Donald Sterling punishment

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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 6:33pm #55121

Russell0Westbrook
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I would love it if new commish Adam Silver forced Sterling to sell his team to a group led by Magic Johnson for the estimated value of the team and not what Sterling would want and ban him for life Pete Rose style… Any other punishment suggestions?
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 6:38pm #894549

imAboutDatAction
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Silver works for the owners. not the other way around. he really cant come down with such harsh punishment by himself.
the owners need to come togetheir with Silver to get Sterling out of there. both parties involved can help him sell the team or give up his owneship to his family members.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 6:38pm #894437

imAboutDatAction
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Silver works for the owners. not the other way around. he really cant come down with such harsh punishment by himself.
the owners need to come togetheir with Silver to get Sterling out of there. both parties involved can help him sell the team or give up his owneship to his family members.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 7:18pm #894553

laarethekings
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I think the NBA will pull a page out of the NFL’s book with the 49ers and Eddie Debartolo. Sterling will have to give up title of the team to someone in his family and will not be allowed to have contact in anyway with the team. But the team will be able to say in the family.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 7:18pm #894441

laarethekings
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I think the NBA will pull a page out of the NFL’s book with the 49ers and Eddie Debartolo. Sterling will have to give up title of the team to someone in his family and will not be allowed to have contact in anyway with the team. But the team will be able to say in the family.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 7:31pm #894557

Russell0Westbrook
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I’m sure they can’t dictate who he sell to or make him but it would be scool if they could and gave it to Magic
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 7:31pm #894445

Russell0Westbrook
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I’m sure they can’t dictate who he sell to or make him but it would be scool if they could and gave it to Magic
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 7:48pm #894565

Mopgrass
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Can they take the team? If Sterling stays, it will be hard to get players to join the team. I wonder if players will leave as it is. What a mess?
I think it would be insanely hard to be on that team right now.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 7:48pm #894453

Mopgrass
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Can they take the team? If Sterling stays, it will be hard to get players to join the team. I wonder if players will leave as it is. What a mess?
I think it would be insanely hard to be on that team right now.
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 8:28pm #894576

tuck243
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I can see it already… This is only an issue because it reach so many ppl and so fast… They didn’t do anything to him prior to this and it kills me the NBA acts as if it’s no place for this now… Anything that will be done to him is strictly to protect the league’s brand and not because of the racist he is… With his wife coming out and saying she’s not racist, shows what’s about to happen…
She also said she don’t know if that’s him or not…. How in the hell you don’t know your husband’s voice when y’all have been married for over 50 years? The lawsuit SHE filed against the mistress got "Scandal" type crap written all over it… This is disgusting all the way around… I hope they don’t insult our intelligence and let a "I’m not a racist, but my husband for 50 years is" woman take control of the team… Claiming ignorance is just as bad… Sad thing is I don’t know if they can do much but ban him from operations….
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 8:28pm #894463

tuck243
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I can see it already… This is only an issue because it reach so many ppl and so fast… They didn’t do anything to him prior to this and it kills me the NBA acts as if it’s no place for this now… Anything that will be done to him is strictly to protect the league’s brand and not because of the racist he is… With his wife coming out and saying she’s not racist, shows what’s about to happen…
She also said she don’t know if that’s him or not…. How in the hell you don’t know your husband’s voice when y’all have been married for over 50 years? The lawsuit SHE filed against the mistress got "Scandal" type crap written all over it… This is disgusting all the way around… I hope they don’t insult our intelligence and let a "I’m not a racist, but my husband for 50 years is" woman take control of the team… Claiming ignorance is just as bad… Sad thing is I don’t know if they can do much but ban him from operations….
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 8:58pm #894469

Mr. HookShot
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Two things come to mind regarding a potential punishment. First point is that Sterling is illegially taped, as his permission is not asked, so this ‘evidence’ wouldn’t hold in court or something. So pushing him out based on that alone would not be possible (I guess). So the second point is that his potential punishment is completely depended on the other owners (and Silver), and the extent to which they have the possibility to discipline other owners. If there are any rules and possibilities for this (e.g. if all owners vote unanimous for Sterling to ‘sell’ it for market value to the league or something), owners will definitely do this.
Now the problem is what happens when there are not means for the league and its owners to disclipline Sterling. With all the outside pressure from players, media and the general public one would think Sterling will be forced out, even when owners/league cannot do anything. If players refuse to sign with the Clippers for instance, then what? However, does such logic even apply to a guy like Sterling? He lives by ignorant standards from over 60/70 years ago, with his views are unexplanable by any logic.
He should be forced out one way or the other. Question is does the league has the means to do so?
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- Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 9:10pm #894471
  
