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  • #32713
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    A lot of players get noticed for the things they do on the court, but it’s a very rare occasion that the man off the bench gets recognition for doing the little things to give his team that spark other then winning a 6th man Award. Now is the time to confess your love for your favorite player who comes off the pine so feel free to let us know about your guy.

    Lou Williams

    what he brings: Slashing & scoring ability……can fill it up in a hurry, knock down shooting from the perimeter, ability to get to the rim & flush on anyone.

    his weaknesses: Streaky SET shooter….If he is on he will jack, but sometimes it hurts his play because he will not attack the rim…..Does not take over in situations like he should.

    what hurts his game: Jrue Holiday!

    part of his game that doesnt get enough credit: His ability to attack the rim being on 6’1” relentless when going to the cup.

    where his value can be felt the most: Who knows but I love him in Philly & there is no need to leave them to become a bench/role player elsewhere when he is already comfortable with the chemistry & city……Fan favorite for community service work he does.

    Summary: I have been in love with Lou from Day 1 in HS, especially with him being in my HS class of 05. I started covering him once I heard he had that 42inch vert about Fr. year of HS. The one game I had actually sat down to watch against IMG Academy out of Jacksonville, FL which was aired on ESPN2 at the time, he really impressed me. I seen a guy who was very athletic, not scared to attack the rim or go for boards with putbacks. Over time he has really improved as a shooter, but you would wonder why he is a set shooter when he jumps out the gym. Believe it or not he is the fan favorite in the city of Brotherly love when it comes to the community itself. Lou does all the little things for the community that really does not get viewed in the public eye. A lot of TRUE fans will be heartbroken along with myself if he no longer wears a Sixers uni. Personally I love the fit for him there although Holiday has took over fulltime.

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  • #592256
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    Jason Terry. 

    And Jrue Holliday does not hurt Lou Williams’ game at all; if anything he helps it by being able to cover the SG but still run the offense (Lou can’t do either of them.)

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  • #592286
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    Jason Terry. 

    And Jrue Holliday does not hurt Lou Williams’ game at all; if anything he helps it by being able to cover the SG but still run the offense (Lou can’t do either of them.)

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  • #591818
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    Jason Terry. 

    And Jrue Holliday does not hurt Lou Williams’ game at all; if anything he helps it by being able to cover the SG but still run the offense (Lou can’t do either of them.)

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  • #592263
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    http://www.ballislife.com/video/louwilliams51

    Here is a video of Lou Williams scoring 51 in Wallace Prather Pro-Am Championship game.

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    http://www.ballislife.com/video/louwilliams51

    Here is a video of Lou Williams scoring 51 in Wallace Prather Pro-Am Championship game.

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  • #591827
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    http://www.ballislife.com/video/louwilliams51

    Here is a video of Lou Williams scoring 51 in Wallace Prather Pro-Am Championship game.

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  • #592272
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    Kobe bryant !!!

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  • #592304
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    Kobe bryant !!!

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    Kobe bryant !!!

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  • #592275
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    Thank you for the video man…..Believe it or not Lou is my fav player in the league but everyone thinks Juice….I just don’t speak on Lou, because what is there to say.

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  • #592307
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    Thank you for the video man…..Believe it or not Lou is my fav player in the league but everyone thinks Juice….I just don’t speak on Lou, because what is there to say.

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  • #591839
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    Thank you for the video man…..Believe it or not Lou is my fav player in the league but everyone thinks Juice….I just don’t speak on Lou, because what is there to say.

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  • #592278
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    Can we get some breakdowns on why you like your guys, because it is nothing for you to say I like the guy, but why?

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  • #592310
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    Can we get some breakdowns on why you like your guys, because it is nothing for you to say I like the guy, but why?

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    Can we get some breakdowns on why you like your guys, because it is nothing for you to say I like the guy, but why?

