[AdamJCallejaParticipant]

Realistically I didn’t think he was going to have the season he had. Highlight reel dunk after highlight reel dunk showing that he has true superstar potential. As a Kansas fan that saw every KU game, he definitely exceeded my expectations for his rookie season. What about you guys?

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 I’d say he exceeded my expectations.  I was not expecting him to adjust so quickly to the NBA game.  I thought he would be solid at both ends of the floor last year but 16.9pts per game was more than I exected.  Off the top of my head I remember him playing out of the post at times which I didn’t know he had in his game.  Flip gave him responsibility on both ends which I think helped his development.  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 I’d say he exceeded my expectations.  I was not expecting him to adjust so quickly to the NBA game.  I thought he would be solid at both ends of the floor last year but 16.9pts per game was more than I exected.  Off the top of my head I remember him playing out of the post at times which I didn’t know he had in his game.  Flip gave him responsibility on both ends which I think helped his development.  

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 NSW I thought he would win ROY. Actually on a t-wolves team that wsd horrible I wouldn’t have been surprised if he averaged over 18pts a game. I know a lot of analyst stated this & I saw it at ku. The depth of his potential  depends on hard work obviously, but more specifically in wiggin’s case is will & motivation as he sometimes cruises throughout phases of games. 

[Stop_basketball_nonsenseParticipant]

 NSW I thought he would win ROY. Actually on a t-wolves team that wsd horrible I wouldn’t have been surprised if he averaged over 18pts a game. I know a lot of analyst stated this & I saw it at ku. The depth of his potential  depends on hard work obviously, but more specifically in wiggin’s case is will & motivation as he sometimes cruises throughout phases of games. 

[Rip255]

 I think Wiggins is going to be unstoppable. 

Tell me a defender who can stop a prime Andrew Wiggins from taking a quick step in either direction, and either pulling up (money), or taking it to the rim (dunk or fts). 

I t was quality when him and Rudy Gobert were going back and forth with blocks/dunks. 

 

 

[Rip255]

 I think Wiggins is going to be unstoppable. 

Tell me a defender who can stop a prime Andrew Wiggins from taking a quick step in either direction, and either pulling up (money), or taking it to the rim (dunk or fts). 

I t was quality when him and Rudy Gobert were going back and forth with blocks/dunks. 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Kelly Oubre will be able to defend him, and RHJ. 

Kelly Oubre can be just as good as Wiggins, at least as far as impacting winning. Oubre stretches the floor out to 26 feet, while Wiggins only takes one or two threes a game. Oubre’s pull up jumper is more deadly too, as is his floater.

Wiggins is clearly better off the dribble, but Oubre doesn’t need to be. His jump shot opens up driving lanes much more than Wiggins’ jumper does. 

If I was guarding Wiggins I’d sag off, and Oubre, being longer than Wiggins, can sag off and still get up to contest the jump shot. They’ll be compared a lot more than people realize over the years.

 

 

[T Rex]

 Kelly Oubre will be able to defend him, and RHJ. 

Kelly Oubre can be just as good as Wiggins, at least as far as impacting winning. Oubre stretches the floor out to 26 feet, while Wiggins only takes one or two threes a game. Oubre’s pull up jumper is more deadly too, as is his floater.

Wiggins is clearly better off the dribble, but Oubre doesn’t need to be. His jump shot opens up driving lanes much more than Wiggins’ jumper does. 

If I was guarding Wiggins I’d sag off, and Oubre, being longer than Wiggins, can sag off and still get up to contest the jump shot. They’ll be compared a lot more than people realize over the years.

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 If Oubre and RHJ could both guard Wiggins, then they would’ve been selected at least in the lottery. I’m in no way denying there athleticism. But, imo, Wiggins is way more the athlete that those 2 are. I think he’d run circles around them. Also, I don’t think Oubre will achieve as much as you think simply because of his work ethic, or lack of it. I’d love to see him become a KD like player that you seem to be predicting because I really liked him, but he won’t get there with his amount of ethic he’s got right now.