  tuck243
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  They didn’t obtain the recording illegally… So once they authenticate the voice they can use it against him… The burden is rested with the person recorded it and that person said they didn’t release the tape to TMZ… Ways around it
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- Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 9:10pm #894584
  
  tuck243
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  They didn’t obtain the recording illegally… So once they authenticate the voice they can use it against him… The burden is rested with the person recorded it and that person said they didn’t release the tape to TMZ… Ways around it
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Posted on: Sun, 04/27/2014 - 8:58pm #894582

Mr. HookShot
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Two things come to mind regarding a potential punishment. First point is that Sterling is illegially taped, as his permission is not asked, so this ‘evidence’ wouldn’t hold in court or something. So pushing him out based on that alone would not be possible (I guess). So the second point is that his potential punishment is completely depended on the other owners (and Silver), and the extent to which they have the possibility to discipline other owners. If there are any rules and possibilities for this (e.g. if all owners vote unanimous for Sterling to ‘sell’ it for market value to the league or something), owners will definitely do this.
Now the problem is what happens when there are not means for the league and its owners to disclipline Sterling. With all the outside pressure from players, media and the general public one would think Sterling will be forced out, even when owners/league cannot do anything. If players refuse to sign with the Clippers for instance, then what? However, does such logic even apply to a guy like Sterling? He lives by ignorant standards from over 60/70 years ago, with his views are unexplanable by any logic.
He should be forced out one way or the other. Question is does the league has the means to do so?
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 12:41am #894489

Ihateusernames
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It’s hard to "suspend’ an owner, but a hefty fine say $20 million?
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 12:41am #894602

Ihateusernames
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It’s hard to "suspend’ an owner, but a hefty fine say $20 million?
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 1:52am #894493

doubledribbler
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He can be removed. MLB did it with the Dodgers owner a few years ago and I believe he still got to keep ownership of the parking lot, it is just not always a simple process. That guy didn’t have the money that he told the league he had, which was only found out because of his divorce. The owners may have to change some of their rules, but it can be done and it will be done if it gets to the point where the Clippers become financially toxic. If no one wants to deal with him then he starts affecting the type of money the league generates. When it is all said and done Sterling will likely end up with a ton of money for the franchise, which he will probably have to split with his soon to be ex-wife, but if the Bucks can go for over 500 million, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Clippers go for at least 1 billion. Magic and his buddies that bought the Dodgers will probably swoop in to buy the team.
As for people talking about the recording, I am unsure if it is illegal or not. Different states have different rules on it, but realistically that doesn’t matter because this is not something that is being used in court as much as something out there for the public. It is out in the open and the damage is done.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 3:33am #894509
  
  capecodder
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  It all smells….from his mistress and her alleged embezzlement to his arrogance and stupidity…..the only thing as disgusting was seeing Al Sharpton threatining to boycott advertisers
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 3:33am #894623
  
  capecodder
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  It all smells….from his mistress and her alleged embezzlement to his arrogance and stupidity…..the only thing as disgusting was seeing Al Sharpton threatining to boycott advertisers
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 7:07am #894554
  
  Magic Jordan
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  No he cannot be removed, the by laws specifically state otherwise. What has happened in the MLB or the NFL has no relevance in this instance because the by laws for NBA owners are nothing like those other ones, I don’t know why people keep insisting on this.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 7:07am #894667
  
  Magic Jordan
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  No he cannot be removed, the by laws specifically state otherwise. What has happened in the MLB or the NFL has no relevance in this instance because the by laws for NBA owners are nothing like those other ones, I don’t know why people keep insisting on this.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 1:52am #894606

doubledribbler
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He can be removed. MLB did it with the Dodgers owner a few years ago and I believe he still got to keep ownership of the parking lot, it is just not always a simple process. That guy didn’t have the money that he told the league he had, which was only found out because of his divorce. The owners may have to change some of their rules, but it can be done and it will be done if it gets to the point where the Clippers become financially toxic. If no one wants to deal with him then he starts affecting the type of money the league generates. When it is all said and done Sterling will likely end up with a ton of money for the franchise, which he will probably have to split with his soon to be ex-wife, but if the Bucks can go for over 500 million, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Clippers go for at least 1 billion. Magic and his buddies that bought the Dodgers will probably swoop in to buy the team.
As for people talking about the recording, I am unsure if it is illegal or not. Different states have different rules on it, but realistically that doesn’t matter because this is not something that is being used in court as much as something out there for the public. It is out in the open and the damage is done.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 3:56am #894515

