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  • #22510
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    Zeke33
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    i say this like every year…but i think the clippers could possibly be playoff bound. but every year they do terrible. maybe there ttruly is a curse. they failed with camby, kaman, and Baron but does Blake Griffin and a much improved Eric Gordan get them in??

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  • #418016
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    John-Bryant-54

    no I disagree

     

    Here’s a quick list of teams that are better

    Lakers

    Mavericks

    Thunder

    Nuggets

    Rockets

    Grizzlies

    Spurs

    Hornets

    Trailblazers

    Jazz

    Kings

    Suns

    Maybe even the Warriors.

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  • #418026
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    John-Bryant-54

    no I disagree

     

    Here’s a quick list of teams that are better

    Lakers

    Mavericks

    Thunder

    Nuggets

    Rockets

    Grizzlies

    Spurs

    Hornets

    Trailblazers

    Jazz

    Kings

    Suns

    Maybe even the Warriors.

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  • #418018
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    butidonthavemoney

    You’re right. People say the same thing every single year.

    I think they’ll be improved, but they won’t be able to make the playoffs. There is too much talent in the West.

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  • #418028
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    butidonthavemoney

    You’re right. People say the same thing every single year.

    I think they’ll be improved, but they won’t be able to make the playoffs. There is too much talent in the West.

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  • #418021
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    Zeke33
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    John Bryant how are the Kings better?? They may not make the playoffs but the Kings?? theyre not THAT bad. I think they can be a 8,9, 10 seed.

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  • #418032
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    Zeke33
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    John Bryant how are the Kings better?? They may not make the playoffs but the Kings?? theyre not THAT bad. I think they can be a 8,9, 10 seed.

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  • #418052
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    I think they are a playoff team. I don’t see the Suns making it. This Clippers team is pretty nice and deep as well. I feel if Griffin is healthy and could play 75-82 games, this is a playoff team.

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  • #418041
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    I think they are a playoff team. I don’t see the Suns making it. This Clippers team is pretty nice and deep as well. I feel if Griffin is healthy and could play 75-82 games, this is a playoff team.

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  • #418048
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    butidonthavemoney

    Griffin’s health and Baron Davis’ performance are the two most important factors.

    I still hestitate to put the Clippers in the same playoff-bubble group as Memphis, Phoenix and Denver.

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  • #418058
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    butidonthavemoney

    Griffin’s health and Baron Davis’ performance are the two most important factors.

    I still hestitate to put the Clippers in the same playoff-bubble group as Memphis, Phoenix and Denver.

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  • #418065
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    Im Your Father
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    I just don’t think Denver is making the playoffs. Either they are going to suck without Melo, or they are going to have awful chemistry with Melo. If he gets traded, which seems likely, they will go into rebuilding mode. 

    For Phoenix, I know Nash has traditionally been able to do a lot with a little, but he’s getting older and they lost Amare. I know Nash really elevated STAT’s game, but I think went both ways and the Suns are really going to miss him. 

    If Chris Paul returns to MVP caliber form than they are better, but if not I’ll take the Clippers.

    The Kings suck, people overrate them because they have Cousins and Evans. A lot of teams have young talent, the Warriors have young talent, The Twolves have young talent, none of those teams will be good.

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  • #418076
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    Im Your Father
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    I just don’t think Denver is making the playoffs. Either they are going to suck without Melo, or they are going to have awful chemistry with Melo. If he gets traded, which seems likely, they will go into rebuilding mode. 

    For Phoenix, I know Nash has traditionally been able to do a lot with a little, but he’s getting older and they lost Amare. I know Nash really elevated STAT’s game, but I think went both ways and the Suns are really going to miss him. 

    If Chris Paul returns to MVP caliber form than they are better, but if not I’ll take the Clippers.

    The Kings suck, people overrate them because they have Cousins and Evans. A lot of teams have young talent, the Warriors have young talent, The Twolves have young talent, none of those teams will be good.

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  • #418069
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    SubZero
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    You’re underrating the Kings, Zeke. They’re gonna have a pretty good year, as long as everyone stays healthy. Udrih isn’t bad, Tyreke is the future as well as Cousins, Greene has plenty of potential and Casspi is a serviceable SF, Landry is a great 6th man, Thompson is a good starter, and Dalembert is a nice defensive/rebounding C.