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  • #592291
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    Jason Terry was easily the Mavs 2nd best player and he got hot in the first half of game 6 which allowed the Mavs to stay in the game and gave Dirk enough time to put the Heat away in the 4th quarter.  At times, Jet was the best player on the floor in the Finals and the Mavs’ Big Two (Dirk and Terry) was too much for Miami’s Big Three.

    Terry can score, hit the 3 and shows no fear.  He can also handle the ball some and is pesky on defense.  He’s basically an all-star coming off the bench.

     

    Honorable Mention: James Harden: He came off the bench last year and provided scoring and ball handling.  I think he should start this year since he facilitated the offense better than Westbrook.  But, off the bench James Harden is one of the game’s top sixth men.

    Lamar Odom: When Lamar Odom is on he can do everything and is one of the hardest players to stop.  He is a 6’10 point power forward who can slash, post up, and hit jumpers and hit the boards.  You can also run your offense through LO due to his ball handling and passing.  Sometimes he sleepwalks and is sometimes uninterested but when he focuses he is a very good player and one of the league’s best and most versatile players off the bench.  His two rings are proof of that.

    OJ Mayo: I really like the way he came off the bench at the end of last year and gave the Grizzlies it’s premier scoring threat off the bench.  He can score fairly well and is creative with the ball in his hands.  He is also a threat from long range when his shot is on.  I thought he played pretty good defense in the playoffs and showed his athleticism with a VERY NICE reverse dunk against the Spurs.  He’s a good passer and is a decent ball handler who can play either guard position as a 6th man.  Not sure he is in the mold of Vinnie Johnson, but I think he is more of a Joe Dumars type who is a good 2nd guard who can do some of everything and can really get hot.  Since Mike Conley is a rather small point guard I think the Grizzlies are better off leaving Tony Allen (big and strong even though he is only 6’4) and then bringing in OJ Mayo as the 6th man to bring scoring, mental toughness, passing, ball handling, and outside shooting.  OJ is an ideal 4th or 5th option on offense behind Z Bo and Gay, and Marc Gasol with Conley and Mayo getting their shots (whoever is hot gets more shots). 

    Power forwards off the bench: One thing I noticed in the playoffs is that all the playoff contenders had good power fowards off the bench who came in and rebounded, hustled, brought some energy and scored some points.  Darrell Arthur did it with the Grizzlies and also threw down some vicious dunks.  Nick Collison played very hard, drew charges, and put enough rebounds and points on the stat sheet to help put the Thunder over the top against the Grizzlies (I think Ibaka, Perkins, and Collison steadily wore down the Grizzlies front line and contained Z Bo).  Out east, Taj Gibson played very well off the bench playing with a lot of energy and seemed to outplay Boozer at times.  He gave the Bulls enough rebounds and scoring to be the major bench threat for the conference finalists.  Udonis Haslem returned from injury and played very well for the Heat off the bench, rebounding, hitting jumpers, and defending.  After the Bulls’ blowout victory in game 1 and Taj Gibson’s monster dunk on D-Wade, Haslem took over in game 2 and threw down some nifty dunks of his own.  Along with Chalmers, Haslem was the only real weapon off the bench for the majority of the playoffs and in the Finals.  … Brian Cardinal might not have scored much in the Finals, but he played some great minutes, layed the smack down on Dywane Wade, hit some 3 pointers, grabbed a rebound or two and made a couple of nice passes as an underrated contributor to the world champ Dallas Mavs.  His toughness, energy, smarts, and bulk made the Mavs even deeper as their depth and clutch shooting proved too much for the Miami Heat. 

    It seems like the winning combo for a great bench in the playoffs (and therefore a contending playoff team) was having a perimeter scorer then a complementary rebounding/defending power forward who can get a few points.  The Bulls had Gibson up front but lacked a true perimeter threat on offense which is one of the reasons they lost to the Heat (Chalmers and Haslem).  Out west the Thunder (Collison and James Harden) and the Grizzlies (Arthur and OJ Mayo) did well.  But the Mavs had Terry and JJ Barea off the bench along with Brian Cardinal at the 4 spot (with some help from Haywood/Mahinmi at the 5). The Mavs coupled their defense/hustle/rebounding/3 point shooting of BC with two of the best bench scorers in the playoffs (Barea and Terry) and took the title.

