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- Posted on: Fri, 08/15/2014 - 11:24pm #57790
valentineI’m interested in your thoughts regarding Utah’s backcourt.
I have seen Exum play about 10 or so games since the draft, and I believe there is no doubt that he’s a true PG. He is not a good SG, and he has no interest in playing SG.
I also believe that whilst he’s still adjusting to the new level of competition, he’s got a brighter future than Trey Burke who I doubt will ever be a top 15 PG in a stacked league.
Keep in mind Utah is in no rush to make a decision, but my advice to the Jazz would be to develop Exum at PG, Alec Burks at SG, Hayward at SF and Trey Burks coming off the bench.
What would you do?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 08/15/2014 - 11:48pm #945208
Anton123ParticipantI think Exum and Burke fit in well together. Defensively Dante will guard SGs and Trey will guard PGs. Offensively Burke will play off the ball more as he is a very good shooter. Sometimes Burke can feed Dante on cuts and alley-oops, which he is perfectly capable of doing.
I think Alec Burks actually doesn’t fit with Exum that well as he’s a poor shooter and excells at creating for himself off the dribble.
0- Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 8:04am #945238
Magic JordanParticipantBurks had a better 3% by a few points and Burks had a better fg% than Burke and that one wasn’t even close. Granted Trey attempted more 3’s but I attribute that to more the way Burks was used, as creating off the dribble for the 2nd unit. I don’t see what measure you can say that Burke is a "very good" shooter while saying Burks is a poor shooter? Best case it is a wash, but I peg Burks as the better shooter.
I personally think Trey should be the one on the bench as a stablizing 2nd unit PG. I like the combination of size and scoring ability of Exum and Burks playing together.
0- Posted on: Sun, 08/17/2014 - 3:11am #945456
Anton123ParticipantWell, at the very least, Burke made 111 threes in his rookie year and Burks has made 98 in his NBA career. I’m sure his percentages will go up, though I admit it was a bit of a stretch to call him a very good shooter right now. He’s a better shooter than Burks though, certainly.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/17/2014 - 3:11am #945322
Anton123ParticipantWell, at the very least, Burke made 111 threes in his rookie year and Burks has made 98 in his NBA career. I’m sure his percentages will go up, though I admit it was a bit of a stretch to call him a very good shooter right now. He’s a better shooter than Burks though, certainly.
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 8:04am #945372
Magic JordanParticipantBurks had a better 3% by a few points and Burks had a better fg% than Burke and that one wasn’t even close. Granted Trey attempted more 3’s but I attribute that to more the way Burks was used, as creating off the dribble for the 2nd unit. I don’t see what measure you can say that Burke is a "very good" shooter while saying Burks is a poor shooter? Best case it is a wash, but I peg Burks as the better shooter.
I personally think Trey should be the one on the bench as a stablizing 2nd unit PG. I like the combination of size and scoring ability of Exum and Burks playing together.
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- Posted on: Fri, 08/15/2014 - 11:48pm #945343
Anton123ParticipantI think Exum and Burke fit in well together. Defensively Dante will guard SGs and Trey will guard PGs. Offensively Burke will play off the ball more as he is a very good shooter. Sometimes Burke can feed Dante on cuts and alley-oops, which he is perfectly capable of doing.
I think Alec Burks actually doesn’t fit with Exum that well as he’s a poor shooter and excells at creating for himself off the dribble.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 1:10am #945216
benny15Participanti’d probably develop exum without a defined position. i think we can all agree his potential is immense. but we also know that he’s lacking in both back-court positions. so at this point, i would just work on him developing his over-all game and see then if it would be better as a 1 or a 2. i think its way too early in his career to define his position given the long road he has to hit his full potential.
having said thta, id still start trey burke at the point, let dante come of the bench and have a chance play at either back court position. id play him beside burke at times and next to burks at others. i might even let him play alongside both if depending on match ups or how he develops physically.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 1:10am #945351
benny15Participanti’d probably develop exum without a defined position. i think we can all agree his potential is immense. but we also know that he’s lacking in both back-court positions. so at this point, i would just work on him developing his over-all game and see then if it would be better as a 1 or a 2. i think its way too early in his career to define his position given the long road he has to hit his full potential.
having said thta, id still start trey burke at the point, let dante come of the bench and have a chance play at either back court position. id play him beside burke at times and next to burks at others. i might even let him play alongside both if depending on match ups or how he develops physically.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 4:41am #945229
ExumInfernoParticipantThomas and Dumars, Johnson and Ainge, it can work when two guards form a good combination even though which is the point guard and which is the shooting guard is hard to tell.
Burke wants to score like Isiah Thomas, so if Exum can improve his shot and his defense he can by the Dumars type of player there.
Utah can push the ball, Utah won’t be trapped by full court pressure, with two passers/ball-handlers on the court they will have options. Burks off the bench completes the three guard rotation well.
It just depends on whether they can keep everyone around and devleop their young team, although if I was Utah I would try to have a backcourt of Exum at the point and Hayward at shooting guard.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 4:41am #945362
ExumInfernoParticipantThomas and Dumars, Johnson and Ainge, it can work when two guards form a good combination even though which is the point guard and which is the shooting guard is hard to tell.
Burke wants to score like Isiah Thomas, so if Exum can improve his shot and his defense he can by the Dumars type of player there.
Utah can push the ball, Utah won’t be trapped by full court pressure, with two passers/ball-handlers on the court they will have options. Burks off the bench completes the three guard rotation well.
