Dwade won’t age gracefully

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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 2:04pm #48790

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After watching dwade a little bit this season In my opinion he will not age gracefully and evolve his game like other great players do when they get older. I know Jordan and Kobe changed their games when they lost some athleticism but I just don’t think dwade is that player. I know it’s pretty early to speculate but I think he will prob have a significant drop off in in the next few years. Hopefully he can stay somewhat relevant like Vince carter
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 2:34pm #770826

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I agree and he should stay at least somewhat relevant. Remember D Wade was a a much better player than Carter. But he realllly needs to improve his jumper.
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 3:45pm #770856
  
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  Carter could always shoot. Wade might have been a far better player, but his injuries and lack of a shot are catching up with him. Say what you want about Vince, but you can’t leave him open. Not all guys deteriorate at the same pace. Skilled guys can age, get hurt and stil bel useful. Not saying Wade isn’t useful or skilled, but he is one of those guys that has relied so much on his freakish athleticism. When that is gone, what is left for him? At this point the only thing that is slowing down him from looking worse than what he is, is LeBron being the first option on the court. It affords him a lot of easy baskets.
  At some point in the offseason, I really think he might need to be the one to work on his post up game.
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 3:45pm #770926
  
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  Carter could always shoot. Wade might have been a far better player, but his injuries and lack of a shot are catching up with him. Say what you want about Vince, but you can’t leave him open. Not all guys deteriorate at the same pace. Skilled guys can age, get hurt and stil bel useful. Not saying Wade isn’t useful or skilled, but he is one of those guys that has relied so much on his freakish athleticism. When that is gone, what is left for him? At this point the only thing that is slowing down him from looking worse than what he is, is LeBron being the first option on the court. It affords him a lot of easy baskets.
  At some point in the offseason, I really think he might need to be the one to work on his post up game.
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:18pm #770997
  
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  Wouldn’t say Wade was a “much” better player than Vince. Their stats through 9 seasons are pretty similar. Wade was probably a little better all around, but Carter was a much better outside shooter. Both were elite athletes in their prime. Could argue that if you put Vince in his prime with Shaq or Bron he’d probably have a ring too.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 5:43am #771147
    
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    Wade played defense at a high level. He led a team to a championship. Carter was always considered soft and often didn’t come up in moments when his team needed him. I think if you look beyond the stats there is a big difference.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 5:43am #771217
    
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    Wade played defense at a high level. He led a team to a championship. Carter was always considered soft and often didn’t come up in moments when his team needed him. I think if you look beyond the stats there is a big difference.
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:18pm #771067
  
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  Wouldn’t say Wade was a “much” better player than Vince. Their stats through 9 seasons are pretty similar. Wade was probably a little better all around, but Carter was a much better outside shooter. Both were elite athletes in their prime. Could argue that if you put Vince in his prime with Shaq or Bron he’d probably have a ring too.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 2:34pm #770896

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I agree and he should stay at least somewhat relevant. Remember D Wade was a a much better player than Carter. But he realllly needs to improve his jumper.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 2:52pm #770832

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What do you mean? You mean you aren’t impressed by how many easy, makeable shots he botches, and how he gets the majority of his points on uncontested layups? C’mon, he’ll certainly be Kobe at 35.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 2:52pm #770902

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What do you mean? You mean you aren’t impressed by how many easy, makeable shots he botches, and how he gets the majority of his points on uncontested layups? C’mon, he’ll certainly be Kobe at 35.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 3:15pm #770842

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His jumper is non-existent.
The thing with Wade is, he has all of the footwork in the world but defenders give him space because he can’t make that jumper. If he can hit that mid-range jumper, he can be a Ginobili-type slasher/shooter until he’s 35-37.
Someone needs to keep him in the gym shooting jumpers this entire offseason.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 3:15pm #770912

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His jumper is non-existent.
The thing with Wade is, he has all of the footwork in the world but defenders give him space because he can’t make that jumper. If he can hit that mid-range jumper, he can be a Ginobili-type slasher/shooter until he’s 35-37.
Someone needs to keep him in the gym shooting jumpers this entire offseason.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 4:22pm #770885

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Wades doesnt have the greatest jumper but being a 6’4 shooting guard and giving up 2 or more inches hurts him. It is easier now for ppl to check him because he is not super athletic anymore (seeing he has been playing with injuries the last years.) so he cant just blow pass everyone and it is not as hard to close out on his shot. You dont have to block wade just bother. With his current health he cant jump as high. Look how his blocks have dropped. 5 years ago he averaged about 1 1.5 blocks and a steal vs now
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:32pm #771075
  
