Derek Rose Overrated?????
Obvisouly he is a great player and will be one for years to come, but he had a big lead late and he let it slip away. A point guard has to manage his team aswell as the clock and with a 14 point lead with 3 minutes left a loss is unacceptable. He missed a key free throw and fouled a 3pt shooter is it really a stretch to blame this loss on him??
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To be fair, Rose did play terribly down the stretch in all the Chicago losses. He lost that swagger somewhere along the way and seemed afraid of the big moment. Hopefully he learns from this and comes back mentally tougher. Both he and Durant crumbled in pressure situations, but another year of seasoning should do them good.
Seriously??? He's 22. Give him time.
He did play awful. The pressure of having to do everything got to him and he absolutely crumbled. Get him a scorer who can create...and watch out.
is that OMAR COOK in your picture...LOL...I used to like that dude...and ERICK BARKLEY...what happened to them???
You can't blame the loss on Rose. Night in and night out, Rose is the sole reason the Bulls are even on a competitive level in the NBA. You take Rose off that team, they struggle mightily.
I don't think Rose is that overrated if he is at all. He is a phenomenal player who is still very, very young. I think the Bulls as a team were overrated though. Boozer is going to be able to be the #2 guy in Chitown. Thus far, that contract is looking like a monumentally bad investment. Rose, Noah, Deng, Gibson, and potentially Asik are the players that I would use as the core. The rest are all players who I think could be upgraded or should be moved. So basically, I think their bigs are solid, but Rose desperately needs help on the wings with exception to Deng.
Far from overrated, you guys did this to Lebron, your not doing this to him. Threads like these are trash. He's in the same predicament as these other superstars. Give him credit where credit is do.
He, as well as Kevin Durant, need to learn when to take over a game. When they are losing the lead, they need to make sure the ball is in their hands and be aggressive. They both found themselves settling for bad/ contested jumpshots because of this problem.They don't need to pass the ball out unless the shooter is wide open, not going into a one-on-one match with their defender themselves, unless it is a CLEAR mismatch. It is just something that has to be learned w/ experience.
OP- He isnt overrated. He just wasnt ready for moment. The fact hes a one man team didnt help either.
Random Question- Is your name inspired by the wire lol?
I said he was a great player and still has upside which is unbelievable but with a 14 point lead and 3 minutes left its safe to say they should have won that game.
I think it might be a slight overreaction to blow up the Bulls roster, they have arguably the best bench in the NBA, and are one more high calibre perimeter scorer away from legitimately challenging Miami with continued maturation from Rose. Those were all winnable games, but the pressure got to them, the team doesn't need a major overhaul.
I should add that this doesn't say anything about Rose not deserving the regular season MVP, he was a completely different player in the regular season, he just ran out of gas/will in the playoffs, the MVP was still deserved in my opinion.
nope, i got the name OMARtheLEGEND which is refering to Omar Cook the dude in my Display Picture. He had a cup of coffea in the nba he is europe now.
About anyone other than Omar Cook?
If you cannot even spell the guys name correctly (it is Derrick Rose), than odds are, you should not be writing about them.
I never said to blow up the roster. But I said going forward I think Rose, Deng, Noah, Asik, Gibson are the guys you want to keep around the most. If there is anyway to move Boozer, I would try my hardest to get rid of him and free up that cap space. He is an injury risk, his D has really fallen off, and he just doesn't look like the same player he was even 1 or 2 years ago.
Yea, screw Omar Cook, Omar Little would have been a way better reference. The coolest homosexual of alltime, bar none.
And omphalos- let me ask you this. Im not saying neccessarily blow up the roster, but dont you think this team has Cav syndrome where its depth helps it flourish in the regular season but they dont have enough threats for a best of 7? And that was with 6 9 Lebron as opposed to 6 3 Rose.
Im gonna say it, as a Bulls fan. Trade Noah and Boozer. Together. Noah has alot of value and he would be the best chip in helping you get rid of Boozer's lousy contract. The fact that with your backs against the wall, these guys couldnt play crunch time because Taj Gibson can defend the interior and Kurt Thomas can knock down an 18 footer show they have been overvalued.
Rose is only 22 years old and this is the first time he has ever gotten out of the first round. He literally has to carry the teams offense which makes it incredibly easy for a defensive team like the Heat to lock him down.
People just love to hate on him.
Same **** happened to Lebron when he was swept by the Spurs in the Fianls
"People just love to hate on him"
I have a hard time believing that. IMO he seems like one of the more liked/likeable guys in the league. I don't know many people who hate on him. In fact the love affair everyone seems to have with him sickens me at times.
They might have to trade some of their bench certainly, but no sense giving up on Boozer yet, give them time to grow together, keep in mind Noah and Boozer missed a whole bunch of games.
I do agree that it could be Cavs syndrome, but it all depends on this off-season where you have a couple of guys they can try and recruit who would solve their problems at SG; J.R. Smith, Arron Afflalo, Wilson Chandler. As you can see, Denver is stacked at that position and at least one of those guys could be had. Failing that, Tracy McGrady, who stayed more or less healthy this year and was productive when required, would be a good fit as a veteran creator. If they pick up McGrady then they should invest in a 2-guard with scoring abilities and bring him off the bench behind T-Mac until he's ready to start. Marshon Brooks or Scotty Hopson (or both) would be ideal targets with their late first round picks in my opinion.
