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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 9:06am #31499

laarethekings
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Being that the lockout is on and were the dog days of summer wanted to ask a baseball question.
Had this talk with my bro… If you were the St Lou Cardinals would you sign Albert Pujols to the 300 million he’s looking for?
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Sign Jose Reyes and Prince Fielder to 150 million deals each… getting them both.
I say sign Reyes/Fielder combo… get much more bang for your buck. Plus you fill the SS with one of the best in baseball.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 9:12am #563603

I’m Actually Not Mcdunkin so here is your swag back
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Reyes/Fielder are both possible al/nl mvps so you definitely choose them.. Lately I might even take Reyes over Pujols alone.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 9:12am #563687

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Reyes/Fielder are both possible al/nl mvps so you definitely choose them.. Lately I might even take Reyes over Pujols alone.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 9:26am #563619

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Pujols won’t get 300 million anyway.
Teams like the Mets and Dodgers are having major financial problems.
The Yankees already have Arod and Mark Texieria at the corners and its doubtful they pony up 30 mill for a DH. I bet he ends up signing with the Cards for maybe 25 -27 mill a year for like 6 years.
Who can afford to pay a guy 30 mill a year the Cubs, Angels?
Some owners are rich like the Mariners guy but will they really fork over that much money doubtful.
Fielder will get paid maybe 22-24 mill per year
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/albert_pujols/

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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 9:26am #563703

NYK2010
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Pujols won’t get 300 million anyway.
Teams like the Mets and Dodgers are having major financial problems.
The Yankees already have Arod and Mark Texieria at the corners and its doubtful they pony up 30 mill for a DH. I bet he ends up signing with the Cards for maybe 25 -27 mill a year for like 6 years.
Who can afford to pay a guy 30 mill a year the Cubs, Angels?
Some owners are rich like the Mariners guy but will they really fork over that much money doubtful.
Fielder will get paid maybe 22-24 mill per year
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/albert_pujols/

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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 9:27am #563625

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300 MILLION??!!!??!! That number was ridculous three months ago when thats what he was asking. Now hes having the worst year of his career and the injuries. This is pure speculation but I wouldnt be surprised if he was a few years older than his listed 31 years. Hes been THE face of that franchise but hes on the downside of his career. Giving a quarter of their payroll to one guy is way to risky for them to give to Pujols. Id take Fielder/Reyes for sure.
Theres weight/defense concerns over Fielder but watching him here in Milwaukee hes been a rock missing only 13 games since becoming a full time starter. Defense might be a problem with him at the end of his contract. Hes an ok defender now but hell be approaching mid 30s at the end of his deal and he is a very big guy. I think and AL team will end up offering him the most money. Im still hoping he’ll give MIL a hometown discount but that hasnt happened yet and I dont expect him to now.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 9:27am #563708

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300 MILLION??!!!??!! That number was ridculous three months ago when thats what he was asking. Now hes having the worst year of his career and the injuries. This is pure speculation but I wouldnt be surprised if he was a few years older than his listed 31 years. Hes been THE face of that franchise but hes on the downside of his career. Giving a quarter of their payroll to one guy is way to risky for them to give to Pujols. Id take Fielder/Reyes for sure.
Theres weight/defense concerns over Fielder but watching him here in Milwaukee hes been a rock missing only 13 games since becoming a full time starter. Defense might be a problem with him at the end of his contract. Hes an ok defender now but hell be approaching mid 30s at the end of his deal and he is a very big guy. I think and AL team will end up offering him the most money. Im still hoping he’ll give MIL a hometown discount but that hasnt happened yet and I dont expect him to now.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 9:28am #563627

BasterdInABasket
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Reyes/Fielder are both possible al/nl mvps
? Theyre both in the NL
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 9:28am #563710

BasterdInABasket
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Reyes/Fielder are both possible al/nl mvps
? Theyre both in the NL
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:05am #563736

Platypus
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as a tigers fan i would just love to get another pitcher, we have one starter who is good but the others suck we also need a right fielder and 2nd baseman just as bad.
Idea:
move cabrera to right field and sign Prince Fielder to play 1st and sign a 2nd baseman like orlando cabrera and pray for our pitchers to actually pitch decent besides verlander who will be the al cy young
dh Martinez
1 Prince
2 O. cabrera
ss Peralata
3 Inge
lf one of our young guys
cf Jackson
rf Cabrera
c Avila
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:05am #563652

Platypus
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as a tigers fan i would just love to get another pitcher, we have one starter who is good but the others suck we also need a right fielder and 2nd baseman just as bad.
Idea:
move cabrera to right field and sign Prince Fielder to play 1st and sign a 2nd baseman like orlando cabrera and pray for our pitchers to actually pitch decent besides verlander who will be the al cy young
dh Martinez
1 Prince
2 O. cabrera
ss Peralata
3 Inge
lf one of our young guys
cf Jackson
rf Cabrera
c Avila
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:31am #563755

