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- Posted on: Tue, 05/09/2017 - 2:35pm #66242
BallerScriptParticipantWhere is their stock sitting at and who would you take?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/09/2017 - 3:14pm #1096974
Dog_ShammdogParticipantFerguson is a knockdown shooter off the catch and knows how to get open off the ball. He’s one of the only prospects in this draft outside the top ten who stacks up to Diallo athletically. I think that Ferguson is currently the more complete player and will be ready to contribute much soonerthan Diallo. Some may prefer Diallo due to defensive potential, but I don’t see how Ferguson has any less… If Gerald Green couldn’t hit the ground running in the NBA, I have even less faith that Diallo ever will. His size and athleticism are his only translatable traits at this point in time and his body of work is LITERALLY non-existent. Even going back to HS when they were playing the same competition, it was quite obvious that Diallo was way more raw than Ferguson, and I’m not convinced that anything has transpired since then to change that.
Ferguson could very well come in and be solid rotation player as a 3-n-D guy from day one. I think he’ll spend some time in the D-League but won’t be surprised if he sticks on an NBA roster from day one.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 05/09/2017 - 3:52pm #1096978
ChoppyParticipantI know a few media outlets are knocking Ferguson because he played overseas for a year, but I can’t help but think that the experience of playing against seasoned veterans (albeit in a lower league), will benefit him immensely. At 18 years of age going against grown men, some 10 years his senior and holding his own, I think it was a successful season for Ferguson. I have him ahead at this point. To be honest though, I haven’t seen much of Diallo.
0- Posted on: Tue, 05/09/2017 - 4:22pm #1096982
Dog_ShammdogParticipantI agree. And I also think that any negatives that ppl have about Ferguson, the same can be said about Diallo and more…. I really think Diallo should go to school for a year or atleast compete in the 5 on 5 at the combine to give the scouts a better feel of how he stacks up next to his peers. Hopefully he’s in some private group workouts and some footage leaks. I’d love to see him competing against Justin Jackson, Ferg, Wesley Iwundu, Thornwell etc
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- Posted on: Tue, 05/09/2017 - 6:45pm #1096987
ThenilonatorParticipantI don’t know enough about Diallo to do the comparisons but I watched every one of ferguson’s nbl games. As stated above this league is considered (correctly) as a lower league and ferguson showed enough against seasoned vets that he may one day turn into a rotational player probably forging a niche as a sharp shooter with really good, probably elite, athleticism. I do think, however he is quite a few years away from carving out a regular rotational spot on an NBA roster and I would be banking on him bouncing around the league for a while.
One real positive I saw last year in ferguson was how professsional he carried himself. Never once did I see him complain about game time even though he didn’t get a lot. He was the first one off the bench at timeouts to high five his team mates and from an outsider looking in looked like a great team mate. For this reason alone I’m rooting for the kid and hope he has a long and successful NBA career and can add to the ever growing list of meaningful NBA players to have visited our shores!
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/10/2017 - 2:42am #1097002
HobbyOGParticipantLate first rounders. Good gamble for the Nets. And good gambles for playoff teams that can sit a player for a year or two. Doubt these two would be major contributers for teams next year.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/10/2017 - 3:22am #1097008
nill650ParticipantI don’t like either one out of the gate
Diallo return to School
Ferg drafted late 1st stays overseas couple more seasons
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/10/2017 - 4:33am #1097017
ChammesParticipantDiallo is short and isnt as good of a shooter as Ferguson, plus ferguson is a monster athlete and can light it up from three. T ferg is long and already 6’7 so much rather have ferguson.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/10/2017 - 7:16am #1097029
holefillers1ParticipantI dont have much of a feel for Ferguson. From what I’ve read he is a Tony Snell, Rodney Hood type. Does he do any one thing well enough to carve out a niche in the league? Is there a more appropriate comp for his skill set?
0- Posted on: Wed, 05/10/2017 - 8:44am #1097034
nill650Participantthe comp is anthony morrow I think he might be a little bit better shooter than that already.
deadly from beyond the break is the concensus but doesn’t do much else yet. Have not heard good reviews about ball handling or ability to create separation so i am guesing he is just a catch and shoot prospect and can defend but is not good by nba std.
could go as high as mid 1st to a team that had monk or Kennard at the top of thier needs board but are gone.
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/10/2017 - 8:29am #1097033
theballerwayParticipantFerg is in that JR Smith/T.Ross mold. Streaky shootrs who can heat up quickly. Not much in the slashing and ball handling department. Defensive potential/tools but not defensive minded players. Grat on a fast break or dunk contest. Atleast top 6man potential
Diallo – I look at as a slasher with damn near as much athletism as T.Ferg but more likely to use it while attacking. Hes only played against kids though so who knows how he would perform against similar athletes. Got some handles but there loose. So much more f a risk but i like it.
Athough he is an inch or two shorter I think if he had a better jumpshot hed be the more lethal offensive threat, i dont see Ferg turning into a different of player all of a sudden. He is more likely to refine his 3 ball as much as poss.
all just opinion though
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/12/2017 - 8:26am #1097149
nill650Participantnot sure what Diallo’s ceiling is now that he killed it at the Combine in the athletic testing , well at least in the leaping ability segmant.
I am now reading he is projected mid-late 1st regardless of how far away from actually playing in the nba he is, a number of teams will draft him and hopr they get a superstar down the road. Has all of the physical tools to be elite if his game can catch up with his body.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/12/2017 - 9:32am #1097154
Afactor4ParticipantA team with multiple picks in the middle of the first round will take Diallo after the Combine. Near 45 inch vertical and a 6’11.25 wingspan?!
At the very least, Diallo doesn’t slip past the Spurs in the late first round.
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/12/2017 - 5:55pm #1097177
nill650ParticipantYeah it is not like his game is as raw Kenny Gregory’s was … the only propect with a higher max vert in combine history.
Gregory was not drafted never player in the league
Either way I think teams will come back down to earth on draft night unless he shows something he hasn’t in private workouts, I think Nets 2nd 1st rounder seems like his floor right now, but theoretically could go as high as the Bucks at 17 given thier attraction to sleepers with extreme measurements and physicality
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/13/2017 - 8:50am #1097206
CoachWyersParticipantRight now it looks as though Ferguson is in the 10-25 range so late lottery to late first round. Diallo is in the 20-35 range so late first round to early second round.
I prefer Ferguson because he is a great athlete and he is a knock down shooter. With his defensive ability as well he is a guy that could become a capable top wing off the bench for a team in the mold of a 3 and D specialist. If he can develop his ballhandling and strength he could become a great two way wing because that would allow him to utilize his athleticism as a slasher in the half court and would allow him to create his own shot and it would also allow him to become a lockdown defender on the wing. Right now he is just a catch and shoot guy.
Right now Diallo is just a raw athlete that thrives in the open court and plays hard his whole game is based off physicality and is lacking skill at this point. If his skills especially his shooting range and consistency on his shot don’t develop he is going to struggle to be much more than a spot player off the bench . To me Diallo has a lot of bust potential and could be out of the NBA pretty quick.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/13/2017 - 11:36am #1097215
khaled_a_dParticipantDepends on what team want to do,Fergueson is one of the safest pick IMO,6’7 SG/SF who plays defense and shoot the 3. Already has experience playing in the stats despite only high school but also played professionally and very coachable who would play under control
Solid side for both positions despite nothing spectacular. 2 inches advantage in both height and standing reach despite shorter wingspan
Diallo is kind of high risk high reward tbh,has some gr8 physical tools but is a bit unkown0 - AuthorPosts
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