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  • #34759
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    NCarmean18
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     With all the hype surrounding the battle of the L.A. teams, little attention was drawn by the Utah Jazz, and big man off the bench Derrick Favors.  Favors played a HUGE game tonight.  The biggest as a pro.  He played for a little over twenty-nine minutes, and all he did was merk.  The guy shot ten of fifteen from the floor, five of eight from the free throw line, and ended with twenty-five total points for the Jazz against the Portland Trail Blazers.  He also put up 12 rebounds for the struggling Jazz team, showing exactly why the Jazz should trade their experienced big men to contenders and go with the youth movement in a rebuilding process.  I can’t wait to see more from this young man.

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  • #616559
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    nateoak10
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     Kanter and Favors looked to good out there to just sit on the bench like they will behind Okur, Al and Millsap. They should be starting (at least 1 of them) . 

    Deal Jefferson for a draft pick/SF and Okur for a dump (he doesn’t really have value)

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    • #616563
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      esperanzafleet69
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      ^^^

       

      jefferson for tayshaun +2nd rounder any day

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      • #616569
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        nateoak10
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         Jefferson is counter productive to what they need but knowing Dumars I woudln’t doubt it. I think Jefferson for OJ Mayo or Jefferson for TWill and Budigner is a better fit . I dont even know if the salaries work though 

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  • #616560
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    For_Never_Ever
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    I was extremely impress with Favors and Kanster they have a very bright future. I wish I saw Burks he is a questiomark to me. This team has a great asset Jefferson. when the team is ready can be traded to bring a top notch player weather it is for a PG SG SF.

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  • #616561
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    WinterSoldier
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     I am very excited for the future of the Jazz I can see the potential in Favors and Kanter they can both be impact players. It’s definately time for a trade they need development time.

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  • #616572
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    Future_Scout

    i have to agree. at this point utah isn’t making any noise… they should make it a rebuilding project more than it already is. trade for young players

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  • #616582
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    lalaila
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     wow im so excited to see him in a real game, that was huge..i love Derrick’s potential but even i hasn’t predicted him to break out as fast as sophmore year..if it happens he could be a franchise player in making..but still it’s only one game he still made only one legit jumpshot (but offcourse to have 9fg made in the post is huge too) im happy for him but im not buying 100% on it, it shows he has improved but that doesn’t mean he will domina that fast..

     

    Overall looks like 201draft start to show their potential..Wall and DMC in my eyes always looked like a future stars, Monroe finished season strongly and now the new hypes around George and Derrick, can’t wait to see who will shine the most

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  • #616588
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    hubhub
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     With their situation they just have to make a trade. They have big guys with tons of potential Favors and Kanter and Jefferson, Okur and Millsap are just taking their time and slowing their development. They have to make a trade for some young guys or draft picks. Houston is looking for a big guy for the whole summer so maybe there’s an option to make some trade with them. Detroit also as mentioned has some young assets and Jefferson would be a nice fit there. The Bucks and the Sixers would also be happy to see Jefferson or even Okur or Millsap. If Utah wants to build a future contender they just have to trade for young assets. The trade value of these guys will not higher so they have to do that sooner than later. I’ve heard that Al is in great shape this year so maybe they can wait some time to let him improve his value

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  • #616590
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    For_Never_Ever
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     Jefferson is 20 and 10 guy I wouldnt give him up for any of those guy’s. Prince is really good but he is getting old. The team should just wait it out untill the draft or let things mature.

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  • #616593
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    Jefferson does not really fit into what Detroit needs ( a big defensive based player) to compliment Monroe and I feel that Utah could get better value eg Prince plus a first rounder. Okur is an expiring deal so I guess he can be traded on sooner rather than later unless they moved Jefferson and/or Millsap first. Perhaps ideally Jefferson who has the highest trade value is moved on and Okur can help mentor Favours and Kanter whilst they play around Millsap.

    I looked at the Utah bench last night and when you see Hayward, Burks, Favours and Kanter which is a great young core going forward.

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  • #616594
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    Jefferson does not really fit into what Detroit needs ( a big defensive based player) to compliment Monroe and I feel that Utah could get better value eg Prince plus a first rounder. Okur is an expiring deal so I guess he can be traded on sooner rather than later unless they moved Jefferson and/or Millsap first. Perhaps ideally Jefferson who has the highest trade value is moved on and Okur can help mentor Favours and Kanter whilst they play around Millsap.

    I looked at the Utah bench last night and when you see Hayward, Burks, Favours and Kanter which is a great young core going forward.

