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  • #38755
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    UNCbasketballbum
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    I was thinking today about Tim Duncan and Kevin Garne.  Both are the same age and both dominated during the same time, about 1999-2007.  What if they had switched teams?  Would Garnett have won 4 championships with the Spurs cast?  Would Tim Duncan be a hall of famer and the greatest power forward of all time with the T-wolves cast?  Thoughts?

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  • #665521
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    dede21

     Garnett would of won 0 Duncan 4: 3 with Boston one with Minny

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  • #665524
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    UNCbasketballbum
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    once you hit -500 points do you think that maybe, just maybe, you should change your basketball outlook?

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  • #665526
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    Duncan domainted from 1997-2008.  KG not sure when but probably 99-2009 till the big injury.

    KG didn’t do enough on offense to be as good as Duncan.

     

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  • #665528
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    dede21

    Garnett had better players around him over his career, Duncan pretty much won 99 and 2003 by himself

    Brandon>johnson

    Wally>jackson

    Gugliotta>Elliot

    Smith=Robinson

    Cassell>parker

    Sprewell>Finley

    young rasho> old rasho

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  • #665529
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    dede21

     Pierce>Ginobili

    Allen>Parker

    Posey>Barry

    Sheed>Blair

    Perkins>Nazi

    Scalabrine>Mengke Bateer

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  • #665530
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    dede21

     if Popovich coached MInny I would give Duncan 8 titles and Garnett 0, if coaches stayed the same 4 Duncan maybe 1 for Garnett in 2007 if the course of history does not change the the butterfly effect might make the Warriors not upset Dallas in the first round and a Duncan led Spurs team wanted no part of Dallas that year but GS was a bad matchup for them, so obviously a Garnett led SPurs team would of had almost no shot vs. Dallas

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  • #665533
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    FG 49.9%, 3pt FG 28.3%, FT 79.0%, ORB 2.4, AST 4.0, and PTS 19.3

    FG 50.7% 3pt FG 17.7%, FT 68.8%, ORB 3.0, AST 3.1, and PTS 20.3

    Those are the two players career offensive numbers. Whose is whose? They are pretty similar to say KG couldn’t do enough to be as good offensively. 

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  • #665536
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    DipoTime
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     What’s crazy is that they have both averaged 7.8 made field goals per 15.5 attempts over their career..

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  • #665532
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    KG would have won at least 1 ring with the spurs.

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  • #665540
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    dede21

    It is pretty obvious Duncan would of got 3 in Boston it would of been a threepeat 08-10, Boston only lost in 09 because of Garnetts injurt and ’10 because of Perkins injury and Duncan is more of a natural 5 so he would of stepped in better although the gap in ability between Duncan and Garnett is less now thatn in their prime but just form a matchup perspective I think Boston would of won game 7 if they had not already won it in 6/  And they would of won in 2011 if Rondo did not get hurt.  So yes it is true barring injury Garnett would of won 3 or 4 titles in Boston.  Ok the one year I forgot about was 2000 the year Duncan missed the playoffs maybe an outside chance a Garnett Spurs team could of won then but like 26% chance maybe.

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  • #665535
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    Ok look, in ’99, Duncan carried them, not entirely alone because Robinson was still good for 16 and 10, however he did do it sort of on his own, but that would be the only tittle year if any I would take away from Garnett if they were switched, the Celtics would’ve had another run in them if KG didn’t go down in 09, 10 if Perk didn’t go down, and 11 if Perk wasn’t traded, but KG just didn’t have a good supporting cast in Minny, those teams were pretty bad around KG other than that one Cassell Sprewell year.

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  • #665542
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     People forget that Duncan almost teamed up with T-Mac and Grant hill in Orlando. I think he would have for sure if he was in Minnesota. And I think Pops alone would get KG at least the same amount of rings if not more than Duncan. I think more of the success comes from him, the supporting cast, and the organization as a whole than Duncan himself. He is definitely good enough to carry a team and get one or two on his own but I think the spurs as a whole deserve more credit.

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  • #665543
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    dede21

     Numbers are a little overrated because Duncan could demand a double team more than Garnett and get the defense to scramble, plus he was a better defensive player by a mile even though KG was one of the top 5 defenders in the NBA Duncan was unreal defensively.