lopatata
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Stop his Viagra! 😀
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 3:56am #894629

lopatata
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Stop his Viagra! 😀
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 6:37am #894545

darkman97
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Ok this is what I think should happen.
I’ll start off by saying, it hasn’t been proven that that is him on the tape. (Even though I believe it is him or he or his lawyers/representatives would have denied the tape by now) But if it is proven to be him on the tape and not just his mistress trying to BLACKMALE him, (mispelled on purpose) here is my idea of punishment.
First there needs to be a hefty fine and the cliche mandatory racial sensitive training classes. I would also take a few years of first round draft picks away from them. Then they should "strongly suggest" that he tears up every exsisting contract of players/coaches/admin that WANTS to leave the team and become free agents at the end of this season. This would leave him with the players that are not desired by other teams and almost make the Clippers a expansion team again.
Don’t get me wrong, I do think if it comes down to not being on a NBA team or playing for his team, he will still be able to put a team together and even a prodominatly African American team. I do think that with the big deal right now over the comments, that none of the current players would stay unless they can’t find spots on other teams.

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- Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 9:07am #894730
  
  Mr. HookShot
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  Does this not punish the Clippers fan more than the owner? Not saying he shouldn’t be punished, but I’m not sure this is the way to go.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 9:07am #894616
  
  Mr. HookShot
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  Does this not punish the Clippers fan more than the owner? Not saying he shouldn’t be punished, but I’m not sure this is the way to go.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 9:51am #894773
    
    darkman97
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    Yes Mr. Hookshot, this would punish the fan base too, (a true fan of the team will continue to be a fan) but a fine to a billionaire isn’t exactly the way to go either. I am thinking about the players/coaches/admin that are stuck in contracts that would love to leave and play for a owner that either respects them or at least they think respects them. Who knows how many owners have the same feelings as this? And tearing up contracts, like I stated, wouldn’t cost him his team nor would it leave him void of players. Players would still go there and play if that was their choice. But I know you can understand the current players not wanting to stick out this contract and finding out that your boss is racist towards you, you should have the right to leave.
    I live in Minnesota and root for the Timberwolves and a while back we got caught giving Joe Smith under the table money and when the powers that be found out, they stripped the Timberwolves of their first round draft picks for I think was seven years. (don’t quote me on the # of years) This hurt the team and the fan base. We had Kevin Garnett and a bunch of second round talent for years. I think if they were willing and able to do this to us, it’s fair game for him.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 9:51am #894659
    
    darkman97
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    Yes Mr. Hookshot, this would punish the fan base too, (a true fan of the team will continue to be a fan) but a fine to a billionaire isn’t exactly the way to go either. I am thinking about the players/coaches/admin that are stuck in contracts that would love to leave and play for a owner that either respects them or at least they think respects them. Who knows how many owners have the same feelings as this? And tearing up contracts, like I stated, wouldn’t cost him his team nor would it leave him void of players. Players would still go there and play if that was their choice. But I know you can understand the current players not wanting to stick out this contract and finding out that your boss is racist towards you, you should have the right to leave.
    I live in Minnesota and root for the Timberwolves and a while back we got caught giving Joe Smith under the table money and when the powers that be found out, they stripped the Timberwolves of their first round draft picks for I think was seven years. (don’t quote me on the # of years) This hurt the team and the fan base. We had Kevin Garnett and a bunch of second round talent for years. I think if they were willing and able to do this to us, it’s fair game for him.
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    - Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 10:03am #894783
      
      darkman97
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      Add on that this isn’t a death sentence. He can easily salvage this by turning his views around quickly and showing potential star free agents that the Clippers are a team they should look into joining. Right now his view in public opinion isn’t great, but with work, he can make it better.
      As far as hurting the fan base mor than the owner… the #1 fan is usually the team owner and if he is forced to put out a mediocre team it will hurt him both as a fan and an owner. Good luck filling the Staples Center with a NBDL team and the jersey sells from Joe Smo.
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    - Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 10:03am #894668
      
