Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins

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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 5:37am #14537

kobyz
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i’m a Kings fan, if my team will draft third like it’s for now who should we take? i think it’s between Derrick Favors and DeMarcus Cousins, i think Cousins is the better player overall but the Kings should take Favors cause they a bad defensive team and they need someone who protect the paint and play good defense and that Favors!
what do you think the kings should do?
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 5:48am #278883

sheltwon3
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Cousins would be the better fit as he can play Center and is Physical and that is the reason Hawes is not really a good fit for the Kings. Putting Cousins and Thompson together with Laundry off the bench would be a good front court foundation. They can then trade Hawes and some dumb contract for a draft pick. That rookie from Israel and Donta Green can shore up the 3 spot. Benu, Tyreke, and Garcia should handle the guard spots. Everyone else to me can be moved for better pieces.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 5:48am #278953

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Cousins would be the better fit as he can play Center and is Physical and that is the reason Hawes is not really a good fit for the Kings. Putting Cousins and Thompson together with Laundry off the bench would be a good front court foundation. They can then trade Hawes and some dumb contract for a draft pick. That rookie from Israel and Donta Green can shore up the 3 spot. Benu, Tyreke, and Garcia should handle the guard spots. Everyone else to me can be moved for better pieces.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 5:56am #278885

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I’d wait till after workouts to decide. It also depends on what direction the team is going. If they want to be a more run n gun, athletic squad, then I’d go with Favors. If they want to be a half-court set team having Evans take guys 1 on 1 and then have a big man in the post to give it to, then I’d go with Cousins. This is gonna be a monumental pick for that organization. Personally, I would go with Favors at this point. I like DeMarcus, but after hearing about his character issues and the fact that the team is so young and really lacks a guy who is gonna command focus in the locker room (Evans will only be a Sophomore) I would play it safer and go with the great character and athletic player in Favors. Adding a guy who is gonna hustle, play solid D, and get put back (a Josh Smith prototype PF) will be a welcomed addition to any team.
But, they do need a C to take over for Hawes. He is not the answer there. I could see them going either way, but personally I prefer Favors. I think they are gonna need to blow up and trade some of that squad anyway, primarily guys like Hawes, one of the PFs in Landry, May, or Thompson, Udrih if they can get someone back, and/or a SF (Greene, Casspi, Nocioni or McGuire). They need some solid vets on that team. Preferably a solid vet. big man.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 5:56am #278955

M-DYMES
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I’d wait till after workouts to decide. It also depends on what direction the team is going. If they want to be a more run n gun, athletic squad, then I’d go with Favors. If they want to be a half-court set team having Evans take guys 1 on 1 and then have a big man in the post to give it to, then I’d go with Cousins. This is gonna be a monumental pick for that organization. Personally, I would go with Favors at this point. I like DeMarcus, but after hearing about his character issues and the fact that the team is so young and really lacks a guy who is gonna command focus in the locker room (Evans will only be a Sophomore) I would play it safer and go with the great character and athletic player in Favors. Adding a guy who is gonna hustle, play solid D, and get put back (a Josh Smith prototype PF) will be a welcomed addition to any team.
But, they do need a C to take over for Hawes. He is not the answer there. I could see them going either way, but personally I prefer Favors. I think they are gonna need to blow up and trade some of that squad anyway, primarily guys like Hawes, one of the PFs in Landry, May, or Thompson, Udrih if they can get someone back, and/or a SF (Greene, Casspi, Nocioni or McGuire). They need some solid vets on that team. Preferably a solid vet. big man.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 5:59am #278891

RUDEBOY_
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I agree with Cousins agent a little..When he says Cousins should be the number 1 pick..But i will not take him over Walls..But he does have the talent to be a very elite big man..He might become another Bob Lanier or another Benoit ”’Wake me up when the Game is Over” Benjamin..And as for Favors..Those comparisons to Stoudemire are unfair..He reminds me of Sidney Green who played with the Bulls in the early 80’s..
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 5:59am #278961

RUDEBOY_
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I agree with Cousins agent a little..When he says Cousins should be the number 1 pick..But i will not take him over Walls..But he does have the talent to be a very elite big man..He might become another Bob Lanier or another Benoit ”’Wake me up when the Game is Over” Benjamin..And as for Favors..Those comparisons to Stoudemire are unfair..He reminds me of Sidney Green who played with the Bulls in the early 80’s..
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:06am #278897

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IMO Favors would be a much better fit then Cousins. Favors and Tyreke Evans could be a scary pick and roll combination with their length and athleticism. Cousins def has a better post game, but might profile more as a center in the Kings system which already is loggjammed with young delveloping players in Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes. Evan Turner and Evans could be an interesting combination if he slipped down to the Kings. OR just to play devils advocate… what about offering the pick to Minnesota for Ricky Rubio.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:06am #278967

bam1988
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IMO Favors would be a much better fit then Cousins. Favors and Tyreke Evans could be a scary pick and roll combination with their length and athleticism. Cousins def has a better post game, but might profile more as a center in the Kings system which already is loggjammed with young delveloping players in Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes. Evan Turner and Evans could be an interesting combination if he slipped down to the Kings. OR just to play devils advocate… what about offering the pick to Minnesota for Ricky Rubio.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:08am #278898