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  • #418080
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    SubZero
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    You’re underrating the Kings, Zeke. They’re gonna have a pretty good year, as long as everyone stays healthy. Udrih isn’t bad, Tyreke is the future as well as Cousins, Greene has plenty of potential and Casspi is a serviceable SF, Landry is a great 6th man, Thompson is a good starter, and Dalembert is a nice defensive/rebounding C.

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  • #418079
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    John-Bryant-54

    Correct me if I’m wrong but the clippers have.. an overweight point guard, an undersized shooting guard, no good small forward, a rookie power forward, and a weak center.

     

    whereas the kings have

    a PROVEN franchise player in tyreke, decent point guard, 2 good swingmen in greene and casspi, and 4 servicable bigs, 2 of which were 12+ppg scorers

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  • #418090
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    John-Bryant-54

    Correct me if I’m wrong but the clippers have.. an overweight point guard, an undersized shooting guard, no good small forward, a rookie power forward, and a weak center.

     

    whereas the kings have

    a PROVEN franchise player in tyreke, decent point guard, 2 good swingmen in greene and casspi, and 4 servicable bigs, 2 of which were 12+ppg scorers

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  • #418081
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    butidonthavemoney

    The whole is not always the sum of its parts.

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  • #418092
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    butidonthavemoney

    The whole is not always the sum of its parts.

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  • #418083
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I watched LAC during the pre-season and Davis actually looks pretty slim. Gordon is undersized, but it hasn’t been a problem thus far. He has the strength and length to defend the two. And that "rookie" power forward they have is pretty effing good lol. Kaman was an All-Star last season and looks in shape as well.

    Not to mention LAC actually has a decent bench unlike the last few seasons.

    I don’t think they’ll make the playoffs, but they’re better than the Kings.

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  • #418093
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I watched LAC during the pre-season and Davis actually looks pretty slim. Gordon is undersized, but it hasn’t been a problem thus far. He has the strength and length to defend the two. And that "rookie" power forward they have is pretty effing good lol. Kaman was an All-Star last season and looks in shape as well.

    Not to mention LAC actually has a decent bench unlike the last few seasons.

    I don’t think they’ll make the playoffs, but they’re better than the Kings.

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  • #418177
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    stanford hoops

    I doubt the clippers make it. They still aren’t that good. They might get 10 more wins than last year and that’s not bad. They aren’t better than Denver. Not even close. They have looked pretty bad in preseason with there starters vs other teams starters and there bench isn’t that good. It’s a different story when the top teams lose in the preseason because they could care less for the most part so that’s not comparable. The clippers team defense is still below average as well

    They aren’t better or close to

    Dallas
    Lakers
    Okc
    Denver
    Utah
    Rockets
    Memphis
    Suns
    Portland
    Spurs

    They are at least two steps behind those teams. Good individual talent but as a team they aren’t on that level

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  • #418188
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    stanford hoops

    I doubt the clippers make it. They still aren’t that good. They might get 10 more wins than last year and that’s not bad. They aren’t better than Denver. Not even close. They have looked pretty bad in preseason with there starters vs other teams starters and there bench isn’t that good. It’s a different story when the top teams lose in the preseason because they could care less for the most part so that’s not comparable.  The clippers team defense is still below average as well

    They aren’t better or close to

    Dallas
    Lakers
    Okc
    Denver
    Utah
    Rockets
    Memphis
    Suns
    Portland
    Spurs

    They are at least two steps behind those teams. Good individual talent but as a team they aren’t on that level

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  • #418261
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    RUDEBOY_
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    The Kings need some more backcourt help and outside shooting..Until they address these 2 needs..They’ll remain in neutral….

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  • #418272
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    RUDEBOY_
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    The Kings need some more backcourt help and outside shooting..Until they address these 2 needs..They’ll remain in neutral….

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  • #418263
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I think the Clippers will be in a battle for that 8th spot..The Suns will struggle this year..They wont make the playoffs..Aminu is a sleeper..And if Griffin can stay injury free he’ll will be a Monster..

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  • #418274
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I think the Clippers will be in a battle for that 8th spot..The Suns will struggle this year..They wont make the playoffs..Aminu is a sleeper..And if Griffin can stay injury free he’ll will be a Monster..

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  • #418273
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    I pick the Clippers as the darkhorse to make it in the playoffs in the West… They have so much talent in their line up… You can’t miss it with Blake Griffin who is determined to bounce back after failing to appear a single game last year, then you got a much improved Eric Gordon especially after what he has shown in the international competition… He is proving his worth as more than just another tweener… Chris Kaman and DeAndre Jordan to be your big men… One is a skilled-offensive center while the other is a raw athlete who can block shots… Baron Davis is lookin’ fine so far and I hope he won’t be a liability this season… It really depends upon him now since he is the captain..