[T Rex]

 Paul George is my Oubre comparison. You’re sleeping on his defense big time. By the end of his college season he was elite defensively, same as Wiggins was at Kansas.

And if you anticipated anybody outside the lottery or top 10 to be a star, you’d get negged and dissed, so no wonder you don’t see it happening. 

Tony Allen was known to be a great defender in college whose defense projected to the NBA, but he still got drafted in the 20s like RHJ. If you don’t think great perimeter defenders regularly get drafted in the 20s, I guess you just need more experience as an observer of the NBA. Tony Allen has given Durant nightmares for years, he even admitted Tony was inside his head.

Even Norman Powell is an elite defender, and he went second round. It happens, especially with guards.

Surprised you don’t seem to know much about RHJ or his NBA defensive abilities.

And the only reason Oubre didn’t get drafted in the lottery is because clowns like the Lakers nepotism brats don’t know enough to value defense, nor does their head coach.

The crazy thing is, even though D’Angelo was drafted in part because of his marketing appeal, Oubre has infinitely more marketing appeal, in addition to being a much better player than D’Angelo. Oubre could have stepped into the Kobe face of the franchise role with ease.

Meanwhile, D’Angelo is sucking on the court, and alienating most Lakers fans with his tone deaf comments about Lakers fans being spoiled. Lol, marketing fail.

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Paul George is my Oubre comparison. You’re sleeping on his defense big time. By the end of his college season he was elite defensively, same as Wiggins was at Kansas.

And if you anticipated anybody outside the lottery or top 10 to be a star, you’d get negged and dissed, so no wonder you don’t see it happening. 

Tony Allen was known to be a great defender in college whose defense projected to the NBA, but he still got drafted in the 20s like RHJ. If you don’t think great perimeter defenders regularly get drafted in the 20s, I guess you just need more experience as an observer of the NBA. Tony Allen has given Durant nightmares for years, he even admitted Tony was inside his head.

Even Norman Powell is an elite defender, and he went second round. It happens, especially with guards.

Surprised you don’t seem to know much about RHJ or his NBA defensive abilities.

And the only reason Oubre didn’t get drafted in the lottery is because clowns like the Lakers nepotism brats don’t know enough to value defense, nor does their head coach.

The crazy thing is, even though D’Angelo was drafted in part because of his marketing appeal, Oubre has infinitely more marketing appeal, in addition to being a much better player than D’Angelo. Oubre could have stepped into the Kobe face of the franchise role with ease.

Meanwhile, D’Angelo is sucking on the court, and alienating most Lakers fans with his tone deaf comments about Lakers fans being spoiled. Lol, marketing fail.

 

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 If Oubre and RHJ could both guard Wiggins, then they would’ve been selected at least in the lottery. I’m in no way denying there athleticism. But, imo, Wiggins is way more the athlete that those 2 are. I think he’d run circles around them. Also, I don’t think Oubre will achieve as much as you think simply because of his work ethic, or lack of it. I’d love to see him become a KD like player that you seem to be predicting because I really liked him, but he won’t get there with his amount of ethic he’s got right now.

[tuck243Participant]

Meh…   He didn’t…   I expected him to do around the numbers he did while shooting the precentages he did.   I think it was more about opportunity with him than anything else.   Plus he was the only top rookie to log that many minutes.   I would just say he did what he had to do?  Because he simply didn’t have a "great" rookie season to me.   

[GBeeParticipant]

 Pretty much this.  He wasn’t a good player. He just played a lot on a bad team.

The only part of his game that exceeded my expectations was his foul drawing rate for not being much of a slasher.  He didn’t attack the basket like you’d expect someone with athleticism would do, but he’s got a bit of craftiness around that mid area getting defenders to bite on stuff.

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 Pretty much this.  He wasn’t a good player. He just played a lot on a bad team.

The only part of his game that exceeded my expectations was his foul drawing rate for not being much of a slasher.  He didn’t attack the basket like you’d expect someone with athleticism would do, but he’s got a bit of craftiness around that mid area getting defenders to bite on stuff.