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  I agree with everything except the blocking. He averaged a creer high 1.3 blocks last year and an 0.8 this year which is still pretty impressive. And he’s still at 1.9 steals a game.
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:32pm #771005
  
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  I agree with everything except the blocking. He averaged a creer high 1.3 blocks last year and an 0.8 this year which is still pretty impressive. And he’s still at 1.9 steals a game.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 4:22pm #770954

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Wades doesnt have the greatest jumper but being a 6’4 shooting guard and giving up 2 or more inches hurts him. It is easier now for ppl to check him because he is not super athletic anymore (seeing he has been playing with injuries the last years.) so he cant just blow pass everyone and it is not as hard to close out on his shot. You dont have to block wade just bother. With his current health he cant jump as high. Look how his blocks have dropped. 5 years ago he averaged about 1 1.5 blocks and a steal vs now
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 4:43pm #770891

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Agreed, he doesn’t have the post up game of Kobe nor does he posses Manu passing skills, not to mention their shooting stroke.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 4:43pm #770960

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Agreed, he doesn’t have the post up game of Kobe nor does he posses Manu passing skills, not to mention their shooting stroke.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 5:40pm #770935

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I think you guys are underrating Wade. He doesn’t take it in the post a lot, but I think he can develop that game very quickly. He has terrific footwork and coordination.
He is also a much better passer than you’re giving him credit for.
If injuries slow him severely, then he’s in trouble. Otherwise I think he’ll age well. He’s a very smart player with a supreme sense of timing.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 5:40pm #771004

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I think you guys are underrating Wade. He doesn’t take it in the post a lot, but I think he can develop that game very quickly. He has terrific footwork and coordination.
He is also a much better passer than you’re giving him credit for.
If injuries slow him severely, then he’s in trouble. Otherwise I think he’ll age well. He’s a very smart player with a supreme sense of timing.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:03pm #770983

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I believe he will still be on an allstar level 3 years from now. He played great this season, high effeciency, very good from mid range. Iknoball said right, “after watching Wade a little. Watching him a little more and with synergy there is no doubt he was a top 10 player this year. Unfortunately the knee bruise a month ago took his momentum away, but if you look at PER, Winshares or WARP you see how great he is.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:03pm #771053

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I believe he will still be on an allstar level 3 years from now. He played great this season, high effeciency, very good from mid range. Iknoball said right, “after watching Wade a little. Watching him a little more and with synergy there is no doubt he was a top 10 player this year. Unfortunately the knee bruise a month ago took his momentum away, but if you look at PER, Winshares or WARP you see how great he is.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:17pm #770995

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Hes nicknamed crash… so that should tell you about how he plays. However if his minutes are managed properly (ie. Ginobli) he should still impact the game.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:17pm #771065

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Hes nicknamed crash… so that should tell you about how he plays. However if his minutes are managed properly (ie. Ginobli) he should still impact the game.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:52pm #771085

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It’s his lack of a jumpshot that kills him. He’s still a great slasher, even as his athleticism wanes. He’s also a great passer for a 2, and has a very underrated mid post game. His fadeaway is pretty nasty. However, he isn’t a threat at all to make 3’s, especially now that he’s more concerned with efficiency.
The thing holding him back from the “all-time greatness” level is just a reliable 3 point shot. He is much less effective because the defense can sag off of him and help on LeBron. If he were shooting about 33-35% on his 3 pointer at a decent volume, he would be much more effective off the bounce. Both Kobe and MJ picked up that shot once their athleticism started to wane. It would be nice to see a post game, but that is much less important (especially since Wade is 6’4″ compared to Kobe and MJ’s 6’6″).
I’ve been very disappointed in Wade and Bosh’s development since the big 3 came together. Honestly, I could see the two becoming deadweight compared to their salaries, if the 3 resign after their current contracts. If I were the heat, i’d be concerned about my ability to resign lebron alongside Wade and Bosh. Wouldn’t it make more sense for lebron to play with someone like Kyrie Irving, than with Bosh Spice, and old man Wade?
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 7:52pm #771015

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It’s his lack of a jumpshot that kills him. He’s still a great slasher, even as his athleticism wanes. He’s also a great passer for a 2, and has a very underrated mid post game. His fadeaway is pretty nasty. However, he isn’t a threat at all to make 3’s, especially now that he’s more concerned with efficiency.
The thing holding him back from the “all-time greatness” level is just a reliable 3 point shot. He is much less effective because the defense can sag off of him and help on LeBron. If he were shooting about 33-35% on his 3 pointer at a decent volume, he would be much more effective off the bounce. Both Kobe and MJ picked up that shot once their athleticism started to wane. It would be nice to see a post game, but that is much less important (especially since Wade is 6’4″ compared to Kobe and MJ’s 6’6″).
I’ve been very disappointed in Wade and Bosh’s development since the big 3 came together. Honestly, I could see the two becoming deadweight compared to their salaries, if the 3 resign after their current contracts. If I were the heat, i’d be concerned about my ability to resign lebron alongside Wade and Bosh. Wouldn’t it make more sense for lebron to play with someone like Kyrie Irving, than with Bosh Spice, and old man Wade?
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 8:16pm #771097