It just depends on whether they can keep everyone around and devleop their young team, although if I was Utah I would try to have a backcourt of Exum at the point and Hayward at shooting guard.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 9:57am #945250
MopgrassParticipantI was generally underwhelmed by Burke until I realized the team started winning games after he showed up. I’m worried about his FG% because he has trouble at the rack. Exum is already better. He’ll take some time to get it right, but he’s a much better prospect and with them having no shot at playoffs, they might as well throw the bigger prospect out there on Day 1.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 9:57am #945385
MopgrassParticipantI was generally underwhelmed by Burke until I realized the team started winning games after he showed up. I’m worried about his FG% because he has trouble at the rack. Exum is already better. He’ll take some time to get it right, but he’s a much better prospect and with them having no shot at playoffs, they might as well throw the bigger prospect out there on Day 1.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 2:43pm #945266
Captain LParticipantI agree that Exum is a point guard and not a SG, he shows now interest in the SG position in fact he shows disinterest and stands around alot while playing the 2. I hope the Jazz see the potential of Exum at the one and allow him to play there as much as possible. I would love to see the Jazz trade Burke but I doubt it will happen very soon.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the games you saw Exum play, how did he do???
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 2:43pm #945401
Captain LParticipantI agree that Exum is a point guard and not a SG, he shows now interest in the SG position in fact he shows disinterest and stands around alot while playing the 2. I hope the Jazz see the potential of Exum at the one and allow him to play there as much as possible. I would love to see the Jazz trade Burke but I doubt it will happen very soon.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the games you saw Exum play, how did he do???
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 7:41pm #945422
BiggysmallsParticipantlack of great SGs around the league means they can play together. Not a lot of BIG SGs around the league either. Post up 2’s like Kobe are essentially extinct and most SGs are either good on ball, or off, not both.
I agree with the guy who said they should play together and let Burks be the 6th man type. So many teams rely too much on 1 guy to create all the offense, Utah could have a really dynamic perimeter of Burke, Exum and Hayward who can all handle the ball and create for each other. In theory could make it very hard to defend because you can’t really "hide" a weak defender on a guy who is going to camp in the corner.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/16/2014 - 7:41pm #945289
BiggysmallsParticipantlack of great SGs around the league means they can play together. Not a lot of BIG SGs around the league either. Post up 2’s like Kobe are essentially extinct and most SGs are either good on ball, or off, not both.
I agree with the guy who said they should play together and let Burks be the 6th man type. So many teams rely too much on 1 guy to create all the offense, Utah could have a really dynamic perimeter of Burke, Exum and Hayward who can all handle the ball and create for each other. In theory could make it very hard to defend because you can’t really "hide" a weak defender on a guy who is going to camp in the corner.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/17/2014 - 9:05am #945482
HitsterParticipantA fair few teams are almost playing two PG’s in the backcourt – Phoenix did so last year and with Boston drafting Smart then they may pair him and Rondo at least initially until Rondo’s future is decided. If one of the guys in these combos has the size to guard SG’s then it isn’t really an issue.
As Biggy rightly states above there is a lack of great true SG’s currently in the NBA so teams will look at playing these type of combos more as it gives them two ball carrying options and a lot of PG’s have good 3 point ranges so it gives teams outside options too.
I’ll be interested to see how Utah do line up as they will have this issue to sort as well as can Favours and Kanter play together.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/17/2014 - 9:05am #945348
HitsterParticipantA fair few teams are almost playing two PG’s in the backcourt – Phoenix did so last year and with Boston drafting Smart then they may pair him and Rondo at least initially until Rondo’s future is decided. If one of the guys in these combos has the size to guard SG’s then it isn’t really an issue.
As Biggy rightly states above there is a lack of great true SG’s currently in the NBA so teams will look at playing these type of combos more as it gives them two ball carrying options and a lot of PG’s have good 3 point ranges so it gives teams outside options too.
I’ll be interested to see how Utah do line up as they will have this issue to sort as well as can Favours and Kanter play together.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/17/2014 - 9:05am #945484
HitsterParticipantA fair few teams are almost playing two PG’s in the backcourt – Phoenix did so last year and with Boston drafting Smart then they may pair him and Rondo at least initially until Rondo’s future is decided. If one of the guys in these combos has the size to guard SG’s then it isn’t really an issue.
As Biggy rightly states above there is a lack of great true SG’s currently in the NBA so teams will look at playing these type of combos more as it gives them two ball carrying options and a lot of PG’s have good 3 point ranges so it gives teams outside options too.
I’ll be interested to see how Utah do line up as they will have this issue to sort as well as can Favours and Kanter play together.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/17/2014 - 9:05am #945350
HitsterParticipantA fair few teams are almost playing two PG’s in the backcourt – Phoenix did so last year and with Boston drafting Smart then they may pair him and Rondo at least initially until Rondo’s future is decided. If one of the guys in these combos has the size to guard SG’s then it isn’t really an issue.
As Biggy rightly states above there is a lack of great true SG’s currently in the NBA so teams will look at playing these type of combos more as it gives them two ball carrying options and a lot of PG’s have good 3 point ranges so it gives teams outside options too.
I’ll be interested to see how Utah do line up as they will have this issue to sort as well as can Favours and Kanter play together.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 08/19/2014 - 5:31pm #945693
TheLastWordParticipantA total non issue in todays NBA. Elite defenses easily shut down traditional one ball handler offenses. You need two or three points off attack to break the rotations.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 08/19/2014 - 5:31pm #945826
TheLastWordParticipantA total non issue in todays NBA. Elite defenses easily shut down traditional one ball handler offenses. You need two or three points off attack to break the rotations.
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