[XavierAllTheWayParticipant]

i posted a few months ago that ainge is good at accumulating assets only.  He is not good at drafting players.  So disappointed in this draft mainly bc they did not pull off trade with philly.  Supposedly philly was willing to either trade okafor for #3 or Noel, #24, 26 for #3. 

Now to his draft choices.

brown…not a fan of him at #3.  Very athletic but can’t shoot, dribble well enough.  Proned to turnovers and lack basketball IQ. 

Guerschone…he would have been there second round.  He pulled a similar move with terry rozier last year.  As a prospect, he is basically an undersized wide body that plays below the rim, ala sullinger.

 

zizic….okay prospect…he went about where he should.

i wished he kept Davis at 31, draft stone at 35, aj hammonds  at 45, bentl at 48 and cat barber at 58 instead of Nader (basically a throw away pick).  That would have given them some much needed size up front

[tommsalmondParticipant]

 I think once Ainge realised he wasn’t getting a superstar this draft was always going to be a struggle. I can’t say much about the Brown pick, everyone after Ingram and Simmons was going to be an awkward fit, as what we really need (bigs) weren’t safe or ready to play. Brown plays tough, he’s intelligent and I feel like he might be used as a small 4.

I loved the Guerschone pick. This guy is 260 pound of pure muscle, with nimble feet and a 42% three point stroke. And he believes his defence is his best asset. I think this guy is gonna be great and I’m glad we got him.The Sully comparison is a bit off, Sully has never been that well conditioned in his life and he isn’t exactly that much more skilled.

Everyone else isn’t much of a factor. I hope we let Sully go and take a run at Horford. Get him and we can look at trades that make us better later on when teams aren’t trying to take advantage. The most likely result is missing out on anyone game changing and keeping Amir for a year. Which I’m okay with, but I do worry that we will end up having our cheap contracts (Bradley, Thomas, Crowder) run out before we can really compete.

 

 

[tommsalmondParticipant]

 I think once Ainge realised he wasn’t getting a superstar this draft was always going to be a struggle. I can’t say much about the Brown pick, everyone after Ingram and Simmons was going to be an awkward fit, as what we really need (bigs) weren’t safe or ready to play. Brown plays tough, he’s intelligent and I feel like he might be used as a small 4.

I loved the Guerschone pick. This guy is 260 pound of pure muscle, with nimble feet and a 42% three point stroke. And he believes his defence is his best asset. I think this guy is gonna be great and I’m glad we got him.The Sully comparison is a bit off, Sully has never been that well conditioned in his life and he isn’t exactly that much more skilled.

Everyone else isn’t much of a factor. I hope we let Sully go and take a run at Horford. Get him and we can look at trades that make us better later on when teams aren’t trying to take advantage. The most likely result is missing out on anyone game changing and keeping Amir for a year. Which I’m okay with, but I do worry that we will end up having our cheap contracts (Bradley, Thomas, Crowder) run out before we can really compete.

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 You might want to check out more of Yabusele because he can play above the rim with his long arms and has potential as shooting from 3.  He’s very nimble and athletic for a guy his size.  I think he was a reach at 16 but with the way the draft was going last night I’m not sure he makes it to 31.  

As for who you would have wanted in the 2nd round Boston only has so many roster spots.  I believe we have 9 guaranteed contracts and that doesn’t include the non-guaranteed contracts of Jerebko and Amir Johnson.  

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 You might want to check out more of Yabusele because he can play above the rim with his long arms and has potential as shooting from 3.  He’s very nimble and athletic for a guy his size.  I think he was a reach at 16 but with the way the draft was going last night I’m not sure he makes it to 31.  

As for who you would have wanted in the 2nd round Boston only has so many roster spots.  I believe we have 9 guaranteed contracts and that doesn’t include the non-guaranteed contracts of Jerebko and Amir Johnson.  

 

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 People crying are b!+chest so you are that. Great pic and the kid can get to the rack on p n r. No one else can on that team besides IT. Shut up. Brown will get to the line and shot 38 from 3 before 1 year at Cal. Who cares it was college. This kid can easily be best player in this draft. He is not now but he could be. You don’t make dumb deals to appeal to Bobby burger King who knows d!c% about scouting players or building teams. Warriors drafted Green through trade that night,Curry,Thompson,Barnes, hey built through draft. Buddy shut up and sit down. Awesome pic. Crowder can be dealt now. 

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 People crying are b!+chest so you are that. Great pic and the kid can get to the rack on p n r. No one else can on that team besides IT. Shut up. Brown will get to the line and shot 38 from 3 before 1 year at Cal. Who cares it was college. This kid can easily be best player in this draft. He is not now but he could be. You don’t make dumb deals to appeal to Bobby burger King who knows d!c% about scouting players or building teams. Warriors drafted Green through trade that night,Curry,Thompson,Barnes, hey built through draft. Buddy shut up and sit down. Awesome pic. Crowder can be dealt now. 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Ainge consolidated a couple of his early 2nd rounders and as said above he only has so many roster spots and already has a 48 win time at his disposal.

