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- Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 4:24pm #52352
Lotto StudParticipant4-yrs $49mil
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 4:43pm #844101
Kinguy11ParticipantI was personally surprised when this happened. Previous rumours said he was headed for restricted free agency. A good pickup for the Jazz though, I think he’ll be a very good player this year.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 4:43pm #844214
Kinguy11ParticipantI was personally surprised when this happened. Previous rumours said he was headed for restricted free agency. A good pickup for the Jazz though, I think he’ll be a very good player this year.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 5:24pm #844103
jwall1ParticipantI was also surprised with this, although happy because Favors has so much upside. As a starter I feel he will easily average a double double with 2+ blocks, but I am not sure how his offensive game will progress.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 5:24pm #844216
jwall1ParticipantI was also surprised with this, although happy because Favors has so much upside. As a starter I feel he will easily average a double double with 2+ blocks, but I am not sure how his offensive game will progress.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 5:41pm #844105
IndianaBasketballParticipantIF Favors got $49 million, how much is Hayward going to get?
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 7:22pm #844109
WinterSoldierParticipantHopefully much less than that. I do not see Hayward being able to lead a championship caliber team. I hope my Jazz are smart about his extension. I would say 4 year 30 mil.
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 11:15pm #844121
SiggyParticipantIf that’s what you think the Jazz should offer Hayward then prepare to be disappointed. He’ll command more than that in the FA market. He’s the Jazz’ best player and has shown more improvement than Favors. He might not get 12 mill per because he’s not an athletic 6’10-11 player, but he’ll get more than 7 mill. I mean, Jeff Teague just got 8 mill per and he’s a below average starting PG.
As for Favors extension, I’m not a fan of it since it’s a purely based on potential. Out of all the players from the 2010 class who’ve gotten big extensions, Favors is the least proven. At least a guy like Larry Sanders proved that he’s a DPOY caliber player and Favors got MORE than him.
0- Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:44am #844306
TheLastWordParticipantHe is also the youngest of the class. I think Favors D is already comparable to Sanders and he is 3 years younger. History has shown if you let a semi talented big into RFA, he will be maxed. The Jazz have saved 13 million over the course of his contract by locking him up now rather than matching a max offer. If they let him walk it becomes even more devastating as no marque free agents come to Utah.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 10:44am #844193
TheLastWordParticipantHe is also the youngest of the class. I think Favors D is already comparable to Sanders and he is 3 years younger. History has shown if you let a semi talented big into RFA, he will be maxed. The Jazz have saved 13 million over the course of his contract by locking him up now rather than matching a max offer. If they let him walk it becomes even more devastating as no marque free agents come to Utah.
0- Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:26am #844310
SiggyParticipantThere is no metric that says that Favors’ D is comparable to Sanders. He’s actually been a pretty overrated man defender.
Favors
iso ppp (points per possession against) .82
post up ppp .92
dAdjusted +/- 1.6
dAdjusted +/- (boxscore) 3.1Sanders
iso ppp .62
post up ppp .7
dAdjusted +/- 3.2
dAdjusted +/- (boxscore) 6.1Nothing in his game has given any indication that he’s a max player. He’s shown little development in his offense and he hangs his hat on defense where in terms of man defense he’s pretty average.
I think they jumped the gun. At least see how he does as a full time starter first.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 11:26am #844197
SiggyParticipantThere is no metric that says that Favors’ D is comparable to Sanders. He’s actually been a pretty overrated man defender.
Favors
iso ppp (points per possession against) .82
post up ppp .92
dAdjusted +/- 1.6
dAdjusted +/- (boxscore) 3.1Sanders
iso ppp .62
post up ppp .7
dAdjusted +/- 3.2
dAdjusted +/- (boxscore) 6.1Nothing in his game has given any indication that he’s a max player. He’s shown little development in his offense and he hangs his hat on defense where in terms of man defense he’s pretty average.
I think they jumped the gun. At least see how he does as a full time starter first.
