[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Serious question, Can you see Emmanuel Mudiay falling in this draft? And if so how far can he fall?

If the first three picks in the 2015 NBA Draft go as plan as the Timberwolves selects Karl-Anthony Towns, the Lakers select Jahlil Okafor, and the 76ers select D’Angelo Russell will the New York Knicks select Emmanuel Mudiay? I’ve been thinking about this since the NBA lottery and I believe he can fall a bit in the draft. 

The Knicks system does not fit what Emmanuel Mudiay excel the best at, and that’s pick and roll game. I don’t believe that Phil Jackson will all of a sudden change the offense that he ran to success in the league. So I don’t see how Mudiay fit in in New York. And the Knicks need some bigs and need another wing to play with Carmelo Anthony. Justise Winslow and Kristaps Porzingis fits the triangle much better than Muday/ Justise Winslow is a relentless cutter, can finish, can pass the ball, and can play both wing positions. Kristaps Porzingis can pass, shoot, and  is athletic. They fit way more than Emmanuel Mudiay with the Knicks.

The Orlando Magic have Elfrid Payton, so I can see the Sacromento Kings being prime to take their franchise point guard with the 6th pick in the draft. I would say that’ll be a steal if he fall there in the draft. I fell he can be the best player in the draft and when he went against the elite players in this draft he looked like the best player on the court by far @ the Nike Hoop Summit. 

 

 

 

[shootingstar11Participant]

 Anyone can fall, that certainly includes Mudiay.

However, if you watched enough NYK basketball last season, you would have noticed that D. Fish started running more and more pick and roll towards the end of season. Phil Jackson prefers to run tri-angle, and he also prefers to have "big" lead guard, Mudiay fits that category.  I think Knicks would most likely pick Mudiay, who can easily become the best player in this draft.  Knicks need a PG that can break down the defense, and it’s also what Mudiay does best.  He needs to improve his jump shooting, but with practice / training, you can almost bank on that (look at Westbrook, but guy cant shoot when he played for UCLA).

I don’t see Knicks taking Porzingis, not after their disaterous trade for Bargnani, the 2 are too similar, might as well hold onto Bargs for vet’s minimum.

Winslow is another possibilty, but D. Fish has stated in the past that he prefers to keep Carmelo at Small Forward, and Knicks need a PG a lot more than another wing player.  

Knicks also have need at center position, but lets face .. its a lot easier acquiring a shot blocker / rim protector than a play-making PG.  

Mudiay has great potential, and I dont see NYK passing up on that.  Smart exectuvies draft Best Available Player, and tailor their system based on the players they have.  Not the other way around.

 

 

 

 

 

[shootingstar11Participant]

 Anyone can fall, that certainly includes Mudiay.

However, if you watched enough NYK basketball last season, you would have noticed that D. Fish started running more and more pick and roll towards the end of season. Phil Jackson prefers to run tri-angle, and he also prefers to have "big" lead guard, Mudiay fits that category.  I think Knicks would most likely pick Mudiay, who can easily become the best player in this draft.  Knicks need a PG that can break down the defense, and it’s also what Mudiay does best.  He needs to improve his jump shooting, but with practice / training, you can almost bank on that (look at Westbrook, but guy cant shoot when he played for UCLA).

I don’t see Knicks taking Porzingis, not after their disaterous trade for Bargnani, the 2 are too similar, might as well hold onto Bargs for vet’s minimum.

Winslow is another possibilty, but D. Fish has stated in the past that he prefers to keep Carmelo at Small Forward, and Knicks need a PG a lot more than another wing player.  

Knicks also have need at center position, but lets face .. its a lot easier acquiring a shot blocker / rim protector than a play-making PG.  

Mudiay has great potential, and I dont see NYK passing up on that.  Smart exectuvies draft Best Available Player, and tailor their system based on the players they have.  Not the other way around.

 

 

 

 

 

[herceg_bukuParticipant]

 As i stated in prior posts, scouts judge players incorrectly nowadays and base everything on potential and scrutinize everything that someone does out of ordinary (Eg. go to China and play instead of NCAA). Personally watching players play in NCAA its very hard to assess them, too much "team ball" which in my mind the coach is usually on a power trip and doesnt let players do what they are capable of. It is really hard to say because really anyone can fall off.

I would take Mudiay as high as 3-5, he is combo guard that is very big, strong, athletic and seems to have hustle and heart (which is what really matters). This is an obvious statement but he reminds me of john wall, and Wall has become a heck of a player and i enjoy watching him. Best of luck to Mudiay and i hope he has a long and healthy career.

 

[shootingstar11Participant]

 totally agreed w/ you.

some scouts / people knock on Mudiay due to his inability to shoot well from pereimeter, but he’s got a good enough stroke to me, and should become a decent pereimeter shooter in pro.  What i like about this kid is his demeanor.  He seems to have a very good character, with good work ethic, which counts even more.  Knicks would be a fool to pass up on him, and I know lots of NYK fans (myself included) would be calling Phil’s head.  