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  • #665544
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    dede21

     aamir there is no chance the 2003 Spurs could of won with Garnett, Ginobili and Parker may have been on that team but they were average NBA players at that time even though they became good later on.

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  • #665539
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    @srbadger, Garnett was a good offensive guy, but he was never the extremely skilled post magican that Duncan was, however Garnett to an extent was a play maker, so that makes us for that, but Duncan is hands down the more skilled and reliable option especially in the post.

    And remember, Garnett might be the better defensive player between the two, but if Garnett is a 10 on a scale of 1-10, than Duncan was a 9.5, he was the anchor of those defenses for all of those Spurs’ tittles, a menace protecting the rim.

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  • #665546
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    Hey I agree that Duncan was a monster offensively. I mean how many guys can get you 43 from banking in 15 footers all game lol he literally could do it all on both ends. I just think ppl forget how good Garnett was as an all around player and not just a defensive-oriented player. 

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  • #665552
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    dede21

    This guy asks would Tim Duncan still be a hall of famer and I am the one who gets negged lol see how much points mean to anyone that has a clue lol

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  • #665553
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    UNCbasketballbum
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    yeah, Garnet never got any help in Minny, thank Kevin Mchale for basically ruining the career of one of the greatest players of all time.  The only help KG ever got was the 2004 team with Spree, Cassell, Trenton Hassell and "the mayor," Fred Hoiberg.  Perhaps if Marbury hadn’t demanded a trade out of Minny, KG and Starbury could’ve had something special going on there.

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  • #665554
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    dede21

     Tim Duncan is about the 8th best player in history and that has nothing to do with winning titles just his ability

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  • #665560
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    dede21

     Bullshit 2002 Timberwolves supporting cast better than any team Duncan ever played on, that is 3 all stars and Joe Smith a fuckin legend

    1Kevin Garnett25818139.28.117.3.4700.51.4.3194.45.5.8013.09.112.15.21.21.62.82.321.2
    2Wally Szczerbiak24828238.07.414.6.5081.12.3.4552.83.3.8311.53.34.83.10.80.32.22.318.7
    3Chauncey Billups25825428.74.210.0.4231.53.8.3942.52.9.8850.42.32.85.50.80.21.72.112.5
    4Terrell Brandon31322830.14.811.4.4250.10.7.1742.62.6.9880.52.42.98.31.60.21.31.512.4
    5Joe Smith26726326.74.18.1.5110.00.0.6672.42.9.8302.14.26.31.10.50.81.23.510.7
    6Anthony Peeler3282025.13.58.3.4211.43.5.3920.60.7.8620.52.12.52.20.70.10.91.79.0
    7Rasho Nesterovic25828227.04.08.0.4930.00.0.0000.50.9.5492.44.16.50.90.51.31.13.28.4
    8Gary Trent27641017.83.06.0.5070.00.0.0001.42.3.6391.62.64.20.90.

    Marc Jackson

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  • #665565
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    dede21

     Although Marbury kind of exposed as a fraud overall talent level was down at the time he was an all star:

    KG played wiht Marbury/Brandon/Smith all on same team and 

    marbury/Gugliotta 

    shit Duncan probably would of won a lot more than 1 title in MInny what was I thinking

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  • #665566
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    dede21

     what are you talking about Garnett has had like 7-8 different supporting casts with more talent than duncan has ever had, though Popovich is a big factor of course in the Spurs success, but lets face facts Popovich will not even consider coaching another game in the NBA after Duncan retires, I leave nbadraft.net forun forever if Duncan retires and Popovich keeps coaching.

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  • #665574
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    dede21

     This guy thinks a washed up Cassell and Spree and Hassell Hoiberg were better than Marbury and Gugliotta/Brandon, Billups, Szczerbiak Smith lol he does not even know MInny’s best team.  Those team did better in the playoffs because Garnett was a leader then.   Duncan and marbury would not of clashed Marbury and Szczerbiak would of bowed down to Duncan instead of clashing and wanting it to be their team and having bad team chemistry, one of the biggest reasons for those talented Minny teams around the turn of the millenium losing was chemistry and not talent, and bottomline Tim Duncan was more mature and a better player and would not allow that to happen.

