FINALS GAME 2
Durant should've fouled out on a block call earlier in the game (which they made the call super late) so I think that's a fair trade. Even so, it was probably tough for the ref to the foul from behind (unless a ref was under the hoop, wasn't paying that much attention).
from behind each game and expect to win then it's not looking good for them.
kay jay, go F yourself. that was a foul on lebron you nut hugger. that should be 2 free throws for kevin durant no question. do you play basketball? cause youd probably be the one crying because that was such a blatant foul. and yes im very salty right now the thunder lost...
How did the refs play a role in the Thunder getting back in it? The Thunder just finally started playing with the energy they normally do and they started putting together little runs and stops.
Nobody is mad at LeBron for fouling. Nobody is short changing the Heat for the great game they played.
But the point is... LeBron got away with two fouls man. That's just crazy. Durant should've been at the free-throw line.
Sheesh, how often is that foul called anyways? Nobody complains that LeBron gets pushed when he drives. The difference is LeBron is always stronger and bigger than the guy fouling him. One call doesn't make the game and the refs aren't entitled to just call everything one way to preserve the comeback.
Kayjay is right. The complaining is ridiculous. Nobody complains if the Thunder win.
@kayjay did you just say that "smart" fouls in the Finals should not be called?? okay it's alright the refs brought back okc by calling 2 charges on harden (cole was in the air in the first) calling an OVER THE BACK FOUL(!!!!!) on durant and sending lebron to the line whenever the heat got stuck..mcgreener said it exactly..ruining one of the greatest comebacks ever
Nah, I'm actually a devoted Sacramento Kings fan. Are the majority of people in here Thunder fans? Nah I doubt that. I defend him because I decided to go against the grain of rooting for this guy to fail. If that makes me a nut hugger fine I don't really care. Other than that as I stated it was a foul, but regardlessly it was still a smart play.
the refs are entitled to make the right call in the biggest game of the year. LeBron does get fouled and they call the defenders for fouling him.
I remember Thabo getting called for having his hand on LeBron's back earlier in the game... Very little contact to me, but I thought the ref was right for calling that.
I mean, I don't know...
Heat definitely earned this game and played great. But LeBron fouled not one, but two players in two possessions.
Should've been two free-throws with the best free-throw shooter on the floor.
But LeBron played amazing. Great fun game. Just wish the Thunder didn't come out so flat.
I'll have to watch the replay of that play again, because I didn't notice the foul on that last Durant shot, the one for the tie.
Nice comeback by OKC, but they need to start of games better, I didn't watch the first half, however Durant is an assasain in the end, he just missed that last shot, but Westbrook needs to stop the jumpshots, I loved the way he got the rim on several occasions at the end of the game, but he needs to ease up on the "20 seconds left in the shot clock" shots.
@bball fan LEBRON GETS A SHIT TON OF CALLS! he went to the line 12 times tonight. hop off.
Perkins can't play next game. PLEASE BENCH PERKINS SCOTT BROOKS!
What was the other foul? I don't remember.
And no doubt KD was fouled, bu it's not like it was blatant.
ehh, it was pretty blatant, lebron wasnt even looking at KD when he got the ball, then KD beat him on the baseline drive, making lebron have to reach in or it would have been a dunk by KD.
And this is why the 2-3-2 format is dumb. The series is now tiw 1-1 and Miami is more likely o close out now that they have 3 straight home games.
LeBron fouled KD first... He wrapped his arm up and then there was contact during the shot... It clearly affected KD from getting the shot off. I mean, how else did LeBron recover? He wasn't even paying attention and was clearly out of the play.
And then on the following play, Westbrook had a tip at the rim and LeBron fouled him too.
That's why Westbrook was pissed and cursing at the ref right after the play.
Heat played great from start to finish, but the Thunder's comeback was out of this world and the refs just sh*t on them to end the game.
