Combine Measurement Rumors
These are non comfirmed, but Jeff Goodman of CBS sports tweeted this information. They could be right or wrong, but some are pretty interesting.
Austin Rivers is 6'5'' in shoes
Sullinger measured exactly 6'9'' in shoes
Beal was 6'4.25'' in shoes with a 6'8'' wingspan
Thomas Robinson only measured 6'8.75'' in shoes, but had a larger than expected 7'3'' wingspan and 5% body fat.
I gotta give it to you Joewolf, you were right about TRobs body fat % being so low. Also Rivers being that tall in shoes is surprising, but I'm not a big "in shoes" measurment fan, players have gained and lost inches year to year depending on the shoes they wear at combine, ask Mustafa Shakur how he lost a half an inch from year to year.
I'm curious to see what he weighed, because if he was over 240 with that little body fat....dang. That under 6'9'' in shoes may hurt his stock though, but then again his wingspan is 2'' longer than many thought it was.
I hear you, man, I go back and forth on that. Part of me knows that ball players don't play barefoot, but I know a barefoot height is a better indicator of one's actual size. Cole Aldrich was wearing moon shoes a couple years ago, lol, he gained like 2'' there's no way he plays NBA games in those shoes.
Exactly ^^. Some of these players wear stiletto shoes to the combine.
Sam Amik of SI.com is reporting Tony Wroten measured 6'6'' in shoes, but I watched him stink up shooting drills today. I'll be curious as to what his stock looks like after this weekend.
Austin Rivers barely looked taller than 6'3 in his games at Duke...
Tim Duncan and Blake Griffin are listed and inch apart!!! Have you seen them next to eachother, it's at least a four inch difference. But I digress. TRob is better off slipping instead of having too much pressure on him as a top pick. I really see him as a Brandon Bass/Udonis Hasslem type of player. Only reason I want him going high is so he can help out his baby sister financially but I think he'll be set either way.
No way Duncan is 4inc taller than Blake when Duncan is a legit 6'10. Blake is not 6'6
I agree 100%. The barefoot height is the truest indicator. Of course you don't play barefoot but there is way too much variation between height increases with shoes on. Now if every player wore the exact same shoes and each had the same increases in height from being barefoot that would be cool but that's not the case. Some players get a .75 inch increase while others increase 1.75 inches with shoes. Some players might as well throw on some timberlands george costanza style and measure that way
Anyone know when they are releasing athletic measurements entirely? Probably this time next week?
I've stood side by side with Austin Rivers a few times at Duke. There's no way he's any shorter than 6'4.
"Sam Amik of SI.com is reporting Tony Wroten measured 6'6'' in shoes, but I watched him stink up shooting drills today. I'll be curious as to what his stock looks like after this weekend."
Negligible, like most of everything that comes out today or tomorrow. It really shouldn't be shocking when someone is within one inch of his listed height, nor should it be when someone who made 13 percent of his threes in the Pac 12 struggles shooting the ball in drills.
I can get it when the guy listed at 6' 11" comes in at 6' 8" or the guy who was considered to be a chiseled 250 lbs. actually weighs 220 lbs. Not the little stuff. If guys stay in their ballpark figures, it really shouldn't change much.
^I knew he was a bad shooter coming in, but did you watch it? because it was one of the worst jumpers I've seen in a while. It's not like he had a nice follow through and was cold. A lot of bad shooters have good form and just need reps. Tony Wroten is not one of those guys.
No I didn't, but I wouldn't expect a 19-year old to fix a major flaw in his game from March to early June.
Just repeating what I saw today, man. Not trying to pretend it was some profound statement.
I'm a firm believer that you can more then make up for a precieved lack of height at your position (1-3inches) with athleticism.
Your competition may be longer and taller but if your a rock down low, have great cardio, good explosiveness... its no contest. Height measurements are way overblown in importantance.
Some of the best players of all time never fit "the mold" but made up for it by being hard workers, smarter and more skilled.
Seriously, whens the last time 2 inches mattered when you were boxed out properly? How well did those 2 inches serve you when you can't make a jump shot on offense, or you bite on every pump fake on D?
All things being equal then yeah, a few inches is make or break but the true worth of a ball player is extremely complex and 2 inches is a fraction of the entire equation.
Yeah, standing reach is a much more important measurement than the top of someone's head, IMO. It's just funny how much an inch or two can effect a players' stock. It's GM's and front office guys, IMO, I think a coach knows which guys can play and which one's look good on paper.
Duncan has 2.5 inch over Griffin!
Is in my eye test a 7 footer. Even watch last nights game when he stands next to Durant. And we all know Durant is a legit 6 10. Watch them hug at the end of the game
Agreed, standing reach and wingspan is much more important. But actually what the players do on the basketball court is really the only thing that counts. Dennis Rodman is the greatest rebounder of all time and an HOF, but he played PF at about 6' 6".
The Wroten thing is funny because he is viewed as a major talent. But he couldn't shoot last year. The thing is, during a game an athletic guy like that might miss a jumper, but then on the next two plays drive the lane. So if you are watching him you kind of forget about the missed jumpers a bit. In that shooting drill you got to see a season's worth of jumpers in a few minutes. And apparently it was a nightmare. It is just confirming what the stats allready say (No J!) but still it is probably a shocker because very few guards get to this level with that bad a jumper. That said, Rondo probably doesn't look good in those drills and that guy is a beast.
Duncan is over 7 feet. You can tell that by last night game how he was taller than both Durant and Perkins and also Durant looks taller than Perkins. Duncan true height like Garnett is a mystery. Shaq was like 7'2' in shoes but he went by his pair feet height.
If Rivers is 6'5" in shoes he is definitely looking top ten. I thought he would measure out smaller.
KG is said to be 7'1 and honestly he looks it. I seen Austin at my job kid had 3 to 4 inches on me and I am over 6'1
draftexpress had him 6'5'' in shoes and Im glad. He should be the 6th or 7th pick in the draft. Factor in his speed and crossover I think he is one of the 4 allstars in this draft
Beal having a wingspan of 6'8'' helps immensley. I guess the Eric Gordon comparisons are close though I thought EG was better at getting to the hoop
6'8.75 is 6'9''. The wingspan helps alot too. Isnt that like Larry Johnson wingspan?
Duncan is not over 7 feet. He even admitted to not being over 6'10. And yeah watching someone on tv is a great way to tell their height because the camera is never at a angle and the players are always standing back to back.
Wroten's jumper is no surprise. It's not much worst than Andre Miller or Rondo at the same stage. The thing is it can get better and he is already 6'6 with very good handles and great passing ability. Just needs to go to the right situation and work on his game and decision making, he's already a very good defender as well so you know he is a hard worker
Rivers said in an interview today he's been told that he will go somewhere in the 4-12 range. Now that's a pretty big range, and I don't see him as a top 5 pick, but that's still really high compared to where he's been rated all year. He could just be trying to improve his own stock, but at 6'5 with that offensive ability, I can easily see a team going for him early in hopes of landing a star, which I have always that he can be.
in the combien : what do they exactly call REACH ? how do they measure it ?
that's why I ask ...