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  • #665564
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    For_Never_Ever
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     Duncan has always had the team since coming in the NBA. If roles were reverse Garnet would have won just as many championships or more.

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  • #665578
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    gone
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    Nope KG would have never put up that triple dub Duncan did in the finals. KG wasn’t a big time performer in crunch time like Duncan.

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  • #665583
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    dede21

     Duncan should of had a quadruple double against the Nets he had 8 blocks credited but it should of been 10 true my tv was only 20 inches or so back then and low definition but I’m pretty sure he had 10 blocks in 2003 against NJ.

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  • #665580
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    For_Never_Ever
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     Garnet and Marbury clashed ? I remember Marbury himself saying he just wanted to leave the city because he hated the cold. Then KG disliked him afterwards for leaving.

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  • #665587
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    dede21

    like I said both him and even Wally wanted to be the #1 offensive option, do a search you will see stuff about Westbrook Durant possibly being KG Marbury 2.0

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  • #665589
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    dede21

     I said 8 titles overall that would of been 5 in Minny and 3 in Boston I meant if he played with Garnett’s rosters every year.

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  • #665586
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    8 titles for Minny you must be out your mind.

    Even MJ never won that and yes never would have if he played in 94 and 95 since no one was stopping Olajuwon in

    95.

    KG wasn’t as clutch as Duncan he couldn’t get out of the 1st round for yrs and Pierce was the Finals MVP in 2008 for a reason.

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  • #665592
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    dede21

     Jordan probably could of won the title in ’99 if they brought everyone back but maybe he was suspended or hurt (rumors)

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  • #665596
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    dede21

     Yeh they had Marbury, brandon, Billups none of those guys could dribble lol

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  • #665590
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    Its pretty well known that Minnesota teams with Garnett were pretty poor. There was even that Joe smith debacle with picks. Garnett did everything for Minny he even brought the ball up  when they got pressed. Duncan is a traditional power forward. If you surround him with same cast as Garnett He wins no championships in Minnesota 

    If you put Duncan in Boston it is possible they win but it was Garnetts fire and defensive ability they feed off. So I will give him same total 1 championship 

    Garnett with Robinson his first year I think they win. I also think san antonio would have built the same quality team around Garnett as I think they are best organization in league might have been different pieces but still great team. I also think pop is great coach so I give him 2 more chips. 

    Overall I think they were both great players although different. I do think that Minnesota never field a team close to most of SA except for year with spree and sam.

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  • #665604
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    dede21

     For Never that might be the worst post ever Hakeem is the best international player and best player ever

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  • #665605
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    dede21

     Hakeem, Ewing, Duncan, Dirk, and Nash all clearly better than Manu 

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  • #665601
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    Noting to really to do with the main topic. I believe Ginobili is the Greatest international player ever to be in the NBA.

    What about Dirk?

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  • #665599
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    For_Never_Ever
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     Not really to do with the main topic. I believe Ginobili is the Greatest international player ever to be in the NBA.

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  • #665607
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    dede21

     Ewing is form Jamaica they have a bobsled team

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpX1vMDaCmA

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  • #665610
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     He had the worst post ever? By international player it is commonly known that we mean going to the NBA straight from another country. Just because Hakeem was born in Nigeria doesn’t mean he is considered an "international" player. Do you consider Kyrie Irving Steve Nash or even Tim Duncan to be international players? Bc they weren’t born in the US. Hakeem went to Houston university and even competed in the 96 Olympics.. For the US!

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    • #665614
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      dede21

       yes I consider Tim Duncan and Nash international, Irving is different because his dad was a US citizen but he was born outside the country, Dominique Wilkins was born in France I do not consider him international same situation as Kyrie or Tebow

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  • #665606
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    For_Never_Ever
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    To me Dirk is second to him. Dirk has always been label soft until last year, I do understand way more pressure is on dirk being the focal point of the team.

