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Derrick Williams vs Anthony Bennett

I am not super high on Anthony Bennett, he seems like bit of a tweener who might struggle a bit at the next level.

I was thinking about Derrick Williams. He had a great last season in college and was at the top or second in the mocks for the a good chunk of the season before declaring. He has been a little bit disappointing for a second overall pick.

Thoughts on Bennett ? Will he be better than Williams ?


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I like his upside and skill

I like his upside and skill set. He is somewhat of a tweener, but I think he'll settle in as a stretch 4. Hopefully he can develop a little bit of a post game. He also needs to toughen up a bit. Yes, he will be better than Derrick Williams.

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Anthony Bennett will be

Anthony Bennett will be better because of his confidence and his work ethic. There's absolutely nothing that is going to stop Bennet from being a success in the NBA and he knows that. He's trying to come in to this league to be great and you will see that in his eyes every time he steps on the court. I project his numbers in his rookie season to be just as good as Derrick Williams in his 3rd if not better

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The difference is Williams

The difference is Williams had one very good NCAA Tourney run, where as Anthony Bennett has been winning on the HS level, and international level all his life. Bennett is a kid that loves all things to do with the game including working hard because he truly loves the sport and understands the fact that he needs to learn more. As far as being a tweeter I believe that is all a mindset...Bennett uses his unique build to his advantage and knows how he gets his buckets.

So at the end of the day if Derrick had his experience, true desire to improve, love for the sport, and understanding where his points will come from Williams would probably be alot more productive.

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Bennett knows wants to play

Bennett knows wants to play PF and has the mentality of a 4, whereas Williams is a 3 at heart. Bennett definitely has the edge in terms of mentality coming into the league.

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Bennett's a complete

Bennett's a complete tweener...And tweeners sometimes have a tough transiiton to the NBA...that being said, hes super young and has the potential to be like anthony mason or larry johnson with better athleticism...hes a top 10 pick

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bennett face up game

is way better than Williams as a college player.As well as his ability to slash into crowds where a second move is required. I think Bennetts wants to play 3 and 4 . Willams that being said isnt the finished product and is still inding his way but has had some good stretches especially when Love was out.

My worries with Benmnet are tthe injuries ytheres alway some little thing

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Bennett face up games better

Bennett face up games better then derricks in college? No way. That's what Derrick did best. He was a 60% three point shooter and did most his damage facing up and beating slower bigs off the dribble.

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Actually Derrick Williams

Actually Derrick Williams really isn't a disappointment. This year he averaged 18 points and 8.2 rebounds per 36 minutes. (averaged 24 mins) He just needs some more time to develop and those are some really good stats for a 21 year old.

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Raw Per 36 numbers don't mean

Raw Per 36 numbers don't mean much. He also scored those 17.5 per 36 on bad efficiency.
His rebounding rate was not even league average for a PF, he contributed next to nothing in terms of peripheral stats and he graded out very poorly in every defensive metric that you could use.

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People act as if Derrick

People act as if Derrick Williams is some massive disappointment. I fail to see that. Minny only drafted him because he was the best player on the board in most peoples opinions at the time. But he was a terrible pick for them. He played the same position that their franchise centrepiece, and arguably the best player at his position played. Derrick was never placed in a situation in which he could have massive success, so people acting like he is some major disapointment &$#%#&@! me off. If he had fallen to Cleveland or Toronto he would be beasting. His per 36 minutes averages are great for a young guy, and certainly on par for a guy picked second in a less then stellar draft class, where most of the better players ended up being outside the lottery, Kawhi Leonard, Kenneth Faried, Jimmy Butler, Chandler Parsons. Williams has done just about all he can do in the situation he was placed in, and sure you can say that when Love went down that he could of stepped up more, well he is 21 years old experiencing heavy NBA minutes for the first time in his career, give the kid a break.

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I think people don't remember

I think people don't remember the praise Williams was receiving back then. Nbadraft gave him a 99 rating, after all. Today, it's as if Williams was supposed to be good, but nothing special. So saying now that Bennett, who as a prospect doesn't seem to be at the level Williams was (according to experts), will easily have the better career is a bit weird.