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Wade is seriously overrated
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 8:16pm #771026

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Wade is seriously overrated
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 8:56pm #771115

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I don’t think Wade is going to struggle to score in the post, he was a PF coming out of high school and has shown the ability to score in the post in the past. I think Wade is just lacking motivation right now, it’s all well and good to win a ring with Lebron, but Wade has always played with a chip on his shoulder, but now that’s gone.
That aggressive instinct is gone now, which is a damn shame.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 8:56pm #771046

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I don’t think Wade is going to struggle to score in the post, he was a PF coming out of high school and has shown the ability to score in the post in the past. I think Wade is just lacking motivation right now, it’s all well and good to win a ring with Lebron, but Wade has always played with a chip on his shoulder, but now that’s gone.
That aggressive instinct is gone now, which is a damn shame.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 9:47pm #771125

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I agree. Hes gonna be like DET/ATL T-Mac except shorter & a bad shooter. He’ll still be able to post & pass very well, but the loss of explosion will lead to a lot of contested 2s & some trouble finishing at the rim
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Posted on: Wed, 05/08/2013 - 9:47pm #771056

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I agree. Hes gonna be like DET/ATL T-Mac except shorter & a bad shooter. He’ll still be able to post & pass very well, but the loss of explosion will lead to a lot of contested 2s & some trouble finishing at the rim
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Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 3:15am #771100

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As long as LeBron is in Miami Wade is going to be fine. LeBron makes everyone around him better and he will certainly help Wade age quite well.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 3:15am #771170

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As long as LeBron is in Miami Wade is going to be fine. LeBron makes everyone around him better and he will certainly help Wade age quite well.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 3:41am #771109

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Wade’s knees are already a problem and with the way he has hit the floor during his career and the fact he’s not a good shooter his best days are clearly behind him.
Lebron can help Wade to an extent but in the long run it would only serve to wear Lebron down. LeBron needs a player that will help take pressure offer of him as well. It’s not like Wade will ever shoot like Ray Allen so the Heat will have to make a tough decision once his contract expires esspecially if there is a younger player(s) wanting to sign with the Heat.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 3:41am #771178

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Wade’s knees are already a problem and with the way he has hit the floor during his career and the fact he’s not a good shooter his best days are clearly behind him.
Lebron can help Wade to an extent but in the long run it would only serve to wear Lebron down. LeBron needs a player that will help take pressure offer of him as well. It’s not like Wade will ever shoot like Ray Allen so the Heat will have to make a tough decision once his contract expires esspecially if there is a younger player(s) wanting to sign with the Heat.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 5:38am #771143

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I think Wade will be fine. Although he has never really had a great jumper, he is smart and knows how to use the glass and has a good mid range game. I also think Wade could maybe lose some weight. Not saying Wade is fat, but I think for his height he should get more lean. Kobe dropped 16 lbs for the olympics and he was in better shape than guys younger than him. The only thing is that Wade plays in the post well for a guard and a player his size like what omphalos said. So I don’t know if him losing weight could benefit him when he is banging down low with guys taller than him. But he has long arms so I dont think him losing weight will be that bad. He plays taller than what he is. I think some weight loss this summer could be very beneficial for him as he ages.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 5:38am #771213

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I think Wade will be fine. Although he has never really had a great jumper, he is smart and knows how to use the glass and has a good mid range game. I also think Wade could maybe lose some weight. Not saying Wade is fat, but I think for his height he should get more lean. Kobe dropped 16 lbs for the olympics and he was in better shape than guys younger than him. The only thing is that Wade plays in the post well for a guard and a player his size like what omphalos said. So I don’t know if him losing weight could benefit him when he is banging down low with guys taller than him. But he has long arms so I dont think him losing weight will be that bad. He plays taller than what he is. I think some weight loss this summer could be very beneficial for him as he ages.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 5:08pm #771502

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His nickname is not crash. That’s Gerald Wallace. C’mon man
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Posted on: Thu, 05/09/2013 - 5:08pm #771572

IknoBall12
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His nickname is not crash. That’s Gerald Wallace. C’mon man
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