     

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  • #592322
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    Jason Terry was easily the Mavs 2nd best player and he got hot in the first half of game 6 which allowed the Mavs to stay in the game and gave Dirk enough time to put the Heat away in the 4th quarter.  At times, Jet was the best player on the floor in the Finals and the Mavs’ Big Two (Dirk and Terry) was too much for Miami’s Big Three.

    Terry can score, hit the 3 and shows no fear.  He can also handle the ball some and is pesky on defense.  He’s basically an all-star coming off the bench.

     

    Honorable Mention: James Harden: He came off the bench last year and provided scoring and ball handling.  I think he should start this year since he facilitated the offense better than Westbrook.  But, off the bench James Harden is one of the game’s top sixth men.

    Lamar Odom: When Lamar Odom is on he can do everything and is one of the hardest players to stop.  He is a 6’10 point power forward who can slash, post up, and hit jumpers and hit the boards.  You can also run your offense through LO due to his ball handling and passing.  Sometimes he sleepwalks and is sometimes uninterested but when he focuses he is a very good player and one of the league’s best and most versatile players off the bench.  His two rings are proof of that.

    OJ Mayo: I really like the way he came off the bench at the end of last year and gave the Grizzlies it’s premier scoring threat off the bench.  He can score fairly well and is creative with the ball in his hands.  He is also a threat from long range when his shot is on.  I thought he played pretty good defense in the playoffs and showed his athleticism with a VERY NICE reverse dunk against the Spurs.  He’s a good passer and is a decent ball handler who can play either guard position as a 6th man.  Not sure he is in the mold of Vinnie Johnson, but I think he is more of a Joe Dumars type who is a good 2nd guard who can do some of everything and can really get hot.  Since Mike Conley is a rather small point guard I think the Grizzlies are better off leaving Tony Allen (big and strong even though he is only 6’4) and then bringing in OJ Mayo as the 6th man to bring scoring, mental toughness, passing, ball handling, and outside shooting.  OJ is an ideal 4th or 5th option on offense behind Z Bo and Gay, and Marc Gasol with Conley and Mayo getting their shots (whoever is hot gets more shots). 

    Power forwards off the bench: One thing I noticed in the playoffs is that all the playoff contenders had good power fowards off the bench who came in and rebounded, hustled, brought some energy and scored some points.  Darrell Arthur did it with the Grizzlies and also threw down some vicious dunks.  Nick Collison played very hard, drew charges, and put enough rebounds and points on the stat sheet to help put the Thunder over the top against the Grizzlies (I think Ibaka, Perkins, and Collison steadily wore down the Grizzlies front line and contained Z Bo).  Out east, Taj Gibson played very well off the bench playing with a lot of energy and seemed to outplay Boozer at times.  He gave the Bulls enough rebounds and scoring to be the major bench threat for the conference finalists.  Udonis Haslem returned from injury and played very well for the Heat off the bench, rebounding, hitting jumpers, and defending.  After the Bulls’ blowout victory in game 1 and Taj Gibson’s monster dunk on D-Wade, Haslem took over in game 2 and threw down some nifty dunks of his own.  Along with Chalmers, Haslem was the only real weapon off the bench for the majority of the playoffs and in the Finals.  … Brian Cardinal might not have scored much in the Finals, but he played some great minutes, layed the smack down on Dywane Wade, hit some 3 pointers, grabbed a rebound or two and made a couple of nice passes as an underrated contributor to the world champ Dallas Mavs.  His toughness, energy, smarts, and bulk made the Mavs even deeper as their depth and clutch shooting proved too much for the Miami Heat. 