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I like how everyone always

I like how everyone always says that the new incoming prospect will easily be better than the guy drafted a year or two ago. Derrick Williams was drafted into a terrible situation. He plays the same position as Kevin Love! What type of numbers do you think he is going to put up? He's very young and has shown he can play. Can you imagine if he was able to play 30+mpg?

Look at Tobias Harris. The guy got no playing time and he gets traded, gets PT and blows up. Enes Kanter is in a logjam in Utah and hasn't put up crazy numbers. I bet he does when Jefferson and Millsap are gone. People confuse a bad situation with lack of production. How can you produce if you aren't on the floor? As you can see from Tobias, Kanter, and guys like John Henson they can play when they get a chance. So can Williams which he has shown.

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i really like bennet.what

i really like bennet.what separates him from dwill is that bennet is more aggressive going to the basket will dwill hangs around too much on the perimeter.i still think dwill can and will be a very good nba player as soon as he gets out of minny

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I think people expected

I think people expected Williams' outside shooting to carry over a bit better than it has, he went from 60% to whatever he's shooting now - but suffice to say he isn't wowing anyone. Also, he gets buckets is right, Williams hasn't been in a situation where he's been a go-to guy, and for whatever reason Adelman doesn't seem to like him.

I still think he can be a 3, he just needs to get himself in better shape and remain healthy, he seemed a lot more svelte in Arizona - it might have something to do with the cold in Minnesota, guys just seem to carry a bit of extra weight there.

Hopefully he gets dealt this off-season, to somewhere he'll be given a real opportunity as a 3 or 4, I think there is an increasing trend in the NBA to go small, with Melo and Lebron both logging plenty of minutes at the 4, Boston playing Garnett at the 5 and Green at the 4, Durant playing a bit of 4 with Ibaka at the C.

There aren't too many intimidating front-courts out there anymore, but Williams needs to get better at finishing at the rim. I think he can still live up to his draft position, just maybe not with the team that drafted him.

As far as Bennett is concerned, I don't see the big hype really, his production dropped off when he got to conference play, it's a bit like Terrence Jones - he was a projected top 5 pick early in his freshman season - then he came back down to Earth. I think he could be a more successful Carl Landry, but not another Larry Johnson like people seem to think.

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I think Bennett might end up

I think Bennett might end up struggling with his weight and having back and knee problems as a result of it. I know there isn't much there to support that theory right now but he's very top heavy and seems to have the potential to balloon up.

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I think Williams is a little

I think Williams is a little bit hurt by a lack of true role in the NBA. He has been tried at SF and he is absolutely a PF. Williams was a guy who got almost all his shots in college at the rim or beyond the arc. And he was very selective with the three pointers he shot. Bennett is a guy who is much more oriented to create his own shot, which is not necessarily better. When Williams was in college, he was really aggressive slashing to the rim, even without the ball, but now he tries to do too much from the perimeter in the NBA. Williams still has potential if he is put in the right situation.

Bennett has great ball handling ability, even better than the top wing prospects in this draft. His left-to-right crossover is among the best in this year's draft class and he has the physical strength to handle pressure. I really like Bennett as an offensive prospect, as he should be able to be a pick-and-pop threat who can create in the post. His offensive game is suited to either forward position. The problem is he just doesn't defend well. I doubt he will ever develop the ability to defend 3s, and he just lacks the awareness and effort to defend 4s, even though the physical tools are there.

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I don't think there's much

I don't think there's much difference b/t them at all., which is why I'm not that high on Bennett. They're both tweener, wannabe SFs who's physical exterior doesn't match how they play.

Bennett could get drafted into a better situation than Derrick though.

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Let's see what everyone says

Let's see what everyone says in 2 years if Bennett gets drafted by the Jazz or the Rockets with multiple players on the roster that play the same position. Everyone will dog him and say player X coming out is way better because Bennett is buried on the roster behind a couple of other players that play his exact position.

There are a lot of very talented players in the NBA that do not get a ton of playing time due to the roster they are on. That does not mean they cannot play. I hope Bennett gets an opportunity to get playing time and show what he's got. But if he is buried on a team like the Rockets everyone will be dogging him like they are with Derrick Williams.

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