Bulls are in a better position than Cleveland was because Rose is far less likely to leave Chicago, given that it's a free agent destination and big-name players are more likely to come to him than they were to Lebron. Also, they've shown the capacity to draft well with Asik and Gibson and Derrick Rose has far from maxed out, whereas Lebron was at the peak of his abilities and they were still getting nowhere.
This is true, and Im absolutely sure the Bulls can slightly remodel the team and still be a legit contender. However, getting through Miami is the tough part. I dont see JR Smith or Wilson Chandler swinging a series like that. They need a legitimate 2nd option.
sorry, but i hate questions like these. im not giving you a minus though! but seriously rose is not overrated! c'mon man, he like durant and westbrook took there squads to the east/west conference finals. they just ran into the better team. hes not overrated. the guy is the bulls everything, overrated, i think not!!!!
They don't need a legit second option, they have that in Boozer/Deng in my opinion, but they need that other guard who can create his own shot down the stretch and try and stop them doubling Rose every time he touches the ball. Chandler or Smith could fill that function; it doesn't need to be a star player, just a scoring player. Someone mentioned that Jamal Crawford is available this off-season, he would be a great addition to the Bulls, do you think he could get them over the hump?
Over the hump? No. I think the problem with all 3 of those guys, is theres nites where they will be absolutely horrible. The Bulls need some continuity in there scoring.
Easier said than done finding continuity in scoring. I agree that Crawford won't get them over the hump, mostly because it's hard to see any team beating Miami in a seven game series over the next few years unless it's possibly the Knicks (provided they can find a third star).
The Bulls played great team ball the 1st 3 quarters and all the way up until the last 3 minutes of the 4th..While the Heat didnt have any chemistry the entire night and did everything 1 on 1....The Bulls only offensive weapon Derrick Rose logged 42 minutes while trying to run the team,play defense and trying to get his own points...And he looked tired....
The Heat have 2 of the 3 best players in the world on their team,clicking at the right moment and playing against a Bulls team that had ran of of steam...
But nobody expected the Bulls to win 60 games..Nobody expected the Bulls to be in the Eastern Conference Finals..Nobody expected Tom Thibodeau to win Coach of the Year in his 1st season as a head coach and Nobody expected Derrick Rose to win MVP.
Seeing how well young teams like Oklahoma City, Memphis and Chicago played during the playoffs this year will make fans eager to see how much they've learned and how far they'll go next season.....
Spell the name right... I don't know who Derek Rose is... but I do know who Derrick Rose is...
Rose is not overrated he carried Chicago to the level they were at this year. I dont expect him to have a good series when he is being guarded by Lebron james and Wade. In some famous words come on Man.
Rose is a beast. He's a diff player but resembles a healthy Iverson in that no defender can stay in front of him.
He had some poor performances in the 4th quarter but it's not the end of the world. It's a 82 game season + playoffs and he was playing in the Eastern Conference finals so some mediocre performances are inevitable. Durant was also disappointing in the Dallas series but a few games don't reflect his overall abilities.
Chicago without Rose would've lost in the first or second round of the playoffs. They barely even beat Atlanta this year. Review his stats...
The funny thing about this site is that people tend to over react every time a team loses or wins, every time a player has a good game or a bad game. A team loses a game and someone decides the team needs to get busted. A player has an bad game and you ask if he is over rated or needs to be trade. A guy has a great game and he's a future hall of famer. Rose is in good shape, he's level headed and if anything this loss is going to push him to improve more. I think this is the start of a new, hopefully awesome rivalry.
To be honest the Bulls and Derrick Rose had a fantastic season. I know you never want to be satisfied without winning it all, but I would assume most people would agree the team and Rose are ahead of schedule. Rose was never the best player in the league, but combined with what he was doing, with what he had to work with, the record his team achieved and his age, you have to be impressed. He has plenty to work on, mostly things to do with basketball IQ, but this team is only going to get better going forward. Consider that Rose has a ton of room to grow, the team will have another year with their coach who gets another year of head coaching experience, and the team as a whole gets another year together which most of you seem to forget it's a completely different one from last year.
Derek Rose is one of my best friends. I don't think he is overrated at all.
But if you want to talk about Derrick Rose, well maybe that is a different story. Is he overrated? If you thought he was the best player in the NBA, then yes, you overrated him. Rose's best skill is the ability to create one-on-one and go score. And he is one of the best in the league at it. But, it turns out that Lebron is just so good at defense that he can contain Rose when the game is on the line. So Lebron negates Rose's best skill forcing him into tough jump shots on a lot of possessions. Then Lebron showed that he could finish (and that is in addition to rebounding and passing and shot blocking and steals, etc. etc.)
So Rose is great, but best player in the game? No he isn't, Lebron is still that guy.
You have to realize how hard it is to win at this level. Rose is facing the same thing Lebron would have been had he stayed in Cleveland. Its hard enough to come out of the East Had Lebron been in Cleveland this year, the Bulls probably couldve made it to the finals. Just like Lebron was knocked, same with Rose now and its unfair. Just because a team has one great player or league MVP doesnt automatically guarantee them a championship. Although I didnt like Lebron's decision (I thought he shouldve went to the Clippers or the Bulls), the fact is he wanted to win. Rose may be facing that same tough decision soon....IF he wants the best chance to win a title.