      darkman97
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      Add on that this isn’t a death sentence. He can easily salvage this by turning his views around quickly and showing potential star free agents that the Clippers are a team they should look into joining. Right now his view in public opinion isn’t great, but with work, he can make it better.
      As far as hurting the fan base mor than the owner… the #1 fan is usually the team owner and if he is forced to put out a mediocre team it will hurt him both as a fan and an owner. Good luck filling the Staples Center with a NBDL team and the jersey sells from Joe Smo.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 6:37am #894658

darkman97
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Ok this is what I think should happen.
I’ll start off by saying, it hasn’t been proven that that is him on the tape. (Even though I believe it is him or he or his lawyers/representatives would have denied the tape by now) But if it is proven to be him on the tape and not just his mistress trying to BLACKMALE him, (mispelled on purpose) here is my idea of punishment.
First there needs to be a hefty fine and the cliche mandatory racial sensitive training classes. I would also take a few years of first round draft picks away from them. Then they should "strongly suggest" that he tears up every exsisting contract of players/coaches/admin that WANTS to leave the team and become free agents at the end of this season. This would leave him with the players that are not desired by other teams and almost make the Clippers a expansion team again.
Don’t get me wrong, I do think if it comes down to not being on a NBA team or playing for his team, he will still be able to put a team together and even a prodominatly African American team. I do think that with the big deal right now over the comments, that none of the current players would stay unless they can’t find spots on other teams.

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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 7:06am #894552

Magic Jordan
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Yeah I don’t understand the medias constant persistance the past few days that Silver force Sterling to sell the team. All of that spewed is non sense as the by laws of the NBA specifically state a owner cannot be forced out.
Unfortunately I think the harshest punishment can be a hefty fine, I don’t even think that they can force him to not come to his games, though he would be a fool to.
Bottom line is if Sterling doesn’t want to sell his team he doesn’t have to. And why would he when he can say whatever the hell he wants and the Clippers players choose to throw their Jersey’s in the middle of the floor like that is making a statement? They had a once in a lifetime opportunity to stick it to their boss with the support of basically the whole country and they chose to take the floor and make him even more money. Just like they will again.

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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 7:06am #894665

Magic Jordan
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Yeah I don’t understand the medias constant persistance the past few days that Silver force Sterling to sell the team. All of that spewed is non sense as the by laws of the NBA specifically state a owner cannot be forced out.
Unfortunately I think the harshest punishment can be a hefty fine, I don’t even think that they can force him to not come to his games, though he would be a fool to.
Bottom line is if Sterling doesn’t want to sell his team he doesn’t have to. And why would he when he can say whatever the hell he wants and the Clippers players choose to throw their Jersey’s in the middle of the floor like that is making a statement? They had a once in a lifetime opportunity to stick it to their boss with the support of basically the whole country and they chose to take the floor and make him even more money. Just like they will again.

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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 9:25am #894742

Moon River
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The only thing that could have made this situation any worse is if the mistress would have released a Sterling/Mistress sex tape.
I hope some how some way the other owners get this guy out of the league.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 9:25am #894628

Moon River
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The only thing that could have made this situation any worse is if the mistress would have released a Sterling/Mistress sex tape.
I hope some how some way the other owners get this guy out of the league.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 9:27am #894746

Mr. HookShot
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but NBA owners do vote about expansion, and whether they want this yes or no. Is it then also not possible that they vote about this subject? In the sense that they are able to ban an owner when he is far out of line like Sterling is. After all, Sterling’s comments also negatively affect the other owners (as it negatively affects the entire NBA), and I assume there should be some rules/possibilities for NBA owners (maybe together with the commisioner) to protect their investments? Knowing the NBA is a well-thought of organization, I assume there are some protocols to deal with owners going crazy.
Anyone any idea if that is the case actually? Do the (remaining) owners have the authority to vote about Sterling?
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Posted on: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 9:27am #894632

Mr. HookShot
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but NBA owners do vote about expansion, and whether they want this yes or no. Is it then also not possible that they vote about this subject? In the sense that they are able to ban an owner when he is far out of line like Sterling is. After all, Sterling’s comments also negatively affect the other owners (as it negatively affects the entire NBA), and I assume there should be some rules/possibilities for NBA owners (maybe together with the commisioner) to protect their investments? Knowing the NBA is a well-thought of organization, I assume there are some protocols to deal with owners going crazy.
Anyone any idea if that is the case actually? Do the (remaining) owners have the authority to vote about Sterling?
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