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 Don’t get me wrong – Wiggins is a future All Star but he just Not a "Super Star" level talent…. He has incredible quickness & athleticism but I definitely agreed w/ All the scouts & talent evaluators who put Embiid in a class by himself then Wiggins & Parker a notch below him (obviously I’m talking about Before Embiid suffered that devestating injury which may end his career before it starts)… My point is that there was a Reason that Cleveland was 100% sold on Embiid over Wiggins…. 16.9 ppg for a Rookie is an Incredible number for a Rookie – to give people a reference Kobe averaged 7 ppg & did Not average what Wiggins scored until his THIRD year in the NBA… But unlike Kobe, I don;t see Wiggins as a Natural volume scorer… Does anyone think Wiggins will Ever avg 28 ppg??? I just don;t see it… Wiggins averaged 36.2 minutes per game on THE worst Franchise in the NBA, he Only shot a FG% of 43% which surprised me b/c of his ability to be other players off the dribble… I really thought he would be at a FG% of 50% regardless of the PPG… I was also surprised that he didn’t really give Minnesota much else: 4 reb, 2 ast, 1 steal, 0.5 blocks – those #’s just are Not that impressive… It seemed like ESPN showed One highlight dunk a night in meaningless games were the Wolves were getting Blown off the court…. the Wolves were 30 out of 30 NBA teams in Defense & gave up an Average of 106.5 points per game while scoring Only 97 PPG  in route to their NINTH (9th) consecutive losing season…. I just though the would give them more from the outside but the Unibrow could barely shoot his Rookie year as well…. I def put Wiggins WAY ahead of Mirotic for the R.O.Y. award but it was a Joke the Mirotic was even in the top 3. He was a 24 y/o grown man in his 4th year as a Pro & at 6’10” he scored 10 ppg which is fine but he Only avg 5 reb & shot an ABSURD FG% of 40% for a 6’10” man that is a Joke… I know I’ll get killed w/ negs for saying this but I would have put Noel ahead of Wiggins in a close race but look at Noel’s #’s – they are Almost identical to the Uni-brow’s rookie stats: 10 ppg, 8 rpg, 1.7 ast, 1.8 stl & 1.9 blocks – The Sixers were almost the worst team in the NBA in scoring (29th out of 30) but they were 20th in Defense surrending a respectable 101 ppg – that’s pretty amazing for a team w/ 4 D-Leaguers staring the other positions on the floor… Noel was Dominant defensively, he defends "pick & rolls" better than Anyone in the League, he is a Terror from the 3 point line in & he can defend all 5 positions… People say he can’t score but 10 ppg is actually very impressive for a 7 footer in his first year & After the Sixers rid themselves of MCW (for a Lottery pick) Noel’s Stats went thru the roof over the team’s final 25 games: 13.9 ppg, 10.5 reb, 2.1 ast, 2.3 stl, 2.5 Blocks & a FG% of 50%… those #’s have not been seen since Duncan & Olijuan’s rookie years – Extremely impressive… I think Both Wiggins & Noel are future Stars – not super stars – but Def Stars, they are both just WAY too talented to be anything less & I would have been fine w/ Wiggins besting Noel in a close R.O.Y. race but let’s all agree that Mirotic needs to be kicked to the curb in this debate… 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 Don’t get me wrong – Wiggins is a future All Star but he just Not a "Super Star" level talent…. He has incredible quickness & athleticism but I definitely agreed w/ All the scouts & talent evaluators who put Embiid in a class by himself then Wiggins & Parker a notch below him (obviously I’m talking about Before Embiid suffered that devestating injury which may end his career before it starts)… My point is that there was a Reason that Cleveland was 100% sold on Embiid over Wiggins…. 16.9 ppg for a Rookie is an Incredible number for a Rookie – to give people a reference Kobe averaged 7 ppg & did Not average what Wiggins scored until his THIRD year in the NBA… But unlike Kobe, I don;t see Wiggins as a Natural volume scorer… Does anyone think Wiggins will Ever avg 28 ppg??? I just don;t see it… Wiggins averaged 36.2 minutes per game on THE worst Franchise in the NBA, he Only shot a FG% of 43% which surprised me b/c of his ability to be other players off the dribble… I really thought he would be at a FG% of 50% regardless of the PPG… I was also surprised that he didn’t really give Minnesota much else: 4 reb, 2 ast, 1 steal, 0.5 blocks – those #’s just are Not that impressive… It seemed like ESPN showed One highlight dunk a night in meaningless games were the Wolves were getting Blown off the court…. the Wolves were 30 out of 30 NBA teams in Defense & gave up an Average of 106.5 points per game while scoring Only 97 PPG  in route to their NINTH (9th) consecutive losing season…. I just though the would give them more from the outside but the Unibrow could barely shoot his Rookie year as well…. I def put Wiggins WAY ahead of Mirotic for the R.O.Y. award but it was a Joke the Mirotic was even in the top 3. He was a 24 y/o grown man in his 4th year as a Pro & at 6’10” he scored 10 ppg which is fine but he Only avg 5 reb & shot an ABSURD FG% of 40% for a 6’10” man that is a Joke… I know I’ll get killed w/ negs for saying this but I would have put Noel ahead of Wiggins in a close race but look at Noel’s #’s – they are Almost identical to the Uni-brow’s rookie stats: 10 ppg, 8 rpg, 1.7 ast, 1.8 stl & 1.9 blocks – The Sixers were almost the worst team in the NBA in scoring (29th out of 30) but they were 20th in Defense surrending a respectable 101 ppg – that’s pretty amazing for a team w/ 4 D-Leaguers staring the other positions on the floor… Noel was Dominant defensively, he defends "pick & rolls" better than Anyone in the League, he is a Terror from the 3 point line in & he can defend all 5 positions… People say he can’t score but 10 ppg is actually very impressive for a 7 footer in his first year & After the Sixers rid themselves of MCW (for a Lottery pick) Noel’s Stats went thru the roof over the team’s final 25 games: 13.9 ppg, 10.5 reb, 2.1 ast, 2.3 stl, 2.5 Blocks & a FG% of 50%… those #’s have not been seen since Duncan & Olijuan’s rookie years – Extremely impressive… I think Both Wiggins & Noel are future Stars – not super stars – but Def Stars, they are both just WAY too talented to be anything less & I would have been fine w/ Wiggins besting Noel in a close R.O.Y. race but let’s all agree that Mirotic needs to be kicked to the curb in this debate… 