If he couldn’t get the right draft day deals for his higher picks, he’s probably drafted BPA in his view and will still have an open mind to trades in FA market.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Ainge consolidated a couple of his early 2nd rounders and as said above he only has so many roster spots and already has a 48 win time at his disposal.

If he couldn’t get the right draft day deals for his higher picks, he’s probably drafted BPA in his view and will still have an open mind to trades in FA market.

 

[CDPHParticipant]

It’s come out that Philly’s offer was nothing close to what was reported.  It’s always hard to know exactly what happened, one team leaks to their media that Philly offered a crazy deal and it was turned down.  The other team leaks that the deal didn’t happen because they actually wanted more in return than just the #3 pick from Boston.  

Who knows.  The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.  

I actually like Yabusele a lot, his team stunk but he showed a lot more of a total game this year.  

All and all, not a great draft for the Celtics.  They are also going have a real numbers crunch as far as their roster goes.  

DEEP(ish) Thoughts 

 

 

 

[CDPHParticipant]

It’s come out that Philly’s offer was nothing close to what was reported.  It’s always hard to know exactly what happened, one team leaks to their media that Philly offered a crazy deal and it was turned down.  The other team leaks that the deal didn’t happen because they actually wanted more in return than just the #3 pick from Boston.  

Who knows.  The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.  

I actually like Yabusele a lot, his team stunk but he showed a lot more of a total game this year.  

All and all, not a great draft for the Celtics.  They are also going have a real numbers crunch as far as their roster goes.  

DEEP(ish) Thoughts 

 

 

 

[220Participant]

 Do you know what the 76ers actually offered for the third pick? I’m just curious.

[220Participant]

 Do you know what the 76ers actually offered for the third pick? I’m just curious.

[SubZeroParticipant]

So Ainge probably leaked that Philly was offering Okafor to try and get teams to offer something bigger and beat them out?

[EndlessknightParticipant]

It’s the Noel, 24/26 plus Covington offer for #3 that’s being reported as BS. Ainge probably leaked that to make people think the demand for #3 was a lot more than it was.

I think the reality is the Sixers wanted #3 plus more for Okafor and Ainge wouldn’t do it.

[EndlessknightParticipant]

It’s the Noel, 24/26 plus Covington offer for #3 that’s being reported as BS. Ainge probably leaked that to make people think the demand for #3 was a lot more than it was.

I think the reality is the Sixers wanted #3 plus more for Okafor and Ainge wouldn’t do it.

[SubZeroParticipant]

So Ainge probably leaked that Philly was offering Okafor to try and get teams to offer something bigger and beat them out?

[I am an idiotParticipant]

As a Celtic fan, I am disappointed. The picks are fine (let’s face it, this is a mediocre draft class and no one after Ingram is a sure thing). They may end up with a journeyman player or two (Ainge has a pretty good draft record, though it is far from perfect).

However, the C’s came in as a .500 team that will win a handful of additional regular season games based on depth, youth and coaching but lose in the first payoff round and left in exactly the same position.

Last night, the C’s showed why this is the worst place to be in the NBA. Thankfully, we have two more chances for the Nets to get us over the hump.

 

  

[I am an idiotParticipant]

As a Celtic fan, I am disappointed. The picks are fine (let’s face it, this is a mediocre draft class and no one after Ingram is a sure thing). They may end up with a journeyman player or two (Ainge has a pretty good draft record, though it is far from perfect).

However, the C’s came in as a .500 team that will win a handful of additional regular season games based on depth, youth and coaching but lose in the first payoff round and left in exactly the same position.

Last night, the C’s showed why this is the worst place to be in the NBA. Thankfully, we have two more chances for the Nets to get us over the hump.

 

  

[ashock34Participant]

 What is wrong with Danny Ainge? The whole idea of collecting assets is to use them to make your team better. Why he could not simply do a clean deal with Philly for a needed big is beyond me. He had to hold them up for their picks too! When Philly countered by asking for #16 he blew a gasket and drafted Brown! He at least should have drafted Dunn and tried to move him for a better deal. Do we need to do a intervention about his out of control draft pick thing? We want to win now Danny!!!

[ashock34Participant]

 What is wrong with Danny Ainge? The whole idea of collecting assets is to use them to make your team better. Why he could not simply do a clean deal with Philly for a needed big is beyond me. He had to hold them up for their picks too! When Philly countered by asking for #16 he blew a gasket and drafted Brown! He at least should have drafted Dunn and tried to move him for a better deal. Do we need to do a intervention about his out of control draft pick thing? We want to win now Danny!!!