    It seems like the winning combo for a great bench in the playoffs (and therefore a contending playoff team) was having a perimeter scorer then a complementary rebounding/defending power forward who can get a few points.  The Bulls had Gibson up front but lacked a true perimeter threat on offense which is one of the reasons they lost to the Heat (Chalmers and Haslem).  Out west the Thunder (Collison and James Harden) and the Grizzlies (Arthur and OJ Mayo) did well.  But the Mavs had Terry and JJ Barea off the bench along with Brian Cardinal at the 4 spot (with some help from Haywood/Mahinmi at the 5). The Mavs coupled their defense/hustle/rebounding/3 point shooting of BC with two of the best bench scorers in the playoffs (Barea and Terry) and took the title.

     

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  • #591854
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    Jason Terry was easily the Mavs 2nd best player and he got hot in the first half of game 6 which allowed the Mavs to stay in the game and gave Dirk enough time to put the Heat away in the 4th quarter.  At times, Jet was the best player on the floor in the Finals and the Mavs’ Big Two (Dirk and Terry) was too much for Miami’s Big Three.

    Terry can score, hit the 3 and shows no fear.  He can also handle the ball some and is pesky on defense.  He’s basically an all-star coming off the bench.

     

    Honorable Mention: James Harden: He came off the bench last year and provided scoring and ball handling.  I think he should start this year since he facilitated the offense better than Westbrook.  But, off the bench James Harden is one of the game’s top sixth men.

    Lamar Odom: When Lamar Odom is on he can do everything and is one of the hardest players to stop.  He is a 6’10 point power forward who can slash, post up, and hit jumpers and hit the boards.  You can also run your offense through LO due to his ball handling and passing.  Sometimes he sleepwalks and is sometimes uninterested but when he focuses he is a very good player and one of the league’s best and most versatile players off the bench.  His two rings are proof of that.

    OJ Mayo: I really like the way he came off the bench at the end of last year and gave the Grizzlies it’s premier scoring threat off the bench.  He can score fairly well and is creative with the ball in his hands.  He is also a threat from long range when his shot is on.  I thought he played pretty good defense in the playoffs and showed his athleticism with a VERY NICE reverse dunk against the Spurs.  He’s a good passer and is a decent ball handler who can play either guard position as a 6th man.  Not sure he is in the mold of Vinnie Johnson, but I think he is more of a Joe Dumars type who is a good 2nd guard who can do some of everything and can really get hot.  Since Mike Conley is a rather small point guard I think the Grizzlies are better off leaving Tony Allen (big and strong even though he is only 6’4) and then bringing in OJ Mayo as the 6th man to bring scoring, mental toughness, passing, ball handling, and outside shooting.  OJ is an ideal 4th or 5th option on offense behind Z Bo and Gay, and Marc Gasol with Conley and Mayo getting their shots (whoever is hot gets more shots). 

    Power forwards off the bench: One thing I noticed in the playoffs is that all the playoff contenders had good power fowards off the bench who came in and rebounded, hustled, brought some energy and scored some points.  Darrell Arthur did it with the Grizzlies and also threw down some vicious dunks.  Nick Collison played very hard, drew charges, and put enough rebounds and points on the stat sheet to help put the Thunder over the top against the Grizzlies (I think Ibaka, Perkins, and Collison steadily wore down the Grizzlies front line and contained Z Bo).  Out east, Taj Gibson played very well off the bench playing with a lot of energy and seemed to outplay Boozer at times.  He gave the Bulls enough rebounds and scoring to be the major bench threat for the conference finalists.  Udonis Haslem returned from injury and played very well for the Heat off the bench, rebounding, hitting jumpers, and defending.  After the Bulls’ blowout victory in game 1 and Taj Gibson’s monster dunk on D-Wade, Haslem took over in game 2 and threw down some nifty dunks of his own.  Along with Chalmers, Haslem was the only real weapon off the bench for the majority of the playoffs and in the Finals.  … Brian Cardinal might not have scored much in the Finals, but he played some great minutes, layed the smack down on Dywane Wade, hit some 3 pointers, grabbed a rebound or two and made a couple of nice passes as an underrated contributor to the world champ Dallas Mavs.  His toughness, energy, smarts, and bulk made the Mavs even deeper as their depth and clutch shooting proved too much for the Miami Heat. 