:-0 i totally forgot about that. NOOOO.
this series and wants it to go past 5 games. He will throw one OKC's way probably game 4.
well, all im saying is, i truly believe if the heat want to win this series they have to win every home game. cause if they dont i think the thunder will close this series out in OKC.
I see it now, Lebron hit his leg, that's why KD was short on that one.
Man... As crazy as Westbrook drives me sometimes, he puts me at awe with his athleticism. I mean, who takes it directly into LeBron James and finishes with contact???
And then on like two or three rebounds, he almost caught tip dunks over like 3 Heat players.
That dude's athleticism is just sooo nice.
I didn't hear any of this complaining about the refs when game 1 there were dozens of questionable calls against the heat, if anything the league is for Durant. And the thunder were gettin calls to, so no one should be complaining about the refs, it's the finals, did you really want a game to end with the refs blowing the whistle? Because I didn't.
The foul that Thabo committed on LeBron would have looked much worse if LeBron was as thin as Durant. Because LeBron is so big and seldom, if at all, exagerrates contact, when he is fouled is isn't called as often. Teams play much more physical with him than they could on Durant, because Durant could sell the calls.
I thought Thabo played great defense on LeBron to be honest, but he put his hand on LeBron's back... You have to call that foul. At first I thought it wasn't a foul, but then during the replay, I said good call.
The fouls on Durant and Westbrook were even more obvious at the end of the game. I just don't know how the refs can hold their whistles. Smh.
LeBron did everything and more this game, but he was bailed out that last possession. He turned his head on the ball and was beat by two steps. He's reaction was to grab and he got away with it.
This game should've been in OT with both LeBron and Durant, both on fire, battling against each other.
"The refs along with Durant are a big reason why they even caught up to the Heat. You guys find any way not to give the Heat credit. They closed the deal. Yes that was a foul by Lebron. But you can neg me when I say this it was still smart do or die by James."
The fact of the matter is none of us complaining are talking about how the Heat out played the Thunder, which is how it should be. Just like game two in Boston everyone walks aways wondering why the ref held his whistle. Instead of the Heat beating the Thunder, it's now "wow, Heat win on another blown call". How can I give a team credit when they clearly aren't the better team, and can only barely make it past teams even when they get all the calls THAT MATTER! I'll respect the Heat when they can win an important game that isn't controversial
Those were definitely two blown calls that affected the outcome, but you have to give the Heat more credit. I'm probably the biggest LeBron critic on this site, but when he plays like this (especially down the stretch) you just have to give him his due.
This is probably the best I've ever seen them play. And for all of the criticism D. Wade got, he played his ass off today. Bosh was a monster on the glass. Battier was knocking down the three again. Great team defense. Ball movement. Just a clinic.
This is going to be a great series. We're about to see what the Thunder are made of with three straight games in Miami.
They will be the desperate team next game.
I don't understand it...you all actually say that because lebron FINALLY delivered we should give him everything he wants!
You can only give the Heat more credit because they won the game. They didn't out play the Thunder, they didn't out hustle anyone, and they didn't make more plays down the stretch. The only thing in this game that seperated the Miami Heat from the OKC Thunder was a whistle. I'm sorry, you guys can neg me all you want, but that doesn't say **** about the Miami Heat.
The Media is pathetic, they want Kevin Durant to say "Yes I was fouled". They want a story so bad and KD won't give it to him.
I feel like I've been robbed of another pure basketball game. The refs had about a 4-6 point differential in this game, favoring the Miami Heat. Not sure if you can really dispute that if you watched the game. On another note, what's up with Westbrook taking that 3 at the very end? How is that not Durant's shot.
Kevin Durant doesn't even have to say he was fouled... I mean, obviously he was. The world knows.
But I like his approach. In his mind, he's thinking they played terrible to start this game... He's probably thinking about the things they could've done to win this game more than that foul. How he got into foul trouble. He's a no excuse guy and will blame himself.
IF they want to win this series, they can't come out flat like that.
