Evan Turner; DNP
i don't understand you guys..2007draft should have been great but it wasn't.. 2008 weak full of freshmen now looks like on of the betters..this draft class was named as a veeery deep because of a lot of bigs plus Aminu Turner Johnson George Henry..now because they doesn't get a lot PT they are bad??
I couldn't agree more! Some of you sound really ignorant. Evan Turner is a rookie! Do you expect him to be on Kobe's level already? Give the kid some time. He is in a new system where he isn't the focal point of the offense, just let him work through his struggle and learn the game properly and he will be fine.
Turner and Evans in the same backcourt? 2 ball dominant players..That will be bad,becuz neither guy are great shooters...
Cleveland might be a good fit..Playing along side a scoring point like Mo Williams that can shoot the ball ..Will be good for him...
Turner to Cleveland makes a lot of sense. Also this draft is still in the early stages because Greg Monroe is just now geting and opportunity to play. Bledsoe looks like he is a future starter once Baron is gone or returns to the bench. Cousins is dominating. Favors may take another year but he could be one of the best pf in the league soon. Paul George is behind too many people in Indiana but he could take off with the right minutes. Stephenson needs a chance of team. Avery Bradley is going to show people he is better than they see right now once he get some seasoning. You have a lot of established teams that can not wait for a rookie to grow and some great talents need time to grow. Also James Anderson is hurt but he showed he could ball. Wesley Johnson has look both bad an good
This is only his rookie season please cut him some slack he is not going to be an All-Star over night.
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Apparently he's not going to be a half decent starter overnight either
Turner was drafted to play shooting guard, and he can't shoot, a terrible mix. He doesn't have the athletic ability to blow by guys on a consistent basis either. I'm not sold on him learning how to shoot either, it is something you learn how to do in high school and college, not the NBA. At this time he has a lot of bad habits in his shot that will be very difficult to change.
Evan Turner should be getting playing time. I think they should go Williams-Meeks-Turner- Young as the first 4 off the bench.
Holiday is not a great fit next to him and Iggy KILLS him. I think it's just holding on and seeing different rotations. Unfortunate for Turner but I expect him to play in the next couple games.
I see it like this if Iggy is gone......Keep Holiday @ the 1 because he is a floor general Meeks at the 2 he is a shooter Young at the 3replacing Iggy Brand at the 4 Speights at the 5. As for Williams and Turner you have them come in off the bench as your 2nd unit backcourt tandem. Williams is a SPARK off the bench he fills the chart up instantly. Turner should be in the role of Penny be more of a distributor he is a 6'7'' G who can pass well so utilize it.
Too early to call it,but he does not have the quickness to blow past NBA guys his size. College 6ft6 to 6ft8 guys are not as athletic as NBA guys so guys that we think are going to be blowing past NBA guys are not going to do it regulary unless they are extremely quick. He must improve his jump shot to open up his game. I have said I believe he is a role player and he needs to buil himself into that.
You're right, he needs to think of himself as a role player, and not the star he was in college. Once he figures that out, it will help his confidence. He doesn't have the athletic ability or the basketball skills to be a guy who plays with the ball in his hand. He is not a G Hill when he first came into the league, Hill could blow pass people and make players around him good, Turner doesn't have the skills or ability to do that. He needs to drop his ego and help the team.
"Turner was drafted to play shooting guard, and he can't shoot, a terrible mix. He doesn't have the athletic ability to blow by guys on a consistent basis either. I'm not sold on him learning how to shoot either, it is something you learn how to do in high school and college, not the NBA. At this time he has a lot of bad habits in his shot that will be very difficult to change."
Yes, it isn't like Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Scottie Pippern, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Jason Kidd, and Derrick Rose learned to shoot while in the NBA.
BTPH
Jordan, Wade, James, Pippen, Rose, Kidd, Johnson were/are incredable athletes. They were able to drive the lane with their tremondous strength, speed, and quickness.
Evan Turner isn't as physically nor athletically gifted as they were. It's Turner's rookie year, he needs to play to learn the system and NBA.
"Yes, it isn't like Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Scottie Pippern, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Jason Kidd, and Derrick Rose learned to shoot while in the NBA. "
You're crazy to mention those names in the same breath as Evan Turner, most of those guys didn't spend three years in college, and had much better natural strokes then Evan Turner. He has an extremly akward shot that he has been shooting for years, he is not going to suddenly turn around and become a good shooter. We are talking about a guy who lost minutes to Jody Meeks! These Turner supporters make me sick, I'm not going to give up on him already, though does hurt when a lot of rookies picked behind him, and were supposed to be "projects" are balling out of control. I'm not going to give a 22 year old who played three years in college and picked second in the draft 5 years to "get better" either.