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  • #418284
    marcusfizer21marcusfizer21
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    I pick the Clippers as the darkhorse to make it in the playoffs in the West… They have so much talent in their line up… You can’t miss it with Blake Griffin who is determined to bounce back after failing to appear a single game last year, then you got a much improved Eric Gordon especially after what he has shown in the international competition… He is proving his worth as more than just another tweener… Chris Kaman and DeAndre Jordan to be your big men… One is a skilled-offensive center while the other is a raw athlete who can block shots… Baron Davis is lookin’ fine so far and I hope he won’t be a liability this season… It really depends upon him now since he is the captain..

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  • #418277
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    Zeke33
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    Chris Kaman is weak? hes averaged close to 9 reb per game thru his career. when he is healthy hes shown signs of being a beast. and  Baron over weight? this is a former allstart now boarder line allstar who is one of the top guards in the league when he is healthy. Gordon im not a fan of but hes improving alot. Rasul butler is a great role player with a stroke and Amanu is a solid rebound and athlete off the bench. The clippers look nice if they stay healthy. and as for Sub Zero saying the Kings have good small forwards…thats their weakness. how is Greene and Caspi solid starting small forwards? Rasul butler may be better than both of them. You used the word "potential" as in the Kings have a bright future which i think they do. but for now they suck. and Jason Thompson is not starting this year. and Udrich isnt bad but he def isnt good either. Every player other than reke on the kings are very streaky mainly Greene, Caspi, and Udrich. Dalembert was a disapointment last year to. and who knows what we will see out of cousins this year. Clippers are def better than Sac

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  • #418288
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    Zeke33
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    Chris Kaman is weak? hes averaged close to 9 reb per game thru his career. when he is healthy hes shown signs of being a beast. and  Baron over weight? this is a former allstart now boarder line allstar who is one of the top guards in the league when he is healthy. Gordon im not a fan of but hes improving alot. Rasul butler is a great role player with a stroke and Amanu is a solid rebound and athlete off the bench. The clippers look nice if they stay healthy. and as for Sub Zero saying the Kings have good small forwards…thats their weakness. how is Greene and Caspi solid starting small forwards? Rasul butler may be better than both of them. You used the word "potential" as in the Kings have a bright future which i think they do. but for now they suck. and Jason Thompson is not starting this year. and Udrich isnt bad but he def isnt good either. Every player other than reke on the kings are very streaky mainly Greene, Caspi, and Udrich. Dalembert was a disapointment last year to. and who knows what we will see out of cousins this year. Clippers are def better than Sac

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  • #418283
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    stanford hoops

    In the 8th spot over who? Spurs,Portland, Denver ,lakers,Dallas, Houston,Utah , okc

    They are head and shoulders below all thoses teams and it’s not even that close

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  • #418294
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    stanford hoops

    In the 8th spot over who? Spurs,Portland, Denver ,lakers,Dallas, Houston,Utah , okc

    They are head and shoulders below all thoses teams and it’s not even that close

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  • #418287
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    Zeke33
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    my predictions…

    1. LAL 2. Dallas 3. Utah 4. OKC 5. Portland 6. Denver 7. San Antonio 8. LAC or NO. I dont see houston being that great. they did nothing to get better this off season and lost Ariza

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  • #418298
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    Zeke33
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    my predictions…

    1. LAL 2. Dallas 3. Utah 4. OKC 5. Portland 6. Denver 7. San Antonio 8. LAC or NO. I dont see houston being that great. they did nothing to get better this off season and lost Ariza

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  • #418289
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    butidonthavemoney

    Yao Ming?

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  • #418300
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    butidonthavemoney

    Yao Ming?

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  • #418291
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    Zeke33
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    foot problems? hel be lucky to finish half the season and play more thn 20 mins a game. he on his last legs

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  • #418302
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    Zeke33
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    foot problems? hel be lucky to finish half the season and play more thn 20 mins a game. he on his last legs

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  • #418308
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    omphalos
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    Two playoff worthy teams that are in doubt to make it this year are the Rockets and Nuggets; if Yao can’t stay healthy or if Melo leaves both of those teams are probably going to drop out. That said, I don’t think the Clippers are the team to make that last spot.

    Memphis are my pick to sneak in; Xavier Henry will be a great addition off the bench and Conley is in a do or die situation. That said, I see the Clippers and New Orleans competing for 9th in the West if the Rockets lose Yao.