Lol at reporters bugging Durant who is trying to take the high road.
Also not sure if anyone mentioned I haven't read the other posts but it seemed like Lebron fouled Durant before the shot and the Heat had a foul to give.
Heat made the game close with Wade foolish turnover when Lebron was right there on his right side open and Bosh gambling going for a steal and Durant hit that big 3.
Big night for Wade, Lebron and Bosh though they took a lot less jumpers and the Heat dominated most of the game.
A couple of things OKC must do next game.
First, they have to stop coming out so flat in the first half of games. They did it in previous series, but their immense talent was able to carry them through at the end of those games. They can't be giving a team like the Heat a 17 point cushion in the first quarter. If they do, they are going to have trouble winning.
Second, Russell Westbrook has to look to get Durant going earlier in the game. That first quarter Westbrook was playing way too fast, out of control, and really was looking to get Durant involed. I understand his game is to attack attack attack, but Kevin Durant is the leading scorer in the NBA for a reason. Get him looks early. Tonight Westbrook was playing recklessly and not looking for KD in the first half. Westbrook has to get it under control and start looking to get KD going early and OFTEN.
A couple more little things. First, Fisher shouldn't have played as many minutes as he did tonight, especially late. Another guy, Kendrick Perkins, playing way too much. Collison is much more active, better defensively versus screens, and a better option on offense. Collison can match up against the Heat bigs better than Perkins in my opinion.
I'm with Kayjay, I actually like Lebron a lot more now because everyone else hates him for everything he has ever done. People on this site constantly &$#%#&@! about his flopping, did anyone watch Harden tonight? Everytime he goes up for a jump shot he lands on his ass, he plays like he is 30 pounds he gets knocked over that easy. There was like one questionable call, stop blaming the refs, I've said it many times before, basketball is without doubt the hardest sport in the world to officiate. You guys probably made that call after watching a slow motion replay. Referees don't get that luxury.
Mcgreener you are a sore loser
Oh there is no doubt... Harden is compared to Ginobli for his flopping too.
It's hard to ref the game, but Jesus... You have to call those two fouls against Durant and Westbrook.
But the Thunder aren't using that as excuse during post. So neither will I for them.
I'm not a fan of either team and just want to see a great series. It's living up to the expectations so far.
I agree with everything you posted.
I'm surprised he played Perkins this much this game.
The Thunder are giving up too many wide open jumpshots. They're not communicating or making the right rotations on defense to get out to shooters. Westbrook falls asleep on some of his rotations.
But I just looked at the box score and Perkins only played 20 mins lol.
/\/\ Collison played so well game 1 I figured Brooks would give Collison more minutes than Perkins tonight....guess not. And yeah they definitely have to rotate out to the the Heat's shooters better.
Just making an observation, the refs fault wasn't blowing the call, it was his fault that he wasn't farther down the baseline where he could get a better view, because I honestly don't think he saw the foul from that angle.
Pretty minor contact in my opinion for folks to get that worked up about. Refs always swallow the wistle at the end of the game. A little hand check to the body (not the head or shooting arm) really doesn't seem like it should get called. And Durrant drove into Lebron anyway creating some of that contact which is a nice way to make the defender not be able to jump for the shot block. Durrant hand a pretty clean look once he elevated, so the "foul" certainly left him with a good chance to make that shot.
Westbrook fould was a little more bang bang where their hands get tangled up and also hard to call at that point in the game.
My main problem was that Lebron basically stopped posting up after the first quarter even though it was the post ups that got them the big lead. And they needed every point of that big lead plus a lucky Battier banked three pointer to hold on last night. Lebron's desire to turn himself into the worlds strongest point guard creating all of his points with a dribble attack starting 30 feet from the basket is frustrating to watch. But he is good enough to pull of what was nearly a full quarter of hero ball without any real plays being called. They will need another big lead if they are going to try to finish games playing like that.