Give him some time ppl like Kobe and Tmac did not have the strongest rookie years come on
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They might not have had the strongest rookie years but when Kobe was Evan Turner's age he averaged 28.5 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 5.0 APG and 1.7 SPG. And when TMac was his age he put up 26.8 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 4.6 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1.5 BPG.
Let's stop kidding ourselves by comparing Turner to those guys. He's not an 18 year old straight out of HS. He's a 22 year old coming off a college season where he was named national player of the year. He should not be riding the bench on a team like the Sixers.
He is getting his time, I'm not out to crucifying him, but lets be honest about his play. He didn't look good in the summer league, he didn't look good in the preseason, and he hasn't looked good at all the first quater of the season. You want me to lie and say everything is fine and dandy with him? I've watched all but one game this season, and he has been disappointing.
"BTPH
Jordan, Wade, James, Pippen, Rose, Kidd, Johnson were/are incredable athletes. They were able to drive the lane with their tremondous strength, speed, and quickness.
Evan Turner isn't as physically nor athletically gifted as they were. It's Turner's rookie year, he needs to play to learn the system and NBA."
What does that have to do with their ability to learn to shoot while in the NBA?
"You're crazy to mention those names in the same breath as Evan Turner, most of those guys didn't spend three years in college, and had much better natural strokes then Evan Turner. He has an extremly akward shot that he has been shooting for years, he is not going to suddenly turn around and become a good shooter. We are talking about a guy who lost minutes to Jody Meeks! These Turner supporters make me sick, I'm not going to give up on him already, though does hurt when a lot of rookies picked behind him, and were supposed to be "projects" are balling out of control. I'm not going to give a 22 year old who played three years in college and picked second in the draft 5 years to "get better" either."
Joakim Noah lost minutes as a rookie to Aaron Gray. Deron Williams lost minutes to Milt Palacio. How has it worked out for them?
Have you seen the shots of Wade, Magic, Pippen, LeBron, and Kidd when they entered the league?
Kidd and Magic were point guards, and mostly played in an era when point guards weren't expected to be scorers. They also had the ability to make the players around them good. Pippen wasn't a strong shooter, but he had great athletic ability, played good D, and could fill a stat sheet. Lebron and Wade were always better shooters then Turner, they are also much better athletes, which allowed them to not have to solely depend on jumpers. Almost everyone I've talked to have noted how akward and bad a shooter Turner is. Turner is playing passive, if he was busting his hump he would be getting more time. People were calling for Spencer Hawe's head at the beginning of the season but he has busted his ass, and been putting up good numbers. As I type this Turner just bricked another 16 footer, but atleast his getting some run.
The act of learning to shoot was not a result of their athleticism. They learned to shoot because they worked at it. Evan Turner is a rookie making his first round through the NBA. If he doesn't identify and work on what he needs, then call him a bust. A month and a half into an NBA career is not a sample size.
He is not a bust, he is just playing bad at the moment. He needs to find his niche in the league. He doesn't have the skills at the moment to play like he did in college. He got some run in the 1st half, he went 1-4 from the field missing badly on all three jumpers, and grabbed 2 or 3 boards. This has been an ugly game for both teams so far, lot of turnovers, both teams shooting at or below 35% at the half. The Magic are playing with a depleted roster with the trades today. This is the first game of an eight game road trip for the Sixers, the longest of the season, so they need this game.
Age doesn't have anything to do with comparing those guys to them. I always find it laughable when people compare pros by age. I don't see Turner as comparable to T-Mac or Kobe, but that "Kobe averaged 28 ppg yadda yadda yadda when he was 22" argument is silly. Kobe had been practicing against Eddie Jones and other pros for 5 years by that time. That can't be discredited. Evan Turner is a rookie in his 1st 2 months of NBA action. Let him adjust, and not use stupid logic when discussing his upside.
GIVE THE MAN TIME PEOPLE!!!!!!! Like someone else said d-will lost pt to milt palcio in his first yr for god sakes, and he was a guy in which ppll questioned his athleitc ability as well... not saying turner is going to start to put guys on posters anytime soon, but he of course needs to adjust to the nba game... ill be honest tho i have never said this on this site, but a lot of you guys were expecting turner to be the savior of the 76ers or sumthin when he got drafted...gary payton also drafted second overall didnt average even 10 ppg in his first two seasons.. not saying once again that turner will turn out to be a superstar player... but give him time, hes still 22, very young
Against the Lakers, the former NCAA Player of the Year and 2nd Overall pick the same amount of minutes against me and you.
ZERO.
Yeah, he's been playing 14mpg in December.. Poor kid but realistically, Lou Will, Thad Young, Meeks and even Nocioni is playing better than Turner this season.