Michael.S.
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Rudeboy, I noticed that you always call john wall john walls why?
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:08am #278969

Michael.S.
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Rudeboy, I noticed that you always call john wall john walls why?
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:19am #278904

NBAdraftRoom.com
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I think Cousins has more talent but will be a headache for whichever organization drafts him. Plus I think Favors has better athleticism and could have a higher upside if he develops his skill set.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:19am #278976

NBAdraftRoom.com
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I think Cousins has more talent but will be a headache for whichever organization drafts him. Plus I think Favors has better athleticism and could have a higher upside if he develops his skill set.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:46am #278914

RUDEBOY_
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lol..mikenike..sorry its a habit of calling John Wall / John Walls..My lawyer’s name is John Walls
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:46am #278986

RUDEBOY_
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lol..mikenike..sorry its a habit of calling John Wall / John Walls..My lawyer’s name is John Walls
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:52am #278920

Mr.Knick 32
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I like Derrick Favors. I believe if he had a legit PG at GT? He would be in contention for the 1st overall pick
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 6:52am #278992

Mr.Knick 32
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I like Derrick Favors. I believe if he had a legit PG at GT? He would be in contention for the 1st overall pick
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 7:16am #278934

knicksfan7
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I think Cousins is the way to go, how many guys of his size and skill set have we seen that are true centers?? Not too many. If Cousins can get mature up and realize how great he can be, he will be something else, and the team who drafts him will be very very happy.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 7:16am #279006

knicksfan7
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I think Cousins is the way to go, how many guys of his size and skill set have we seen that are true centers?? Not too many. If Cousins can get mature up and realize how great he can be, he will be something else, and the team who drafts him will be very very happy.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 7:22am #278936

knicksfan7
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Though with that being said, I would not be surprised if Cousins drops to the Pistons at #6 because of his bad attitude.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 7:22am #279008

knicksfan7
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Though with that being said, I would not be surprised if Cousins drops to the Pistons at #6 because of his bad attitude.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 7:28am #278940

kobyz
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i also would like to see the Kings get Avery Bradley, i think he could be great complement for Tyreke Evans, he is great defender overall and good shooter. he is a guy who doesn’t need the ball in his hand all the time and he can guard the PG position cause Tyreke can’t guard all point guards, if i the Kings i would try to trade for another first round pick, maybe to trade Carl Landry and Hawes for the Milwaukee pick and to take Avery Bradley. on second thought i would take DeMarcus Cousins with the third pick, he could be really dominate force and it’s hard to give up on that.
after that draft the Kings could be very scary for the future:
Tyreke Evans
Avery Bradley/Beno Udrih
Omri Caspi/Donte Green
Jason Thompson
DeMarcus Cousins
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 7:28am #279011

kobyz
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i also would like to see the Kings get Avery Bradley, i think he could be great complement for Tyreke Evans, he is great defender overall and good shooter. he is a guy who doesn’t need the ball in his hand all the time and he can guard the PG position cause Tyreke can’t guard all point guards, if i the Kings i would try to trade for another first round pick, maybe to trade Carl Landry and Hawes for the Milwaukee pick and to take Avery Bradley. on second thought i would take DeMarcus Cousins with the third pick, he could be really dominate force and it’s hard to give up on that.
after that draft the Kings could be very scary for the future:
Tyreke Evans
Avery Bradley/Beno Udrih
Omri Caspi/Donte Green
Jason Thompson
DeMarcus Cousins
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 8:23am #278962

lalaila
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IDK Landy tough pf Thompson versatility pf why take another one? Cousins is the answer i think. it’s could be close after who is better prospect with Favors upside age and that we couldn’t play in GT as good as he can but i still would say Cousins is 3 best available, so…
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 8:23am #279033

lalaila
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IDK Landy tough pf Thompson versatility pf why take another one? Cousins is the answer i think. it’s could be close after who is better prospect with Favors upside age and that we couldn’t play in GT as good as he can but i still would say Cousins is 3 best available, so…
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 8:42am #279053

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They need a center more than a PF. Hawes is too soft and not the elite scorer he needs to be to make up for it. They need a physical center to make up for their lack of toughness on the low block. Thompson and Landry is a nice PF tandem, and both can pick-and-pop. Cousins should be their pick over Favors. He’s better IMO, and he fills a void.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 8:42am #278981

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They need a center more than a PF. Hawes is too soft and not the elite scorer he needs to be to make up for it. They need a physical center to make up for their lack of toughness on the low block. Thompson and Landry is a nice PF tandem, and both can pick-and-pop. Cousins should be their pick over Favors. He’s better IMO, and he fills a void.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:01am #279057