    It seems like the winning combo for a great bench in the playoffs (and therefore a contending playoff team) was having a perimeter scorer then a complementary rebounding/defending power forward who can get a few points.  The Bulls had Gibson up front but lacked a true perimeter threat on offense which is one of the reasons they lost to the Heat (Chalmers and Haslem).  Out west the Thunder (Collison and James Harden) and the Grizzlies (Arthur and OJ Mayo) did well.  But the Mavs had Terry and JJ Barea off the bench along with Brian Cardinal at the 4 spot (with some help from Haywood/Mahinmi at the 5). The Mavs coupled their defense/hustle/rebounding/3 point shooting of BC with two of the best bench scorers in the playoffs (Barea and Terry) and took the title.

     

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  • #592293
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    Let me make myself clear….What I mean by Holiday hurts Lou is, because he will never be able to develope any PG skills that he may or may not have picked up on with him locking down the PG spot. Lou is or never will be a PG, but it would have not hurt him to learn how to become a PG. Experience is the best teaching.

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  • #592325
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    Let me make myself clear….What I mean by Holiday hurts Lou is, because he will never be able to develope any PG skills that he may or may not have picked up on with him locking down the PG spot. Lou is or never will be a PG, but it would have not hurt him to learn how to become a PG. Experience is the best teaching.

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  • #591857
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    Let me make myself clear….What I mean by Holiday hurts Lou is, because he will never be able to develope any PG skills that he may or may not have picked up on with him locking down the PG spot. Lou is or never will be a PG, but it would have not hurt him to learn how to become a PG. Experience is the best teaching.

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  • #592296
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    Harden’s easily my favorite 6th man. That’ll change really soon though…it’s really only a matter of time before he starts over Sefolosha.

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  • #592328
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    Harden’s easily my favorite 6th man. That’ll change really soon though…it’s really only a matter of time before he starts over Sefolosha.

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  • #591861
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    Harden’s easily my favorite 6th man. That’ll change really soon though…it’s really only a matter of time before he starts over Sefolosha.

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  • #591888
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    James Harden. Dude can ball, and I honestly think he could end up being better than Westbrook. I think for right now, we need to keep him on the bench so we can have some scoring in the 2nd unit, cuz there’s not much with Maynor, Cook, Collison, and Mohammed. Maynor’s a good backup and Cook can knock down 3s, but imagine if Harden started and Sefolosha played with the 2nd unit instead. Not many points would be scored. I think if he played on another team where he could be the 1st or 2nd option, he could average 20 a game and be an under-the-radar threat for a triple double

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  • #592323
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    James Harden. Dude can ball, and I honestly think he could end up being better than Westbrook. I think for right now, we need to keep him on the bench so we can have some scoring in the 2nd unit, cuz there’s not much with Maynor, Cook, Collison, and Mohammed. Maynor’s a good backup and Cook can knock down 3s, but imagine if Harden started and Sefolosha played with the 2nd unit instead. Not many points would be scored. I think if he played on another team where he could be the 1st or 2nd option, he could average 20 a game and be an under-the-radar threat for a triple double

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  • #592355
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    James Harden. Dude can ball, and I honestly think he could end up being better than Westbrook. I think for right now, we need to keep him on the bench so we can have some scoring in the 2nd unit, cuz there’s not much with Maynor, Cook, Collison, and Mohammed. Maynor’s a good backup and Cook can knock down 3s, but imagine if Harden started and Sefolosha played with the 2nd unit instead. Not many points would be scored. I think if he played on another team where he could be the 1st or 2nd option, he could average 20 a game and be an under-the-radar threat for a triple double

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  • #591900
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    Jamal Crawford is my fav 6th man. The guy has the best handles for any player that is atleast 6’5. He’s an electric scorer capable of going for 50pts when hot.

