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- Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 9:54am #4528
knicksfreakParticipantI have seen people undervalue David Lee on alot of forums. Why is David Lee dissed so much. He isnt a “product of a system”. How can he be. He put up numbers before D’Antoni. His numbers do lead to wins. Without his boards and second chance baskets, we wouldnt have won half the games we did. He is all hustle and has recently developed a solid 18 footer. He consistently plays bigger opponents and pulls down double-doubles almost every night. There isnt one team in the NBA that he wouldnt make better.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 10:31am #157657
butidonthavemoneyDavid Lee is a good player. How much do you think he is worth in terms of a contract? I just think that most teams don’t want to pay much more than the MLE for a hustle/rebounding role-player, you know?
Some team will pick him up and be happy with him if New York gets rid of him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 10:33am #157656
mb6297Yea David Lee is one of the most undervalued guys in the NBA. Although I am not a huge Knicks fan, I’m from Long Island so I obviously see a lot of the games on MSG.
I remember Lee from way back.. when he was a McDonald’s all-American.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78J091slHmQ
(video is not very good quality because its from 2001)
He had a solid career at Florida. He was always athletic but developed his body.
Lastly, he is getting only $1.7 million for averaging 16 pts and 12 rbs.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 10:35am #157663
knicksfreakParticipantHe will probably cash out at 10 mil a year.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 10:43am #157671
D HampParticipant10 mil sounds about right. He works hard and bring a good attitude and intensity. He’s a boarder line all-star. He’s way undervalued. May the most undervalued in the NBA.
DHamp…Hubie Brown.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 11:05am #157686
NYKnicksuperFanParticipantHe was like third or fourth in doubl-doubles up their with the Howards and Duncans but still no team should ever make him or pay him like their no.1 option
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 11:55am #157721
NYK423Participantim a knick fan and no way is he worth 10 mil a year. he is worth at most 7-8 mil. He is absolutly a great glue guy. He does all the little things and then some, but he cant be ur first or second option. No one is going to break the bank for him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 12:06pm #157729
mb6297He is worth whatever his next contract will be. The market dictates prices.
Don’t forget about salary surprises in the NBA. (Wally Szczerbiak made $13 million this season… last year of contract).
Here’s another good list:
http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/2008/07/the-5-most-overpaid-players-in-the-nba-next-season/
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 12:07pm #157731
knicksfreakParticipantHe is in demand and will let other teams drive the price up on him for the knicks. 8-10 mil. only because the economy sucks.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 12:16pm #157732
PringlesParticipantI’m as big a fan of Lee as anyone, but he has some serious limitations. I’d say he hits the offensive glass as well as anyone and his hands and passing ability are elite for his position, but he doesn’t defend at all and he’s a reluctant scorer. I do think he fits some other teams better than the Knicks actually (because he can’t shoot well enough for a D’Antoni PF), but I’d keep him in NY for the MLE.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 12:45pm #157743
knicksfreakParticipantLee will get at least 8 mil/year. His offense has improved vastly. He has been forced to defend much bigger centers. I’m not saying he’s an all-star but Portland, OKC, and San Antonio love him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 12:51pm #157744
johnecoParticipantto NYKnicksuperFan:
Lee was not 3rd or 4th in double doubles, he was first in the whole NBA this year (regular season) with 65.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 4:41pm #157807
NYK2010ParticipantThey mean nothing if you average 10 pts a game guys off the bench can average that. 10 rebs are obviously a lot better but the difference between 9 & 10 rebs means what. It would mean more for point guards because assists are so much more important. If Knicks were smart would’ve locked Lee up when they had the chance could’ve had him cheap and used him as trade bait too.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 5:04pm #157818
NYKnicksuperFanParticipantfirst off love the name second if doubl-doubles were so easy then why doesnt Howard or KG or Yao lead the category, Lees double-doubles shows not only great skill but outstandng hustle as well
Johneco thanks for cleaing things up
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 5:08pm #157820
QHaynes123As a NYK fan, I completely agree. This man is a monster who could play in the NBA for another 10-12 seasons. He rebounds like crazy and has a excellent skill set for his age. I think the Knicks would be crazy to let this man go…he is a top 10 rebounder in this league.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 5:57pm #157849
bdoody42ParticipantLee borderline all star?
Where in NBDL?
He is good role player and can get you a double double, that said doesn’t make him a borderline all star.
He can be a teams 3rd option, but that in most cases doesn’t make you an allstar.
That be said I think he deserves 8 million a year.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 6:07pm #157853
knicksfreakParticipantI dont think it is impossible to make an all-star game but you’re right. He is a good role player. Definitely not the best player on a championship team.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/06/2009 - 7:26pm #157890
butidonthavemoneyI would give David Lee around 6-8 million. About the same as Paul Millsap.
0- Posted on: Sun, 06/07/2009 - 4:50am #157924
jcjParticipantLee’s current value is only low because he is in his rookie contract. He will definitely be looking at a big pay raise with his next deal. While he is definitely never going to be a go to guy for a championship team, he could be a good 3rd or 4th guy on such a team, similar to Horace Grant was with the Bulls. The Bulls had Jordan as their best player, Pippen as the 2nd best, and Grant as 3rd best (over Bill Cartwright or BJ Armstrong). In their second run, they had Dennis Rodman as their 3rd best player. Of course not all teams would have a 1-2 punch as good as Jordan-Pippen, so a less talented team may have Lee as a 4th best player.
As for his contract it would depend on who offers. If he wants his money, he can get 10M on a bad team, but if he wants a title, he might have to give up some bucks and settle for 6-8 million to allow the team to get the requisite stars for him to support.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/07/2009 - 6:30am #157951
Flash_Scout_5ParticipantDavid Lee this year made his name be Known for this year FA he is a verry under rated power foward be cause his lack of size. He can offer a lot to a team who is looking at him in FA. He can be a solid 15.0 and 10. guy
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/07/2009 - 3:30pm #158176
tkd720manParticipantDavid Lee is under-rated, for sure, but he’s not worth 10m.
That doesn’t mean he won’t GET 10m, though. Emeka Okafor is getting 9.5M, so it’s not impossible for David Lee to do the same. I mean, Eric Dampier gets 11.5.
You could say he doesn’t deserve more than 6-8M, but then he’d just point at these guys.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/07/2009 - 3:31pm #157926
PringlesParticipantLee only averages that many rebounds because there is NO ONE else on the Knicks who’s even interested in rebounding. Curry would gladly let Lee take all the rebounds because he’s a slob. Now Lee was playing center with Harrington who just wants to score.
Lee will not duplicate those numbers playing alongside a true center because they’ll want to get some rebounds too! That said, he’s a very good offensive rebounder but he needs to improve his defense.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/07/2009 - 3:57pm #158198
knicksfreakParticipantPerfectly said. Although he should be paid in the 6-8 million range, it only takes one GM to drive his price up to 10. I’d rather give him 10 mil than Eddy Curry though. haha
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2009 - 3:08am #158427
rtbtParticipantDavid Lee is a terrific leaper, a fantastic rebounder, an excellent teammate, and virtually an automatic “double double”every night.
However, the subject matter has nothing to do with the NBA DRAFT. It belongs in the NBA or NY Knicks Forum.
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