Evan Turner and Lou Williams
Had big games for us today!! Great win by Sixers... Knicks r bad, but you cant take away how good Et as been playing, he had 24 and 15... Great rebounding guard... Mayb the best in the Nba not named Rondo. Sweet Lou also was great, he can create his own shot whenever. Iggy and Jrue look awful, not really Iggy, but Jrue. Im hearing rumors about a Bogut for Jrue swap, thats just what im hearing.... Go Sixers. We found our star in Et, and Lou and Thad provides great scoring off bench
Finally Da Villain get's his redemption. He's been brimming with his talents ready to explode since he arrived in Philly and now he's finally getting his chance it just took a losing streak to give it to him. I'm not going to declare him the next A.I. or anything but his talent is evident. He's the best rebounding guard the league has seen since Jason Kidd was in his prime and might even be better. He looks like he can average a double double.
What's up with the Knicks and leaving Melo and Amare on the bench during the 4th quarter? If they don't wanna use Melo we're take him.
I posted in forum about George Turner Hayward a while ago with most picking George, but man I think Turner maybe the guy to superstardom out of the 3. Tough for me to say as Pacers/George fan.
Yeah Evan isnt as quick as kidd, but has the Iq... Sixers are dangerous..
two trades that might happen this week for us
Iguodala to Gs for Tyler, Dorrel and a 1st round Pick- This will only happen for 1 reason, shooting and if Hawes is out for season. We could groom Tyler and we get a soild shooter in Dorrel because Klay Thompson is emerging over there, they get Iggy who they need and they take him off our hands, he only has two years left on contract and with Et playing great, idk if our new Mangagement (Josh Harris) wants Iggy here or thinks he can play with evan. cjance of happening 40%
Jrue for Bogut- Im hearing about this trade, idk if we should do it, Bogut is injury prone, but when healthy is a top 3 Center. Jrue is only 21 and i think he is gonna be really good wt him and Et in the backcourt- chance of Happening 15%
Turner's confidence is through the roof right now and he looks comfortable.
He's not thinking too much or second guessing himself. He's been very decisive.
Melo's defense is really really bad right now
The Knicks seem to be on another slide and were shooting well over 10% lower than the 76ers. Evan Turner really seems to have stepped up since he was given a starting birth and Coach Collins has got his team really playing well again since the All Star break.
Evan Turner's last 3 games:
22ppg 12rpg 3.3apg in 3 Wins....That's a hell of a 3 game stretch.
I have to believe that Evan Turner's latest success will continue, his skills combined with newfound confidence is showing us a glimpse of what he is capable of. If Philly keeps his PT steady there's no reason for him to not be able to keep it up..
Finally he got the chance that he deserved. I think they should build around him. With all the love to Iguodala in my ideal scenario the 76ers trade him and probably their 1 round pick for either Granger or Gay. They need more outside shooting and these players can do it so I think they would be better for this team than Iggy. The second trade I would wish to happen is 76ers trading either Jrue or Lou for Kanter or Favors. The Jazz are not giving them the minutes that they need to develop and they desperetly need a point guard this would work well for both teams. I think that when Favors gets minutes we can see the same story as we are seeing now from Evan Turner
Man, I said this before and I will say it again, far as just OFFENSE goes Lou Will is one of the best offensive players in the NBA hands down.
Could they fetch Dwight Howard with Jrue Holiday, Iggy, Vuicvec, and a pick?
doubt dwight howard would re-sign with philly. that's a lot to give up for a rental superstar.
doubt dwight howard would re-sign with philly. that's a lot to give up for a rental superstar.
If I'm Otis Smith I'm taking this package without any doubt.
what about trading turner for like a derrick favors and maybe a pick?
i know he's a good player and really coming on, but he and iggy are basically the same guy. philly needs to get bigger, it might work for both teams cause favors doesn't get to play enough in utah. ... but on this recent stretch, they might not want to move turner at all, that's fine ... but they have to do something to get bigger i think.
as is though, with turner and iggy playing together ... they can really lock down on some wings defensively!
Turner honestly just needs to fine tune everything and learn how to shoot. He and Iggy would actually be a terrific 2/3 combo. If they could get Dwight for Lou,Thad,Vucevic, and multi firsts, that could be insane. Hell switch Jrue and Lou and we're still talking a beastly team IMO. Not sure if he's destinned for superstardom as 22,12,3 is pretty insane to keep up for a 2/3, but he's definitely a starter in this league for years. Definitely more than the Aaron Mckie type I had him pegged as earlier in the season. Now it's on Collins to find the minutes for the kid.
Turner is probably untouchable right now. I agree that Sixers need to get a little bit bigger and in my opinion this kind of trade would benefit both teams and is more possible than turner for favors.
Turner is a superstar now.
He's shooting 39% since the All Star break.
Philly is one more good player from being title contenders, in my opinion Dwight would be perfect for them. if I were Dwight, that's where I'm going, not sure if they have the cap though?
With all the talk about Iggy maybe being traded how about a deal for Iggy and Pau Gasol?
Iggy would be a great 2nd or 3rd star on the Lakers team and with his durability would be a great running mate for Kobe. Whilst Gasol gives Philly's frontcourt a real touch of class and with only a couple of years on his deal fits in well alongside Brand.
Personally I could not see this trade happening pre-deadline but could be an option maybe this summer.
Iggy for Pau, no way. Pau is still considered elite for his position and Iggy is simply considered a good starter. If the players were more similar in talent level, I agree that the skills compliment the various teams well. Obviously the Lakers have a huge whole at Small Forward and they would still have a post presence in Bynum even without Pau. Besides, Kobe shoots 30 times a game, so some of Pau's offense is wasted every night. Pau, on the other hand, would immediately become the Sixer's best player and Iggy leaving would free up space for Turner and Young. It is a win for both teams, except that Pau is just so much better than Iggy.