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I would take take Prince Fielder and Jose Reyes over Albert Puyols simply because they are playing better baseball and they are younger .Not also are the playing better baseball but its 2 people over 1 and those 2 are both playing better then Albert is .So to me this is a no doubter and i would without hesitation pick Reyes and Fielder .
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:31am #563670

rileymcshea3
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I would take take Prince Fielder and Jose Reyes over Albert Puyols simply because they are playing better baseball and they are younger .Not also are the playing better baseball but its 2 people over 1 and those 2 are both playing better then Albert is .So to me this is a no doubter and i would without hesitation pick Reyes and Fielder .
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:39am #563761

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I would take 2005 Albert Pujols for 350 million. But this is the 2012 Pujols, so no. I would overpay for Reyes. Injuries are the only thing that scare me. Fielder is also very good. But Lincecum is the best.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:39am #563676

aamir543
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I would take 2005 Albert Pujols for 350 million. But this is the 2012 Pujols, so no. I would overpay for Reyes. Injuries are the only thing that scare me. Fielder is also very good. But Lincecum is the best.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:43am #563767

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Reyes over Pujols?!
Reyes is great but he relies on his legs, something that isn’t going to work out well when he gets older. Plus he is already getting injury prone with his hamstrings. Pujols is an absolute beast and is coming back a month early from a broken wrist.
And Fielder is going to get more than $150 million. Someone will overpay for a guy that is going to burn out due to his build unless he starts to trim down.
I’m still taking Pujols over anyone in the game right now.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:43am #563682

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Reyes over Pujols?!
Reyes is great but he relies on his legs, something that isn’t going to work out well when he gets older. Plus he is already getting injury prone with his hamstrings. Pujols is an absolute beast and is coming back a month early from a broken wrist.
And Fielder is going to get more than $150 million. Someone will overpay for a guy that is going to burn out due to his build unless he starts to trim down.
I’m still taking Pujols over anyone in the game right now.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:46am #563773

DanEboy
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Whoever neg’d me, I would love to get into a baseball debate with you.
Show your face!!!!!!!!!
And Halladay > Timmy
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:46am #563688

DanEboy
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Whoever neg’d me, I would love to get into a baseball debate with you.
Show your face!!!!!!!!!
And Halladay > Timmy
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 11:57am #563745

laarethekings
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Gonzalzez got 7 years 154 from the red sox… Fielder could get 160 to 165…
Crawford got 7 for 142…. I don’t see Reyes getting that… see him getting 6 years 122ish…
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 11:57am #563830

laarethekings
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Gonzalzez got 7 years 154 from the red sox… Fielder could get 160 to 165…
Crawford got 7 for 142…. I don’t see Reyes getting that… see him getting 6 years 122ish…
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 12:30pm #563780

Malik-Universal
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u think the tigers can win the AL central
to me there not consistent enuff
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 12:30pm #563866

Malik-Universal
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u think the tigers can win the AL central
to me there not consistent enuff
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 12:56pm #563794

GottaBeTheShoes
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DanEboy.. Why are you caring about points? It seems like everyone here acts like they don’t care about their points but secretly do..
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 12:56pm #563880

GottaBeTheShoes
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DanEboy.. Why are you caring about points? It seems like everyone here acts like they don’t care about their points but secretly do..
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:09pm #563804

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I take Reyes/Fielder you get a skilled up the middle player in Reyes, and a man who hits for power similar to Pujols, and its a spark at the top of the lineup if Reyes can stay Healthy
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:09pm #563890

tyasay
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I take Reyes/Fielder you get a skilled up the middle player in Reyes, and a man who hits for power similar to Pujols, and its a spark at the top of the lineup if Reyes can stay Healthy
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:19pm #563811

DanEboy
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I don’t care about points AgentZero. I just want the person who disagrees with me to explain why, instead of just thumbing down. I could talk baseball all damn day.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:19pm #563898

DanEboy
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I don’t care about points AgentZero. I just want the person who disagrees with me to explain why, instead of just thumbing down. I could talk baseball all damn day.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:19pm #563813

TRC1991
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you know the nba is on lockout when the last 4 topics i’ve read are as followed:
Delonte denies sex with Bron’s mom
Cousins travels in exhibition game
Casey Anthony not guilty
Baseball…
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:19pm #563900

TRC1991
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you know the nba is on lockout when the last 4 topics i’ve read are as followed:
Delonte denies sex with Bron’s mom
Cousins travels in exhibition game
Casey Anthony not guilty
Baseball…
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:24pm #563817

DanEboy
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And Fielder is going to command just as much money as Pujols. He is 4 years younger and having an incredible season. Plus, Boras is his agent so expect a $200 million deal.
The Mets are going to make an offer to Reyes mostly because they don’t want to piss off their fans. They love him there but I bet the Mets are skeptical about giving a ton of cash to the typr of player that doesn’t put up numbers past the age of 35 when their legs start to go.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:24pm #563904

DanEboy
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And Fielder is going to command just as much money as Pujols. He is 4 years younger and having an incredible season. Plus, Boras is his agent so expect a $200 million deal.
The Mets are going to make an offer to Reyes mostly because they don’t want to piss off their fans. They love him there but I bet the Mets are skeptical about giving a ton of cash to the typr of player that doesn’t put up numbers past the age of 35 when their legs start to go.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:25pm #563823

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@DanEboy, I didn’t neg you but……Lincecum>Halladay+Oswalt+Hamels+Lee.