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  • #665609
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    KG didn’t play in the post nearly enough and that makes all the difference when comparing the two.  KG was right there numbers-wise in every other case, but just a bit worse everywhere but maybe the glass.

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  • #665617
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    dede21

     I still think it is hard to justify Manu over Dirk regardless, so Marc Gasol is american and his brother is international according to you lol?

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  • #665608
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    For_Never_Ever
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    I forgot those guys are  international. Yeah I would say The Dream is the greatest, then Manu, then Dirk, Ewing is 4th on my list of  international players.

     

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  • #665611
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    For Never that might be the worst post ever Hakeem is the best international player and best player ever

    Hakeem best player ever? No not at all.

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  • #665619
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    dede21

     badger what about Enes Kanter is he international or US according to you?, tricky one huh?

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  • #665616
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    For_Never_Ever
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    Hahahah, My fault forget everything I said. I have to think about it some more forgot Duncan and Nash are international as well.

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  • #665618
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    For_Never_Ever
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     I have thought Manu is better than Dirk, also have been the best current international player in the NBA for years now.

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  • #665622
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    dede21

     no the srbadger guy who said Duncan and nash are not international according to him because they played college ball

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  • #665623
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    dede21

     you think I’m from Europe?

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  • #665620
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    For_Never_Ever
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     Who you asking me ?

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  • #665621
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    For_Never_Ever
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     He talks like he isnt from around here. I think he is somewhere from europe.

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  • #665626
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    dede21

     He is from Turkey, I just meant he was on kentucky’s roster but never played so does that count according to the badger guy?

     

    But like I said I consdier him, Duncan, Nash Kleiza etc. international

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  • #665624
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     I love this topic, I personally think Garnett is better then Duncan not by much though. For the record Duncan has been playing center for like the last 7 years, he toke jump balls and always guarded other teams centers and vice versa. Garnett is an amazing offensive player whos the idiots who think he isnt. He was second in the league in scoring his MVP years and is one of the best passing big men of our time. And come on he played for Minny, no free agent wants to sign their and when u can take a team with a 38 year old cassel and a old spreewell to the western conference finals u are a man. Duncan is quite amazing to. Everything he did was cold and calculated, you could know what he was gunna do and not stop it. But he fell into a dream situation with the spurs and that front office has done everything to keep that engine running. Duncan is the main guy no doubt about it but the front office always gave him the best chance to win

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  • #665625
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    For_Never_Ever
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     Idk. but I think  Enes Kanter talks like he isn’t from around here.

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  • #665634
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    dede21

     Yes I know 06 Wolves sucked and defense sucked but Duncan was a one man defense in his prime like Doc Howard.  Tim Duncan won a title with Rasho though, and Eddie Griffin was the man he was like Rasheed Wallace except did not gets as much coochie sadly.  

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  • #665633
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    Just because you have a lot of talent on your team doesn’t mean you automatically are a contender or an elite team.

    Yeah Marbury and Brandon put up big nunbers but combined they played 22 seasons and made it out of the 1st round 2 times total not exactly winners.

    Marko Jaric also was the starting Pg for the majority of 05-06.  Cassel played only 2 season w/Minnesota averaging 7 and 5 asts not exactly grt numbers for an PG who was in his 11 and 12 season.

    Twolves also got into some bad matchups in the 1st round against better teams like the Spurs, Rockets, Sonics and Lakers.

    In 2000 playoffs they struggled losing to very good Blazers team which should’ve won the Finals that year.  Outside of that series and the 2002 playoffs he’s played pretty well in the playoffs.

    As for Billups he was nothing special with the Twolves for the 2 yrs he was there at least compared to the player he ended up being for the Pistons.

    Defensively the Twolves were awful many of those seasons finishing 23, 17, 25, 16, 11, 14, 13, 18, 7, 9, 8, 19,

    The year they made the Conf. Finals they were ranked 7th the following year the offense was weak and dropped to 16th.

    They never put a solid big man next to KG guys like Joe Smith, Nesterovic, Olowakandi, Cherokee Parks, Sam Mitchell, Dean Garrett, Gary Trent, Loren Woods, Marc Jackson, Mark Madsen, Craig Smith, Mark Blount, Eddie Griffin, Adrea Patterson were all underachievers.

