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  • #6351
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    d-grizzly
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    we’re here today to talk about long term dynasty’s. the younger teams that are building and already have promising talent and soon to be all stars.

    Portland. a dynasty already underway and strongly put together. aldridge will be one of the best fowards in this league for years…roy will always be a top 3 SG until kobe and wade retire. ODEN…he really needs to develope and show some consistency…GET HEALTHY DUDE……. this team is a solid point guard and a little more bench help away from being very..very scary.

    Chicago. Rose.. Need i say anymore? they will figure out completely what to put around rose. picking up johnson, imo, is not a bad move at all. they’re young, talented, and this team has a bright future.

    OKC. DURANT! westrbrook…green…harden…don’t they look scarier each year that goes by??? they picked up mullens…which i’m hoping he turns out to be pretty nice. krystic will continue to do what he does. they have sefolosha and collison and watson. this team to me is a solid center (growth of mullens) a SF off the bench that score very well…and a little more experience away from scaring everybody..as much as portland..

    New Jersey. devin harris, brook lopez lee and t-will look to be very young and talented. with pieces like Ji, boone and alston as the helping factors. Yi needs to develope into a worthy PF in this league. IMO, i think lopez is the next duncan, he won’t match his stats or rings probably, but this is the best comparison i can give of lopez. This team needs a younger PG, a real PF, and much more bench help to make a strong splash.

    LAC. judge if you must…but this team looks very nice. griffin looks very promising…add him to thorton..gordon..caman..and bd… with bench help from camby, jordan..taylor..(ricky davis…sigh). Desire, consistency and health will bring this team a long way.

    GS – young, talented, will look to be pretty strong and young for the upcoming years.

    Memphis. conely, mayo, gay, randolph and gasol(starting center) Trading darko away and making room for thabeet. memphis is down here because there is no garunteed improvement in conely or thabeet. mayo, gay will get better for the next 3-4 years that go by, gasol will get better for the next 2-3 years, being he’s 24. if they match any offer that a team gives to warrick….then very good. warrick’s a young player with experiece who knows how to score and rebound. other than warrick…the bench looks pretty plain and young…and inexperienced.

    Sac. will evans workout at the point well? will martin stop being just a shooter? how well will this 2 big foward duo do in the future? if hawes put on a lil more weight..i’ll consider him a center. thompson and hawes look good..the kings look to be solid for starter bigs. a real center off the bench..defensive specialist center that is.. would provide massive relief for hawes and thompson. let’s say evans works out at the point…will beno or sergio ever play up to their potential..or atleast help evans? The kings need SG depth. Can garcia breakthrough..or is 12ppg, 4rpg and 3apg 1spg his peak? i don’t like the hate on garcia..i’d love to see him in memphis contributing….in fact..if this guy went to a playoff team..he’d provide strong bench help..he is an above average defender that can play the 1, 2, or 3…. and he can pass or shoot the 3.

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  • #179645
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    Knicksboy34
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    I like the Duncan-Lopez comparison.

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  • #179647
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    xbadgerhustler
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    I think the Nets have some REALLY solid pieces…. I think they need to add some Outside Shooters and a Closer, but that’s about it as far as I can tell.

    from my championship teams post….

    Closer: I don’t think that Devin Harris is the answer. The Nets are one of the teams that supposed to be under the cap next year right? They’d be smart to use their cap room on a closer…..

    I think TWill and Lee will prove to be pesky defenders, Lopez is a strong post force, TWill and Lopez bring nice size to the court~ I like Sean Williams (the talented asshole) on the court with those guys…. Harris can get to the line.

    Again, they don’t have enough outside shooting YET to stretch the floor (yi?)

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  • #179648
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    gatorheels
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    Good post. I would take the Kings & Clippers off that list though.

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  • #179651
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    xbadgerhustler
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    I think the Clips could be realllly good too. We’ll see if DeAndre can develop into a consistent post threat and not just a huge guy out there playing off his natural abilities.

    Eric Gordon brings that outside shooting, and I think he’ll be a ‘closer’ in time. I’d like to see them add another outside shooter to better space the floor.

    I’d also say they need to add another solid wing defender. I know Gordon can D up, but he can’t be expending his energy on defense, he’s too important offensively.

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  • #179653
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    llperez

    Just go back to the 90’s and you will realize most “teams of the future” never get it done.

    The hornets with Larry Johnson and Alonzo Mourning were gonna be a dynasty

    the Magic with Shaq and Penny were gonna be a dynasty

    the mavericks with Jackson, mashburn and kidd were gonna be a dynasty

    the wolves with KG and starbury were gonna be a dynasty

    the bucks with Baker, GRobinson and RAllen were gonna be a dynasty…etc…etc…

    Teams either get it done or they don’t, and most cases, they don’t.