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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:25pm #563909

aamir543
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@DanEboy, I didn’t neg you but……Lincecum>Halladay+Oswalt+Hamels+Lee.

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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:33pm #563831

DanEboy
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Ha! You can neg me all you want, if you explain why, not mad.
Timmy is great and you can’t go wrong either way. I just think Halladay is the best all around pitcher on the planet. And I am not a fan of the Phillies.The pitching in baseball today is loaded with talent.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:33pm #563918

DanEboy
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Ha! You can neg me all you want, if you explain why, not mad.
Timmy is great and you can’t go wrong either way. I just think Halladay is the best all around pitcher on the planet. And I am not a fan of the Phillies.The pitching in baseball today is loaded with talent.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:47pm #563833

aamir543
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Ok, from a non-biased view, I will admit Halladay is the best in the game.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 1:47pm #563920

aamir543
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Ok, from a non-biased view, I will admit Halladay is the best in the game.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 3:41pm #564004

Platypus
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to be honest the cant win the al central they have one starting pitcher, the other pitchers suck, we need people in the bullpen, right and left field so no but maybe next year because we should have more money to spend because we will get a ton back from ordonez and guillen’s horrible contracts
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 3:41pm #563917

Platypus
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to be honest the cant win the al central they have one starting pitcher, the other pitchers suck, we need people in the bullpen, right and left field so no but maybe next year because we should have more money to spend because we will get a ton back from ordonez and guillen’s horrible contracts
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 3:47pm #564010

Lotto Stud
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Not a fan of Baseball, but I follow the Upton’s since they are from my city……..I took the liberty to enjoy Track & Field once again this Summer though.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 3:47pm #563923

Lotto Stud
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Not a fan of Baseball, but I follow the Upton’s since they are from my city……..I took the liberty to enjoy Track & Field once again this Summer though.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 4:36pm #564034

kanyedabest
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no way in hell i pay him anywhere near that 300 mill mark
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 4:36pm #563947

kanyedabest
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no way in hell i pay him anywhere near that 300 mill mark
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 6:08pm #564017

EGbball3
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Baseballs just a money game. That’s why your always seeing the Yanks and the Bo Sox at the top every damn year.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/05/2011 - 6:08pm #564105

EGbball3
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Baseballs just a money game. That’s why your always seeing the Yanks and the Bo Sox at the top every damn year.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2011 - 4:02am #564057

Chicago1980
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There is no way you can pay a position player no matter how good he is or how good he has been 300 million dollars especially at the age Pujols is he is 30 right now so by the end of the 10 year contract he will be 40 no one is doing steroids anymore so when he is 36 you ae not going to be getting the smae player that u have at 30. So I say pass on pujols and try to sign P Fielder hes younger and cheaper and you are basically getting the same type of player.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2011 - 4:02am #564144

Chicago1980
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There is no way you can pay a position player no matter how good he is or how good he has been 300 million dollars especially at the age Pujols is he is 30 right now so by the end of the 10 year contract he will be 40 no one is doing steroids anymore so when he is 36 you ae not going to be getting the smae player that u have at 30. So I say pass on pujols and try to sign P Fielder hes younger and cheaper and you are basically getting the same type of player.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2011 - 4:55am #564084

R-Dot-13
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Do you guys still think he’s the best in the league?
I may be saying this cause Im Canadian but Im starting to think that Jose Bautista may be the best… Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes and Adrian Gonzalez are awesome aswell.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2011 - 4:55am #564172

R-Dot-13
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Do you guys still think he’s the best in the league?
I may be saying this cause Im Canadian but Im starting to think that Jose Bautista may be the best… Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes and Adrian Gonzalez are awesome aswell.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2011 - 9:31am #564260

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Yeah baseball desperately needs a salary cap. A couple years ago, the Marlins Team salary wasa combined 36 million. Alex Roderiguez makes 32 this year, and he is still good, but on the decline nonetheless. Sooner or later, some guy with 50 billion dollars is gonna buy all the good players.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/06/2011 - 9:31am #564349

aamir543
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Yeah baseball desperately needs a salary cap. A couple years ago, the Marlins Team salary wasa combined 36 million. Alex Roderiguez makes 32 this year, and he is still good, but on the decline nonetheless. Sooner or later, some guy with 50 billion dollars is gonna buy all the good players.
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