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  • #616601
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    ronniemiller1k
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    as a nets fan i hated seeing favors go, but i know the Prok wants big names to fill seats in the new arena next year. id love to take milsap, with or without dwight. nets pf situation is depressing. i just hope they get dwight otherwise everything will be for null

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  • #616667
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    chevilicous
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    The young guys where a complete bright spot for this young squad last night, although Kanter didn’t shoot well at all, he showed that his rebounding ability is off the charts, the dude grabbed 10 boards and rebounded out of his general area like a monster. If his offensive game never develops into a 20 ppg scorer (which is highly unlikely), I think at the very least you can expect a high motor kid who could be in the top 3 RPG in the league given 35 minutes a night.

    Favors showed a little bit of a jumper last night, and hit one at about 15 feet, as well as a few go to moves in the post that looked promising. However allot of his points came in a dwight howard fashion, where he was just far to big strong and athletic for anybody from portland to keep him off the glass, or out of the paint. The kid looks like he put on 15 more pounds of muscle, and is just looking like an absolute beast. If that jumpshot gets consistent it’s over.
     

    Hayward and Burks, although pretty inconsistent themselves still showed the ability to get to the rack pretty much at will, and have blown everyone away on the coaching staff with their passing ability out of the 2 and 3 positions. Burks got schooled a couple times by Thomas on a couple whiley veteran moves throughout the game, but as these 2 grow and buy into the offense they should improve considerably.

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  • #616675
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    JoeWolf1

     I didn’t catch the game, but I expect him to have a much improved Sophomore season.  I was very uncertain about him early in his freshman year, but by the way he was playing in the NCAA tournament I was sold he could be a very good player.  I’m looking forward to see the improvement he’s made in the off season.

    He was averaging around 8 rebounds per game early last season for NJ before Humphries started to take his minutes. If he gets the PT, I could see him pulling down 8-10 rpg.  You’d think Utah will move Okur or Millsap at somepoint this season.  Sloan is gone, they have great young talent, and keeping those old guys around doesn’t benefit them as much as letting Kanter and Favors get minutes. IMO.

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    • #616688
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      Houston would be a good team to look to trade Jefferson to given the number of young assets and future picks that they hold. Also the old Iggy for Jefferson trade idea could be looked at again as their salaries virtually match and it is a mutually good move for both teams and maybe Iggy in particular might benefit from a change in scenery after several years with Philly.

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  • #616724
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    lalaila
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    agree with absolutelly everything chevilicous said..and i think Derrick will get his jumper soon, don’t forget the guy was the youngest player in the league last year as has great work ethic plus his touch is really nice for a guy his size 

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  • #616732
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    butidonthavemoney

    He impressed me as well, but he did most of his damage against a very weak Portland frontline. Favors was being checked by 210 lbs Chris Johnson for the majority of the game, and it’s easy to dominate in a preseason game when you have a 40 lbs advantage on your defender. While he did take a number of 15-20 foot jumpshots, he only made one so that’s nothing to really be excited about.

    While 25 and 12 is a great stat-line, Favors really didn’t defend very well. He had no blocks, missed a few rotations and didn’t hold his position in the post against Craig Smith toward the end of the game. He did only have one foul though, so I guess that’s the trade off. He can play great defense and foul like he did last season, or be mediocre here and stay in the game.

    It’s clear Favors has added some strength and confidence over the summer, but I’ve seen no reason to rush his development yet. Let him continue to come off the bench with the rest of the young players for a while.

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  • #616741
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    aamir543
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    Although I agree with Butidonthavemoney that he does have a ways to go, I believe that the best way to develop a prospect is to let him watch for a little, but to quickly let him see the floor 30+ minutes a game, and have them be the focal point of the offense, which is what I believe the Cavs will do with Kyrie and Thompson this season.

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    • #616757
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      butidonthavemoney

      Aye, but the last thing you want is to hurt his confidence by throwing him into the fire too early. Different players react differently to pressure, especially when they are young. I want him to get as much playing time as possible, but I also want to keep him away from too much responsibility until he proves he’s 100% ready for it. Let him come off the bench for at least half a season more, and reassess the situation again before the trade deadline. Playing with Kanter in the second unit will also build chemistry between the two, which is another bonus as far as I’m concerned.

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  • #616765
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    TheLastWord
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    Favors received a lot of flak for not putting up huge stats last year. One esteemed member on this board even called him Stromile Swift. Its obvious Favors is going to be a monster soon. If he gets the ball in the lane, he will be dunking over anyone except for a few select centers.

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