    Also Gugliotta played with Minnesota from 95-98 when Minny was not that good and obviously KG was very young.

    Kevin McHale has to take a lot of blame for the team he helped put together in Minnesota too.  They lost 3 of 5 1st rounders from 2000-2005

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  • #665653
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     I’m not going to lie. I read Dede’s first few posts and from then on I didn’t even bother and just gave him negs. I feel like a bad guy… Sort of… But I also really hate when you post those page long stats that are largely irrelevant to whatever it is you are arguing

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  • #665709
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    Let’s just agree that Manu is the best south American player ever

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  • #665716
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    DipoTime
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     If you are born in Europe but you play college and a lot of times even high school basketball here in America, then how can you call them international prospects or players? An international player has to at least have experience playing overseas don’t they? I would consider Kanter international to answer your question. He signed with Kentucky and moved here but grew up playing overseas including for his Olympic team if I’m not mistaken and never played a single game for Kentucky. Tim Duncan grew up playing in America, he went to wake forest, all of his experience basketball wise has been American. Same with Nash. So how can they be considered international players? Nowitzki? Sure. I just don’t see how you can base it off of where you were born.

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  • #665741
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     LMAO @UNCbballAlum…

    i think Duncan is the type of player who made everyone around him better (not saying Garnett doesnt)…Duncan would have probably won 1 or 2 and Garnett maybe 1…people forget the Twin Towers baby!

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  • #665747
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    This was a good topic…

    I liked Kevin Garnett better than Tim Duncan. Duncan was boring, while Garnett was flashy, talented and just so much fun to watch. 20, 10 and 5… Plus a block and a steal too. I used to love his move in the post where he’d hit you with the reverse pivot and then give you about 3-4 ball fakes before shooting it right over you. He could handle the ball. He could defend guards. He was so talented. Elite athlete.

    However, Duncan was better. He was better for two reasons. One, he was more of a defensive building block when it came to protecting the rim. Garnett was an amazing defender, but he didn’t really protect the basket. Two, because Duncan was a true top option and go-to player on offense. I thought KG kind of shied away from being the go-to player down the stretch of games. Duncan was more fundamentally sound and a better back to the basket post player.

    Garnett had the tools to be the best power forward ever, but I thought he drifted around the perimeter too often and like I said above… Sometimes didn’t want the ball down the stretch.

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  • #665766
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    TomShoe
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     If Duncan had been on the T-Wolves, I doubt he’d have won as many championships as he has. RC Buford is a great GM, and Popovich is one of the greatest coaches ever. If it wasn’t for RC drafting huge steals like Manu, Tony, DeJuan Blair, and Kawhi Leonard, and Popovich squeezing the maximum amount of production out of guys like Matt Bonner and Danny Green, Duncan would have a much harder time winning like he has. David Kahn would put Timmy out of his misery by drafting PG after PG until he finds a decent one in 5 years.

    I’m just sayin’, but as great as Kevin Garnett is, he never won a title in Minny for a reason.

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  • #665768
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    I guarantee you that Duncan wouldve led the Wolves out of the 1st round atleast in 1 of those years that KG didnt. With that being said, Duncan also underachieved. There were times were he was flat out the best player in the series against the Lakers but didnt dominate like he shouldve. They had non one to stop him. He couldve averaged 35ppg if he wanted but he didnt have that in him and they lost

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  • #665784
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    RC Buford deserves credit. Coach Pop deserves credit. But there’s a reason Tim Duncan will go down as arguably the greatest power forward ever. It’s because he makes his teammates better. Over the years, a lot of his teammates have changed, but the results are the same.

    Sure, he’s had consistent teammates with Manu Ginobli and Tony Parker, but they haven’t always been healthy.

    Duncan makes the game easy for anyone that suits up with him. He makes average players look good.

     

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  • #665804
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    aamir543
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    WizofOz, somtimes just because you can put up 35 or 40 on a good percentage doesn’t mean that your team is better off with you doing so. Remember Dwight last year, he had those two monster games against the Hawks, but they lost both, and remember, Duncan could’ve easily averaged 28 and 10 for about 7 years straight if the Spurs were a bit more up tempo. They were really slow and methodical, but it played to their strengths and got them 4 championships, and I love how coach Pop sdjusts to his personel and is now an up tempo three point shooting team built around Tony and Timmy and the depth of their bench.