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- Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 11:15pm #844234
SiggyParticipantIf that’s what you think the Jazz should offer Hayward then prepare to be disappointed. He’ll command more than that in the FA market. He’s the Jazz’ best player and has shown more improvement than Favors. He might not get 12 mill per because he’s not an athletic 6’10-11 player, but he’ll get more than 7 mill. I mean, Jeff Teague just got 8 mill per and he’s a below average starting PG.
As for Favors extension, I’m not a fan of it since it’s a purely based on potential. Out of all the players from the 2010 class who’ve gotten big extensions, Favors is the least proven. At least a guy like Larry Sanders proved that he’s a DPOY caliber player and Favors got MORE than him.
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- Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 7:22pm #844222
WinterSoldierParticipantHopefully much less than that. I do not see Hayward being able to lead a championship caliber team. I hope my Jazz are smart about his extension. I would say 4 year 30 mil.
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- Posted on: Fri, 10/18/2013 - 5:41pm #844218
IndianaBasketballParticipantIF Favors got $49 million, how much is Hayward going to get?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:14am #844123
XYRYXParticipant4 years and 49 million is the same money Ibaka got on his extension and I think it’s fair value for him as I see them have similar upside.
But Hayward will ask for the same price range and Kanter will ask for the same money next year. Some tough decisions to make in the future but I’m glad the Jazz stick to their plan on developing their young core.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 12:14am #844236
XYRYXParticipant4 years and 49 million is the same money Ibaka got on his extension and I think it’s fair value for him as I see them have similar upside.
But Hayward will ask for the same price range and Kanter will ask for the same money next year. Some tough decisions to make in the future but I’m glad the Jazz stick to their plan on developing their young core.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 5:57am #844149
BasketBalAllanParticipantThat’s the most expensive 10 pst, 10 rebs, and 2 blks I have seen in a while.
This is a mistake by the Jazz, they could have used this year to actually see if Favors will succeed in a large front court role and signed him to the same type of contract next off season.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 5:57am #844262
BasketBalAllanParticipantThat’s the most expensive 10 pst, 10 rebs, and 2 blks I have seen in a while.
This is a mistake by the Jazz, they could have used this year to actually see if Favors will succeed in a large front court role and signed him to the same type of contract next off season.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 4:26pm #844354
HitsterParticipantGood deal for both sides and I feel the Jazz were right to act now, they have lost Jefferson and Millsap and lets say Kanter and Favours both have 15 to 18ppg and 8 to 10rpg seasons. Someone would have offered Favours a max or near offer or he’d have looked to get a near max or max offer from Utah and with Kanter eligible for an extension next summer, Utah may have had to stump up a lot of money to keep both.
Favours representatives may have been prepared to wait but $49 million is a lot to turn down and if he had a quiet season, his value could decline so they probably decided that to extend now is a good idea for both sides. Favours is only 22 years old so can now concentrate on developing his upside knowing he has a guaranteed contract in the NBA for the next 5 years ( year left on his rookie deal and his 4 year extension).
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/19/2013 - 4:26pm #844241
HitsterParticipantGood deal for both sides and I feel the Jazz were right to act now, they have lost Jefferson and Millsap and lets say Kanter and Favours both have 15 to 18ppg and 8 to 10rpg seasons. Someone would have offered Favours a max or near offer or he’d have looked to get a near max or max offer from Utah and with Kanter eligible for an extension next summer, Utah may have had to stump up a lot of money to keep both.
Favours representatives may have been prepared to wait but $49 million is a lot to turn down and if he had a quiet season, his value could decline so they probably decided that to extend now is a good idea for both sides. Favours is only 22 years old so can now concentrate on developing his upside knowing he has a guaranteed contract in the NBA for the next 5 years ( year left on his rookie deal and his 4 year extension).
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/20/2013 - 7:37am #844301
RakkiParticipantjavale mcgee got 44mil. Good extension by the jazz
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/20/2013 - 7:37am #844414
RakkiParticipantjavale mcgee got 44mil. Good extension by the jazz
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