I don't think the Lakers are eager to give up Gasol. Yea, he was almost traded this year, but it was for arguably the best point guard in the NBA.
The Lakers won't give Gasol up for just a good starter.
I was not suggesting an Iggy for Pau deal straight up although Iggy is over 3 years younger and was an All Star this year when was not and his contract is worth $9 million less over the next two years combined. The Lakers would perhaps look for some sort of sweetner although it would help to reduce their possible luxury tax level going forward.
The idea is that this deal might help the Lakers facilitate a possible Dwight deal down the line and it moves Gasol to an Eastern team where he would still be an elite big man and he goes to a winning team with upside so he is happy, Philly and Coach Collins have their elite big man and a guy who can give them more ppg than anyone on their roster currently does.
I don't know why you get sooooo much credit for your basketball knowledge when you make statements like that...
Iggy is an All Star, and he's one of the very few players that can score 15 ppg and add 5 plus rebounds and assists per game for the entire season, he's very durable and doesn't take nights off(Looking at you Pau)...And he is one of the very best perimeter defenders in the NBA, he's also a very versitile one at that, he can guard the best players on a nightly bases, also he can make his man work on D too...
Name me Five better All Around players than Iggy (Offense/Defense/Passing/Durability/Charater)...Really IB, I'll wait...
On to trade talks, Holiday/Turner and Iggy are all untouchable, I would put Thad in that same category...Lou Williams/Jodi Meeks/Spencer Hawes and everyone else can go...
Turner will become a very good Sg in The NBA, this is just the beggining, If he can develope into that 20 Plus point scorer next to Iggy and Holiday, then The Sixers could be the Next Great Contender...Turner has some of the best potential in The NBA, he could become The Eastern Conference's best Shooting Guard next to Wade(and Wade will not be around forever)...He can easily become what Joe Johnson was at his peak, and it's taking him a shorter time to deveolp fully, Joe bounced around to Boston and Phoenix before becoming the Guy...Turner has the chance to be the Man by the start of his 3rd season, all that and people were claiming he was a Bust...
Yeah I thought the Iggy for Pau deal sounded outrageous at first because one's an All Star and the other isn't then I realized something....Iggy is the All Star. Iggy is the perfect compliment for Kobe and it would truly be Jordan-Pippen like in today's league because of Iggy's lockdown defense and passing ability. He might actually benefit Kobe more at this point then Pau by providing Kobe with an athletic wing help which eases his burden on the perimeter. The Lakers also don't have to worry about getting a PG as bad either.
But i still think it would take slightly more then Iggy so even tho I think Vucevic got a ton of potential I wouldn't mind throwing him in a deal for Pau and sending him back to Southern Cal. The Sixers if they thru is Lou Williams, or Thad Young could clearly offer the Lakers a package that would benefit them by making them younger, deeper, and more athletic which is everything they need.
And Turner and Iggy do compliment each other but I just don't like the pairing the same way i don't like the Wade-James pairing, they play too similar. I still don't understand why we basically traded Mo Speights for Xavier Henry then traded Henry for two 2nd round picks. Henry could of been groomed to be the perfect compliment for Turner on the wing.
Besides being 7 feet tall, what does Pau really bring that Iggy couldn't to the Lakers...The Lakers have a very legit Big man in Bynum and Kobe needs some help dfending the best players in the NBA on a nightly bases...
I wouldn't trade Iggy to the Lakers simply because it would be the biggest move THEY could make...If you put Iggy and Brand on that LA Team with Kobe and Bynum you'd have a very strong Champioonship Contender...The Sixers however don't need to make any move unless it's for a Star(and sorry guys Pau is not a Star, at least anymore)
We are better off keeping the Turner and Iggy combo and hoping that Turner becomes a Poor man's MJ...
Where did you hear that stupid Jrue for Bogut rumor?
^^^LOL i was thinking the same thing..makes no sense on both sides...my senses are telling me he made it up....
I don't see why Philly rocks the boat with a major trade this year when they can amnesty Brand in the offseason and fix their needs. Addition by subtraction.
Coach Collins and Rod Thorn are a very experienced duo so I would feel they would only make moves to take the team forward and not to prolong the rebuilding process. Philly do perhaps need extra frontcourt presence especially as Speights hasn't been replaced and Brand is now at the veteran stage. But with Iggy, Holliday, Turner and Williams they have great options at 1 to 3 long term and as I've said before any move for Iggy should only be made to bring in a quality big man.
I've been on the PAu for Iggy bandwagon for quite some time. Gasol's trade value isn't what it once was, and it isn't getting any better. IMO, while the Lakers may not be so high on some of the deals they've been offered, ultimately, if they aren't careful, they may find themselves ultimately having to accept worse. Anyone else remember Shaq? Just after the 03 season I was firmly against keeping him, in fact I wanted to use him to either get younger Amare/Johnson/picks or go directly for the kill and go after KG. The Lakeshow waited one year too long and ultimately had to take back a garbage deal that was headlined by LAMAR FREAKIN ODOM. IMO, LAL needs to get after it while the gettin is good. Only thing is, knowing my Lakers, they simply won't do this. The buss family refuses to ever be bent over again after the Shaq deal, but at the same time won't allow any leverage at all for the other teams involved.
Realistically there are other smaller deals available that could fill in nicely as needed IMO that wouldn't kill the Lakers finacially and would allow the KGB to stay together such as Sessions for the TPE, Beasley for the TPE or Walton/1st, or even a possible McRoberts/1st for Mayo.The options are there, and I'm sure LA have explored them all.
@The Scare Crow ...
He's a very good starter and a great defender, but he's definitely not in the same class as Pau Gasol. He's not good enough to trade for Gasol straight up.