People say Phil may not want to hand the franchise to a PG who struggles shooting and making decisions, but i would argue… given the potential and talent Mudiay possesses, how can you pass him up for lesser talents (winslow and WCS (which is an inferior version of Tyson Chandler))?  PG is the most important position in the league, and Knicks have been looking for their franchise PG since the 90s, Mudiay is the one for them, i believe Phil will draft him @ 4th.

 

 

[shootingstar11Participant]

 totally agreed w/ you.

some scouts / people knock on Mudiay due to his inability to shoot well from pereimeter, but he’s got a good enough stroke to me, and should become a decent pereimeter shooter in pro.  What i like about this kid is his demeanor.  He seems to have a very good character, with good work ethic, which counts even more.  Knicks would be a fool to pass up on him, and I know lots of NYK fans (myself included) would be calling Phil’s head.  

People say Phil may not want to hand the franchise to a PG who struggles shooting and making decisions, but i would argue… given the potential and talent Mudiay possesses, how can you pass him up for lesser talents (winslow and WCS (which is an inferior version of Tyson Chandler))?  PG is the most important position in the league, and Knicks have been looking for their franchise PG since the 90s, Mudiay is the one for them, i believe Phil will draft him @ 4th.

 

 

[herceg_bukuParticipant]

 As i stated in prior posts, scouts judge players incorrectly nowadays and base everything on potential and scrutinize everything that someone does out of ordinary (Eg. go to China and play instead of NCAA). Personally watching players play in NCAA its very hard to assess them, too much "team ball" which in my mind the coach is usually on a power trip and doesnt let players do what they are capable of. It is really hard to say because really anyone can fall off.

I would take Mudiay as high as 3-5, he is combo guard that is very big, strong, athletic and seems to have hustle and heart (which is what really matters). This is an obvious statement but he reminds me of john wall, and Wall has become a heck of a player and i enjoy watching him. Best of luck to Mudiay and i hope he has a long and healthy career.

 

[HobbyOGParticipant]

 I think the Knicks trade down a couple spots and someone else takes him fourth. I’ve read on realgm, hoopshype, etc that the Knicks really like WCS and Trey Lyles, you can take those guys a couple picks down while getting something in return. 

[HobbyOGParticipant]

 I think the Knicks trade down a couple spots and someone else takes him fourth. I’ve read on realgm, hoopshype, etc that the Knicks really like WCS and Trey Lyles, you can take those guys a couple picks down while getting something in return. 

[shootingstar11Participant]

WSC is a possibility but i just cant see Phil Jackson repeating his mistakes (remember, he traded Chandler, WSC looks like a clone of Tyson Chandler)… plus, as mentioned previously, rim protectors aren’t that difficult to acquire.  Good PG w/ potential is hard to come by.  

Lyles is just a smoke screen, the guy is probably 10th pick at best.

I don’t see Knicks trading down this time.  Knicks need a PG who can get to the basket, and there’s no one in this draft does it better than Mudiay.  You pair him up with Calderon in back-court, and i think that’s not a bad combo at all (Mudiay has the size the strength to be a very good defender).

 

  

[shootingstar11Participant]

WSC is a possibility but i just cant see Phil Jackson repeating his mistakes (remember, he traded Chandler, WSC looks like a clone of Tyson Chandler)… plus, as mentioned previously, rim protectors aren’t that difficult to acquire.  Good PG w/ potential is hard to come by.  

Lyles is just a smoke screen, the guy is probably 10th pick at best.

I don’t see Knicks trading down this time.  Knicks need a PG who can get to the basket, and there’s no one in this draft does it better than Mudiay.  You pair him up with Calderon in back-court, and i think that’s not a bad combo at all (Mudiay has the size the strength to be a very good defender).

 

  

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 He shoots 34 from 3? Season 1 in the pros is usually a bad fg% and 3 point percentage. Muiday looks to be shooting just fine at 34 % first pro season. Knicks will be making a big mistake, because he plays hard,plays to win, and i think he helps Melo a lot in year one.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 He shoots 34 from 3? Season 1 in the pros is usually a bad fg% and 3 point percentage. Muiday looks to be shooting just fine at 34 % first pro season. Knicks will be making a big mistake, because he plays hard,plays to win, and i think he helps Melo a lot in year one.

[PistonsFan22Participant]

I can’t see him getting past Sacramento.George Karl would love to have an athletic point guard like Mudiay that can push the tempo and defend. It would be a good match for Mudiay and the Kings but I really doubt the Knicks pass on Mudiay. You have to roll the dice on athletic point guards with size and big potential and hope for the best, it would be a smart pick.

[PistonsFan22Participant]

I can’t see him getting past Sacramento.George Karl would love to have an athletic point guard like Mudiay that can push the tempo and defend. It would be a good match for Mudiay and the Kings but I really doubt the Knicks pass on Mudiay. You have to roll the dice on athletic point guards with size and big potential and hope for the best, it would be a smart pick.

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