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Ashock34. Bobby blue collar mother"; cker. Sit back and shut up. 

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Ashock34. Bobby blue collar mother"; cker. Sit back and shut up. 

[Al PerezParticipant]

 I called the Jaylen Brown pick two weeks ago leading up to the draft, and got ripped on here for it 🙁

The French Draymond Green has extremely high upside and I’ve heard that’s who the Spurs were targeting and trying to move up for…Spurs getting Murray is a steal tho…

Zizic is an excellent pick and was def the best big man left on the board

I was excited about Deyonta Davis but we already have Jordan Mickey who we have been grooming and to get first rd pick down the line…who knows how bad the Clippers could be in a couple years. Seriously…..great move.

Demetrius Jackson is going to push Rozier and has a chance to stick

 And to add Bentil with that pick….he might end up being the steal of the draft 

I have the C’s as one of the clear winners of the night, he wasn’t going to get low balled or suckered into making a trade and he took high upside picks that all fill a role. 

[SubZeroParticipant]

Well if the Spurs wanted him, he’ll probably be an All-Star

[SubZeroParticipant]

Well if the Spurs wanted him, he’ll probably be an All-Star

[Al PerezParticipant]

 I called the Jaylen Brown pick two weeks ago leading up to the draft, and got ripped on here for it 🙁

The French Draymond Green has extremely high upside and I’ve heard that’s who the Spurs were targeting and trying to move up for…Spurs getting Murray is a steal tho…

Zizic is an excellent pick and was def the best big man left on the board

I was excited about Deyonta Davis but we already have Jordan Mickey who we have been grooming and to get first rd pick down the line…who knows how bad the Clippers could be in a couple years. Seriously…..great move.

Demetrius Jackson is going to push Rozier and has a chance to stick

 And to add Bentil with that pick….he might end up being the steal of the draft 

I have the C’s as one of the clear winners of the night, he wasn’t going to get low balled or suckered into making a trade and he took high upside picks that all fill a role. 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Ironic how after all the mocks going up and down Brown and Bender ended up at 3 and 4 where they were in the mocks for several months earlier last season.

I still don’t think Philly would have given up Okafor for 3rd pick as I’d argue that they were ublikely to get a better prospect than him at 3rd this year especially as people are saying Saric was considered being worth a possible top 5 pick this year.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Ironic how after all the mocks going up and down Brown and Bender ended up at 3 and 4 where they were in the mocks for several months earlier last season.

I still don’t think Philly would have given up Okafor for 3rd pick as I’d argue that they were ublikely to get a better prospect than him at 3rd this year especially as people are saying Saric was considered being worth a possible top 5 pick this year.

 

[ashock34Participant]

 We are going to regret not getting Okafor when we had the chance. Danny dropped the freakin ball here. I dont know one center in the NBA that can do the things Oak can with the rock. Yes he needs work on D but at 19? He will learn and we will regret!

 

[binetParticipant]

 The reported deals were very much about Noel at the end, not Okafor. The thing with Okafor is that most 6ers fans want him gone because of Joel Embiid and the dream he represents, but his value should be very high, higher than #3 pick. Noel’s value is way less since he is not viewed as a clear cut starter in this league, and still, his value was close to the #3 pick apparently. Also, it’s very possible some teams gave the 6ers options for a later Okafor trade (I am thinking Hawks-Grizzlies here, teams that are likely to shift into rebuilding teams, or even the Hornets, who may want to rejuvenate instead of resigning Jefferson, himself maybe targeting a contender…).

Honestly, Okafor for #3 seemed to good to refuse, the guy is perhaps the 3rd best big in his class, but Towns and Porzingis are probably the best there has been since Anthony Davis, Okafor should end up an all star.

 

[binetParticipant]

 The reported deals were very much about Noel at the end, not Okafor. The thing with Okafor is that most 6ers fans want him gone because of Joel Embiid and the dream he represents, but his value should be very high, higher than #3 pick. Noel’s value is way less since he is not viewed as a clear cut starter in this league, and still, his value was close to the #3 pick apparently. Also, it’s very possible some teams gave the 6ers options for a later Okafor trade (I am thinking Hawks-Grizzlies here, teams that are likely to shift into rebuilding teams, or even the Hornets, who may want to rejuvenate instead of resigning Jefferson, himself maybe targeting a contender…).

Honestly, Okafor for #3 seemed to good to refuse, the guy is perhaps the 3rd best big in his class, but Towns and Porzingis are probably the best there has been since Anthony Davis, Okafor should end up an all star.

 

[ashock34Participant]

 We are going to regret not getting Okafor when we had the chance. Danny dropped the freakin ball here. I dont know one center in the NBA that can do the things Oak can with the rock. Yes he needs work on D but at 19? He will learn and we will regret!

 

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