[tuck243Participant]

Meh…   He didn’t…   I expected him to do around the numbers he did while shooting the precentages he did.   I think it was more about opportunity with him than anything else.   Plus he was the only top rookie to log that many minutes.   I would just say he did what he had to do?  Because he simply didn’t have a "great" rookie season to me.   

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

I never expected Wiggins to have this advanced a post game as he has shown. I think Flip is doing a tremendous job developing him, starting his development with the inside game first. I’m not sure why people were furious with Flip’s statement saying he does not want Wiggins focusing on 3s. Wiggins is way more effective using that athletic body of his making moves in the rim than being Klay Thompson and jacking up 3s. Of course, when the opportunity comes, he will take the 3 but his game would be way more effective in the post and slashing.

Also, has anyone noticed how deceptively strong Wiggins is backing dow the post? He backs way down guys like Batum and Gay in the post and gets really deep in the basket because of it. Add a little more muscle and he’d be unstoppable down there.

 

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

I never expected Wiggins to have this advanced a post game as he has shown. I think Flip is doing a tremendous job developing him, starting his development with the inside game first. I’m not sure why people were furious with Flip’s statement saying he does not want Wiggins focusing on 3s. Wiggins is way more effective using that athletic body of his making moves in the rim than being Klay Thompson and jacking up 3s. Of course, when the opportunity comes, he will take the 3 but his game would be way more effective in the post and slashing.

Also, has anyone noticed how deceptively strong Wiggins is backing dow the post? He backs way down guys like Batum and Gay in the post and gets really deep in the basket because of it. Add a little more muscle and he’d be unstoppable down there.

