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  • #39707
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    WarblingSpamalope
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     If you are the Timberwolves, do you try and trade him for a pick in this years draft? And if so, what is your threshold? My thought on the matter is if he works like Kevin Love in the offseason, maybe he could develop "3" skills. If he can’t he just isn’t worth it to the Wolves. My threshold on the draft pick is if you could get Jeremy Lamb out of the trade, go for it. Still, I’m not sure anyone is biting based on an up and down rookie year.

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  • #676285
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    laarethekings
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     Minny should get Ricky back…. Let him, Love and Williams grow together and fill out needs around them and in two years might be a top three team in the west.

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  • #676292
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    sheltwon3
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    I agree. I think with a full off season and Beasley gone Derrick Williams will take that next step.  Minny shold be able to get a quality shooting guard in this draft.

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  • #676293
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    GlenTaylorSucks
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    Much as I hate to say it, I think the best option would be to try and deal him (and other pieces) for a high quality SG or SF. As of right now, he’s a "bad" tweener for the team. Right now, he has a PF’s body, but he’s not long enough to guard them. He’s too big (weight) to effectively guard SF’s, and he isn’t big enough (length) to effectively guard PF’s. If he goes on the Kevin Love diet and drops like 20 lbs, I’m convinced he would be a very good SF. But if not, then they should look to trade him for an Iggy, OJ Mayo, I dunno who else is available at the wing spots.

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  • #676304
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    CodySLC
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    I think its a little to early to move him yet.

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  • #676309
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    apb540
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    Hypothetical but would you trade him for a pick to select Harrison Barnes if you are the T’Wolves GM? 

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  • #676313
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    omphalos
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     I think that Williams is actually a perfect match with the Wolves. He has a good shooting stroke, and his big body will help create second-chance opportunities when Love is shooting from the perimeter, and will also allow him to switch on screens against PFs without creating too obvious a mismatch.

    I do agree that he needs to continue to drop weight and develop his SF skills, but as had been said, with Beasley likely gone and Randolph showing he can be relatively productive at the PF spot, Williams should have more regular minutes and a chance to get out of Adelman’s "doghouse", which he seems to be in to an extent.

    As far as trading for Barnes, I don’t think it’s a great idea, Williams is every bit the range shooter that Barnes is, is a better rebounder and while he doesn’t have a great mid-range game like Barnes, he is a superior athlete and has visible chemistry with Rubio already. Plus, Williams is more effective in the post, which suits a team with a stretch PF like Love.

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  • #676316
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    Trade Danny Granger for D-Will. He can spend a year learning behind West then into the starting line-up. George, Williams and Hibbert would be an amazing frontcourt.

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  • #676342
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    TallmanNYC
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     Granger trade?!? The Wolves don’t want that contract. They will stick with their rookie salary capped guy. 

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  • #676353
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    benny15
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    i’d keep him unless its for a clear-cut star player that will propell the wolves from play-off bubble team to fighting for home-court advantage in the West. the guy still has so much talent and potential and showed flashes of it last year. he wasnt as consistent as you would want, but his minutes werent as consistent as he wanted as well. i’d like to see how he would be being a bigger part of the offense as well as year later, if he’s able to adjust on defending in the NBA level.

    next season will be very big for williams, it’ll show on how he could turn out, a multiple time all-star, a very good role player who can have an all-star appearance once, or an offensive scorer role-player such as corliss williamson was. and before that is verified, i would want him on my team unless i was given a really go reason to deal him.

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  • #676396
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    dmo21
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    I just thought of this and don’t really know what to think of it yet, but it sounds intriguing… 

    MIN trades D.Williams, W.Johnson, and #18 pick for Garcia and #5 pick.

    SAC trades Garcia and #5 pick for D.Williams, W.Johnson, and #18 pick.

    MIN would then draft either Beal or Lamb with that 5th pick to add a good shooting guard to their lineup. For SF, I see them looking at resigning Beasley(he is a RFA) or trying to sign Ilyasova (underated player who plays team ball, shoots the 3 and rebounds) or G.Wallace (if he opts out with the Nets, he can add defense, intagibles, and a veteran presence). Their lineup would then look like: Rubio(Ridnour), Beal/Lamb(Garcia), Beasley/Ilyasova/G.Wallace(Webster), Love(Randolph), Pekovic(Milicic). 

    SAC would probably go big with the 18th pick and draft either Moultrie or Nicholson. Their lineup would then look like: Evans(Thomas), Thornton(Salmons), W.Johnson(Outlaw), D.Williams(Moultrie/Nicholson), Cousins(Hayes).

    I think both teams benefit from this trade, what do you all think?

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  • #676422
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    GlenTaylorSucks
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    I don’t think Minny would do a deal with Sacto unless it involved Tyreke Evans

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  • #676468
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    benny15
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    i dont know, i think the twolves wouldnt mind a deal for Marcus Thornton if it just cost them Luke Ridnour or something. right now, i think minny’s core is Love, Rubio, Pekovic and Williams. they will most likely hold onto Barea as well since other teams wouldnt want to take his salary. and although very unpopular with their fans, they would likely keep wesley johnson as well as their defender role player because he wont likely get a high salary after his rookie contract barring a major improvement on the offensive end of the floor.

    and as i mentioned earlier, Williams’ sophomore season would indicate a lot on how he will be seen in the future of this team. weather he’s planted deeply in their core, or will be a major trade chip to land a better fit to the team.

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  • #676625
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    Not sure if they could swap draft picks with GS and throw in Beasley. Minny could take Beal or JLamb in the draft. GS would have a stack of potential SF at that 18th pick as a bit of insurance or motivation for Beasley to perform….Harkless, TJones, Royce White, Quincy Miller, Jeffery Taylor.

    Beasley in the right environment and right coach could still turn out to be a great player….

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  • #676645
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    benny15
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    but beasley is a restricted free agent, can he be dealt on draft night?

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