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  • #592335
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    Jamal Crawford is my fav 6th man. The guy has the best handles for any player that is atleast 6’5. He’s an electric scorer capable of going for 50pts when hot.

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  • #592368
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    Jamal Crawford is my fav 6th man. The guy has the best handles for any player that is atleast 6’5. He’s an electric scorer capable of going for 50pts when hot.

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  • #592386
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    Orange Juice

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  • #591917
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    Orange Juice

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  • #592353
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    Orange Juice

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  • #592392
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    SubZero,

    I thought Harden did a good job running the Thunder and he could be the third
    guy of an OKC Big 3. He offers a lot of balance to the starters and gives them a 3rd
    scorer. Hopefully Reggie Jackson can score for them off the bench and will allow Harden
    to start. If not they should probably still start Harden and use their bench to concentrate on
    defense with Thabo, Collison, and Mohammed. I like Maynor and if Cook can hit 3’s the Bench should be able
    to maintain the lead and keep the Thunder in the game.

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  • #591924
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    SubZero,

    I thought Harden did a good job running the Thunder and he could be the third
    guy of an OKC Big 3. He offers a lot of balance to the starters and gives them a 3rd
    scorer. Hopefully Reggie Jackson can score for them off the bench and will allow Harden
    to start. If not they should probably still start Harden and use their bench to concentrate on
    defense with Thabo, Collison, and Mohammed. I like Maynor and if Cook can hit 3’s the Bench should be able
    to maintain the lead and keep the Thunder in the game.

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  • #592359
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    SubZero,

    I thought Harden did a good job running the Thunder and he could be the third
    guy of an OKC Big 3. He offers a lot of balance to the starters and gives them a 3rd
    scorer. Hopefully Reggie Jackson can score for them off the bench and will allow Harden
    to start. If not they should probably still start Harden and use their bench to concentrate on
    defense with Thabo, Collison, and Mohammed. I like Maynor and if Cook can hit 3’s the Bench should be able
    to maintain the lead and keep the Thunder in the game.

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  • #592396
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     Yeah I like Crawford ability to fill it up quickly off the bench. He’s a great scorer but I think he is also somewhat of an underrated passer as well…. He’s the best guard off the bench in the NBA and when he’s into it, he even plays decent on-ball defense as well. If I’m not mistaken he’s also one of only four players to score 50 points for four different teams.

    As far as big men go, Lamar Odom is the best off the bench because of his amazing versatility. Last year was his most offensively-efficient season as a pro percentages wise.

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  • #591927
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     Yeah I like Crawford ability to fill it up quickly off the bench. He’s a great scorer but I think he is also somewhat of an underrated passer as well…. He’s the best guard off the bench in the NBA and when he’s into it, he even plays decent on-ball defense as well. If I’m not mistaken he’s also one of only four players to score 50 points for four different teams.

    As far as big men go, Lamar Odom is the best off the bench because of his amazing versatility. Last year was his most offensively-efficient season as a pro percentages wise.

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  • #592362
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     Yeah I like Crawford ability to fill it up quickly off the bench. He’s a great scorer but I think he is also somewhat of an underrated passer as well…. He’s the best guard off the bench in the NBA and when he’s into it, he even plays decent on-ball defense as well. If I’m not mistaken he’s also one of only four players to score 50 points for four different teams.

    As far as big men go, Lamar Odom is the best off the bench because of his amazing versatility. Last year was his most offensively-efficient season as a pro percentages wise.

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  • #592408
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    Right now i gotta go with JET, but am really excited to see what George Hill will bring to the Pacers. Hopefully 14-16ppg and a lot of good defense.

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  • #591939
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    Right now i gotta go with JET, but am really excited to see what George Hill will bring to the Pacers. Hopefully 14-16ppg and a lot of good defense.

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  • #592373
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    Right now i gotta go with JET, but am really excited to see what George Hill will bring to the Pacers. Hopefully 14-16ppg and a lot of good defense.

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  • #592411
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    Understood.  

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  • #591942
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    Understood.  

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  • #592376
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    Understood.  

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