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  • #665829
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    dede21

     The weird think about Duncan was he was a choker, Lebron gets categorized as such when it is not the case Duncan would get tight in his sphincter at the foul line in the clutch though he was showed up in big games and other late game aspects.  Probably would of won 6 titles if he had looser booty muscles at the line

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  • #665843
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    Hale
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    Duncan’s team were pretty much always better then Garnett’s. But for the reasons IndianaBasketball stated, Duncan was still the better player. Duncan on the Wolves might’ve won a ring, and Garnett probably would’ve won a few in San Antonio.

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  • #665844
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    ^What? I don’t remember one instance where he choked. Yes he might have been outplayed by Dirk in 2006, but Dirk was amazing in that series, and Duncan was great as well. 

    And when you talk about free throws and Duncan, it’s a bit odd. In 01-02 he was an 80% foul shooter, then in 03-04 he was a 59% foul shooter. Ever since he’s had a couple seasons around 62%-63%, but mostly he’s been around 69%-73%. Lebron has been anwhere from 69% to 78%, which brings his career average to around 75%.

    But back to the point, Duncan was not a choker, he was the guy that went head to head with Dirk, Amare, and other big guys, during their 2003 championship run, he averaged 25 15 and 5 and 3 blocks, he was a beast, I never remember him choking, hell do you remember that threee he hit against he Suns when Shaq was there? Do you remember those epic battles between Shaq, a couple of which he won. Duncan was a calm and composed assasain that could put up really good numbers, but helped you win. Some people look for those guady 30 and 12 numbers, but like I said earlier in the thread, they were a slow paced team.

    Here are the Spurs’ offensive ranks in ppg from 1999-2000 season till this season(it’s out of 29 for the first couple seasons, and then 30 starting in the 04-05 season when the Bobcats joined)  21, 12 10, 12, 19, 18, 21, 14, 28, 23, 15, 6, 2.

    So as you can see, the past couple seasons they’ve really picked up the scoring, which is why I think Pop is the coach of the year, when he realized his team was slipping he changed their identity according to the personel, and it produced wins. But for most of the eyars they’re either in the late-mid or the early-mid of the pack, and keep in mind this is still that the worst win percentage they’ve had since Duncan was drafted was .610, and that was a 50 win season in 10, and the rest of the seasons(other than the lockout seasons) they had at least 54 wins.

    These are the Spurs’ rank in opponents points allowed from 98-99 till this season. 3, 1, 3, 3, 3, 1, 1, 2, 1, 3, 2, 8, 14, 16.

    They were a top 3 defensive team for every single year form 99- 09, an 11 year span, and the anchor of that league leading defense, Tim Duncan. If they had picked up the pace, they might not have been as successfull, but I garuntee you Timmy would have some guady Shaq-esque stats.(Not comparing the two, just saying Duncan would’ve had 29 and 13 if the Spurs were a run’n gun team, at least a faster team.
     

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     Just noticed the pace rankings on Basketball-Reference, and this supports my arguement even better, here are their rankings as far as pace goes, the slower the pace, the lower the rank. From 99 to this year, 19, 24, 23, 19, 20, 19, 23, 23, 27, 28, 26, 20, 14, 7.

    As you can see, they were always just around the bottom third in pace, and as Timmy got a bit older(If you look at his stats, you’ll notice they started toning down his mintues when he was around 28. He still got 33 or 34 per night, but not 40 like he did early on) they went even slower, and now they’ve picked it up a bit. They weren’t too slow, but you can easily argue that Timmy’s numbers would have been inflated and better on a team that was around 10th rather than 20th.

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    Bmore_DC
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    Duncan was a choker???? LMFAO …minus one for you sir

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    DuncanRules
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    I think my reply is a bit biased…lol. I prefer Duncan’s presence on offense as well as defense over Garnett. Garnett was sesnational talent, but Duncan is the GOAT of PF’s.

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