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  • #179654
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    BasketballGuru24
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    Kings With That Roster Don’t Even Look Like A Playoff Team…….Take them Off The List !!

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  • #179656
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    d-grizzly
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    did a few of you not read the opening statement? or did you forget?

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  • #179658
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    gatorheels
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    Oh I agree with most your selections except Kings & Clippers. I don’t think a core of Evans, Martin, Casspi, Thompson, & Hawes will ever be good enough to compete for a title. I don’t see the Kings winning a championship ever. I really don’t see any capable all-stars on the team either…maybe Martin/Evans have a slim chance. As for the Clippers I don’t think they will ever compete for a title either. Baron & Camby are getting old. Kaman isn’t a legit starting Center for a playoff team. Yeah Griffin & Gordon are good but they have way to many holes to fill in the future. Thornton is OK but I don’t see star quality in him. Griffin & Gordon are potential all-stars I will admit that. Both could be playoff teams in the future. It just depends on what you consider a dynasty. I think the other six teams on your list are in much better shape for the future than the Kings &or Clippers.

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  • #179660
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    d-grizzly
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    i respect your views

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  • #179663
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    CLYDE-frazier10
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    yo ur saying all these going to be dynasties. IMO a dynasty is a team that has won at least 3 championships out of 5 years. They have to dominate each year. As for these teams i see
    Portland, OKC, Memphis, and the bulls being great he future.

    Portland they already have few superstars in the making in Roy and Aldridge. I really want to see how bayless develops. Oden can be a really good center if healthy. thier a few pieces away.

    OKC have a superstar in Dourant. Green is a solid player. Westbrook is going to be able to run the show. Harden is going to be able to put up numbers this year. Thier going to win a ring in the future.

    Bulls, i am really putting them up here because i believe they will get wade next year. Wade and Derick Rose as a back court. would lead a team to finals with the right pieces.

    Memphis Rudy Gay + OJ Mayo +Zbo + thabeet = great future and also a solid present.

    as far as dynasties if i could tell you that i would be on ESPN.

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  • #179665
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    grizz_fan7
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    It should be
    Portland
    Oklahoma
    Memphis
    Chicago
    NJ
    LA
    Golden St
    Sacramento

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  • #179667
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    d-grizzly
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    port and okc have the 1st and 2nd best chances (on this list) of winning multiple titles in the next 12 years.

    if you have a different opinion of what a dynasty is, i’ll express the difference between superstars and allstars like roy and aldridge.

    superstars – kobe, lebron, wade, howard, paul and durant.

    allstars – roy (though very close to being a superstar), t.parker, anthony, bosh, amar’e, nash, nowitski, aldridge.

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  • #179678
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    ckowalski
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    you cant put durant in the superstar category before he even makes one allstar game (even if it seems like a foregone conclusion) and put guys that have made multiple allstar games into just the allstar category.

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  • #179693
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    Anton123
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    If Minnesota does trades Rubio for a good young small forward, they might have the potential to be a great team with Love, Flynn, Jefferson and a good small forward

    Absolutely agree on Portland and Oklahoma

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  • #179695
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    dejuicebox
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    your right the Nets do need a closer
    thats why they are going to say hello to Lebron James
    honestly i like both the nets and knicks, but i dont see why go to the NYK, they have a bad supporting cast, the nets should, i emphasize should, be in Brooklyn soon, have Jay-Z and their team is very promsiing

    PG Harris
    SG Lee
    SF T-Will
    PF- Yi
    C Lopez

    add Lebron in and that team is a top 3 in the eastern conference

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  • #179698
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    gatorheels
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    Yeah but lets face it….Lee isn’t a really a good starting SG for a playoff team & TWilliams definitely isn’t a good starting SF for a playoff team..The Nets have to sign two high quality free agents next year to be a factor. Plus they have to pick wisely in the 2010 draft..I expect them to have a top 5 pick.

    The TWolves need more than just a small forward….They need a legit starting SG worse than anything. All they have is Ellington. Gomes & Brewer aren’t a bad combo at the SF position. Minnesota still needs size in the post too. They are few years from the playoffs at least.

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  • #179912
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    pointguardfun
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    i think oklahoma will be a fix in the playoffs for years to come. their core has scary potential and i think scott brooks is a good coach. durant, westbrook, harden. green, livingston, krstic. sefolosha, weaver, ibaka, watson, collison and mullens. that’s 12 players. and DJ White is good too. i’m very excited with this team. they have enough firepower.

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