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I think you guys are sleeping on Landry. The guy is averaging almost 18 and 7 since going to Sac. and immediatly got more minutes then Thompson and Hawes (and sometimes combined). They obviously love him as a long term piece to their team, so I see little reason for them to draft Favours. Thompson and Hawes have proven they can play either the 4 or 5, but the Kinds don’t really seem committed to either of them as starters. If they draft Cousins he can have him start the 5 and have either Hawes or Thompson come off the bench and and play with either guy. This would give them 3 guys playing all 96 minutes at the 4/5 ala Lakers with Bynum/Gasol/Odom…seems to work out pretty well for them…
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:01am #278985

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I think you guys are sleeping on Landry. The guy is averaging almost 18 and 7 since going to Sac. and immediatly got more minutes then Thompson and Hawes (and sometimes combined). They obviously love him as a long term piece to their team, so I see little reason for them to draft Favours. Thompson and Hawes have proven they can play either the 4 or 5, but the Kinds don’t really seem committed to either of them as starters. If they draft Cousins he can have him start the 5 and have either Hawes or Thompson come off the bench and and play with either guy. This would give them 3 guys playing all 96 minutes at the 4/5 ala Lakers with Bynum/Gasol/Odom…seems to work out pretty well for them…
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:19am #279068

kobyz
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Landry is good scorer but he is the biggest Ball hog and never pass, he also just average rebounder
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:19am #278997

kobyz
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Landry is good scorer but he is the biggest Ball hog and never pass, he also just average rebounder
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:25am #279070

darkisrising19
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How is Cousins a better fit? Kings already have three bigs who play no defense, why add a fourth? Favors adds the interior defense they need.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:25am #278999

darkisrising19
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How is Cousins a better fit? Kings already have three bigs who play no defense, why add a fourth? Favors adds the interior defense they need.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:31am #279078

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Thompson’s upside and length playing next to a physical guy like Cousins would be the reason Laundry who is used to being off the bench would be on the bench. Laundry would come in with the green like and give that bench energy. I am very intrigued with a line up of Beno, Evans, Greene, Thompson, Cousins. You are talking mad length and size at every position. Evans man be 6’5″ at the shooting guard but he is big with long arms and Beno is like 6’4″ at the point. Greene is like 6’10” Thompson is 6’11” and Cousins would be a big 6’11”. That is a scary line up and Cousins attitude does not appear to be as big of a problems as people are making. A lot of Gm’s want him to fall. He could wind up being a player equal to the top pick in a lot of other drafts yet he could fall to 7 and i am sure a lot teams would love to have him so with that being said if Sac can get him they will.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:31am #279007

sheltwon3
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Thompson’s upside and length playing next to a physical guy like Cousins would be the reason Laundry who is used to being off the bench would be on the bench. Laundry would come in with the green like and give that bench energy. I am very intrigued with a line up of Beno, Evans, Greene, Thompson, Cousins. You are talking mad length and size at every position. Evans man be 6’5″ at the shooting guard but he is big with long arms and Beno is like 6’4″ at the point. Greene is like 6’10” Thompson is 6’11” and Cousins would be a big 6’11”. That is a scary line up and Cousins attitude does not appear to be as big of a problems as people are making. A lot of Gm’s want him to fall. He could wind up being a player equal to the top pick in a lot of other drafts yet he could fall to 7 and i am sure a lot teams would love to have him so with that being said if Sac can get him they will.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:33am #279080

Anton123
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Landry is an underrated rebounder, I think he is better when he can be the first or second option on offense. So I see Sacramento making maximum use of him if he comes off the bench, absolutly every time Evans gets out of the game. If he can cope with the role of returning to the bench, they trade Hawes for some depth at pg or sg and draft Cousins then they’ll have a very deep and talented team. Maybe even have a playoff run next season
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:33am #279010

Anton123
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Landry is an underrated rebounder, I think he is better when he can be the first or second option on offense. So I see Sacramento making maximum use of him if he comes off the bench, absolutly every time Evans gets out of the game. If he can cope with the role of returning to the bench, they trade Hawes for some depth at pg or sg and draft Cousins then they’ll have a very deep and talented team. Maybe even have a playoff run next season
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:56am #279100

IndianaBasketball
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I think Cousins would be a great pick for the Kings. He’d give them toughness in the paint, which is what they need. Him and Landry in the paint would be a b*tch to deal with. Then you bring Thompson and Hawes off of the bench. That’s a very good and versatile big man rotation right there.
Add in a couple of more pieces and the Kings could make a jump similar to OKC in a couple of seasons.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/10/2010 - 9:56am #279030

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I think Cousins would be a great pick for the Kings. He’d give them toughness in the paint, which is what they need. Him and Landry in the paint would be a b*tch to deal with. Then you bring Thompson and Hawes off of the bench. That’s a very good and versatile big man rotation right there.
Add in a couple of more pieces and the Kings could make a jump similar to OKC in a couple of seasons.
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