 

[redsoxfreak724Participant]

 Exceed? No. Meet? Yes.

Stats wise, honestly quite on par with what I expected

He went for 16.9 PPG 4.6 RPG 2.1 APG 1.0 SPG

Same goes for his percentages

43.1% FG 31% 3PT and 76% FT

Highlight reel dunks? Check. A few monster blocks? Check. Flashes of his defensive potential? Check. Flashes of that ungodly spin move? Check.

Granted, I am shameless Wiggins fan, and think he has the potential to be the MVP of this league one day. I had high expectations, and he met each and every one. Exceeded? Probably not

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[redsoxfreak724Participant]

 Exceed? No. Meet? Yes.

Stats wise, honestly quite on par with what I expected

He went for 16.9 PPG 4.6 RPG 2.1 APG 1.0 SPG

Same goes for his percentages

43.1% FG 31% 3PT and 76% FT

Highlight reel dunks? Check. A few monster blocks? Check. Flashes of his defensive potential? Check. Flashes of that ungodly spin move? Check.

Granted, I am shameless Wiggins fan, and think he has the potential to be the MVP of this league one day. I had high expectations, and he met each and every one. Exceeded? Probably not

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 I’d say his rookie season was on par with what I expected. He put up pretty good stats on a horrible team and got better and better as the season went on. He showed vast improvement in some areas of the game (post scoring, perimeter defense) while also showing that other areas of his game (creating off the dribble, perimeter shooting) still need considerable work. I think he’s about on par with where I expected him to be right now, but he’s still just scratching the surface of his potential and I expect him to improve a lot more over the next few seasons.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 I’d say his rookie season was on par with what I expected. He put up pretty good stats on a horrible team and got better and better as the season went on. He showed vast improvement in some areas of the game (post scoring, perimeter defense) while also showing that other areas of his game (creating off the dribble, perimeter shooting) still need considerable work. I think he’s about on par with where I expected him to be right now, but he’s still just scratching the surface of his potential and I expect him to improve a lot more over the next few seasons.

[B-dizzle97Participant]

Andrew Wiggins was put in a perfect situation when he got traded to the timberwolves. He was instantly the number 1 option and he put up a respectable 16.8/4.6/2.1 stat line. His post game improved as the year went on, as did his one on one game and he became more agressive. As a Timberwolves fan, I am very excited to see him make a big 2nd year leap. 

[B-dizzle97Participant]

Andrew Wiggins was put in a perfect situation when he got traded to the timberwolves. He was instantly the number 1 option and he put up a respectable 16.8/4.6/2.1 stat line. His post game improved as the year went on, as did his one on one game and he became more agressive. As a Timberwolves fan, I am very excited to see him make a big 2nd year leap. 

[kobyzParticipant]

 He showed he has Vince Carter potential, very similar game to a young Vince…

[kobyzParticipant]

 He showed he has Vince Carter potential, very similar game to a young Vince…

[DolanCareParticipant]

 His post-up game is incredible. He can literally take any forward on the block and put a bunnyshot over them. It’s a simple little move but is just so damn effective. Scary to think that was his two year of basketball oustide of the HS level. 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 His post-up game is incredible. He can literally take any forward on the block and put a bunnyshot over them. It’s a simple little move but is just so damn effective. Scary to think that was his two year of basketball oustide of the HS level. 

[ZouldiersParticipant]

 I had to admit, I wasn’t as high on Wiggins as I was with Parker and I thought Parker is ROY but he did well enough to exceed my expectations. I see big things for him this season. Good luck to him and hopefully he keeps proving me wrong.

[ZouldiersParticipant]

 I had to admit, I wasn’t as high on Wiggins as I was with Parker and I thought Parker is ROY but he did well enough to exceed my expectations. I see big things for him this season. Good luck to him and hopefully he keeps proving me wrong.

[T Rex]

 Wiggins led the league in "minus".

 

 

[T Rex]

 Wiggins led the league in "minus".

 

 

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