian people, see: ustream or twitter.

    However, just because someone acknowledges race in a situation does not make them racist, it makes them socially acute and observant. Part of the fascination of Jeremy Lin is because we have never seen someone like him before, him being a Chinese/Taiwenese American point guard, coupled with his ability to ball, his rags to riches basketball story and his Harvard pedigree, and i forgot new york media. to say race has nothing to the story is intellectual dishonest. Race is part of the fascination of Barack Obama, Tiger Woods (well whatever category he wants to be in), Serena/Venus Williams. its that they excelled in a domain that does not historically have people like them participating. To say its not is once again intellectually dishonest. And there is nothing wrong with Asians or the media celebrating that. its actually a good thing for basketball as it stays in mainstream. lets not forget that after the LA 3peat basketball was a dud and losing interest.

    where Floyd goes wrong is that he’s a hater, instead of being happy for a fellow athlete that has worked hard, he allows his personal bias to cloud his judgement/argument. would floyd be happy if this was Norris Cole or Cory Joseph instead of Jeremy Lin in the same situation, I believe he would. Thats why I believe Floyd holds racist views towards Asians and should be blasted for that.

    My rant is over, in the end Floyd’s an idiot, a great boxer, and is right and wrong at the same time.

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  • #636807
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    M.Garvey
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    Just saying I think I had the best summary of it. But whatever

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  • #636892
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     F_DA_FO , seriously, you dont know what you’re talking about man. pacman is just doin what promoters tell him to, but in the interviews he is willing to fight him anytime anywhere. the conditions that mayweather wants is just hard to reach. or when met, he suddenly pussies out and fights weaker opponents. 

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  • #636946
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I Bet Baron Davis is Wondering if his days with the Knicks are numbered becuz of Lin’s success?

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