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  • #418297
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    omphalos
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    Two playoff worthy teams that are in doubt to make it this year are the Rockets and Nuggets; if Yao can’t stay healthy or if Melo leaves both of those teams are probably going to drop out. That said, I don’t think the Clippers are the team to make that last spot.

    Memphis are my pick to sneak in; Xavier Henry will be a great addition off the bench and Conley is in a do or die situation. That said, I see the Clippers and New Orleans competing for 9th in the West if the Rockets lose Yao.

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  • #418313
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    Mr. Jewboy
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     i think you guys are underestimating the rockets

    if without yao they have a chance to make the playoffs, after all they were the best non-playoff team last year

    this year they got patrick patterson and a real center in brad miller, and also have a lot of young players that should be much improved like budinger and hill. they’ve also got martin for a full year so he might be more productive

    im just sayin dont count them out even if they lose yao

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  • #418324
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    Mr. Jewboy
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     i think you guys are underestimating the rockets

    if without yao they have a chance to make the playoffs, after all they were the best non-playoff team last year

    this year they got patrick patterson and a real center in brad miller, and also have a lot of young players that should be much improved like budinger and hill. they’ve also got martin for a full year so he might be more productive

    im just sayin dont count them out even if they lose yao

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  • #418319
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    mj23mj23bestever
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    the west is so loaded its hard to predict who makes the play offs at the bottom seeds but imo the clips will certainly be in the hunt for the 8th  seed along with the suns the hornets simply because of how damn good cp3 is the rockets imo will also be in the hunt they were the best play non play off team klast year and even if yao only gives u 20 minutes they still have brad miller to fill in the rest of the center minutes gotta comment on gordon being undersized at the 2 hes so long and physically strong it makes up for his lack of height on d

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  • #418329
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    mj23mj23bestever
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    the west is so loaded its hard to predict who makes the play offs at the bottom seeds but imo the clips will certainly be in the hunt for the 8th  seed along with the suns the hornets simply because of how damn good cp3 is the rockets imo will also be in the hunt they were the best play non play off team klast year and even if yao only gives u 20 minutes they still have brad miller to fill in the rest of the center minutes gotta comment on gordon being undersized at the 2 hes so long and physically strong it makes up for his lack of height on d

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  • #418333
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    Platypus
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    Until the Clipps can get a 3 then i think they are on the outside looking in they will be 8-10 it’ll be close but they need a small forward

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  • #418344
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    Platypus
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    Until the Clipps can get a 3 then i think they are on the outside looking in they will be 8-10 it’ll be close but they need a small forward

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  • #418339
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @stanford hoops

    I agree and disagree with you. I agree that LAC’s team defense is below average and that, as of right now, I can’t see them making the playoffs. I can also agree with them winning about 10 more games this season.

    However, I disagree with you about the Clippers starters looking bad vs other teams’ starters. They RAN the Spurs’ starters off of the floor lol.  

    Del Negro has his work cut out for him, BUT if he can get the Clippers to play better team defense, ***play hard for 48 minutes consistently*** and can establish a legit closer… I think they COULD have a chance.

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  • #418350
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @stanford hoops

    I agree and disagree with you. I agree that LAC’s team defense is below average and that, as of right now, I can’t see them making the playoffs. I can also agree with them winning about 10 more games this season.

    However, I disagree with you about the Clippers starters looking bad vs other teams’ starters. They RAN the Spurs’ starters off of the floor lol.  

    Del Negro has his work cut out for him, BUT if he can get the Clippers to play better team defense, ***play hard for 48 minutes consistently*** and can establish a legit closer… I think they COULD have a chance.

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  • #418380
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    stanford hoops

    Yea that’s one game and against a top team who doesn’t take the presses as serious as the bottom teams. Overall the clippers havnt looked good in the preseason. They don’t play good team defense and there bench just isn’t scary. That doesn’t include injuries that will come up( they always do for the clippers). They will not be a 50 win team this year( that’s what it will take to make the playoffs in the west) that would be a hell of a jump from
    Last year and I like Blake but adding him just isn’t gonna get a team 20-30 more wins in one season( I don’t remember there record last year)

    And Memphis is also better

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  • #418389
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    stanford hoops

    Yea that’s one game and against a top team who doesn’t take the presses as serious as the bottom teams. Overall the clippers havnt looked good in the preseason. They don’t play good team defense and there bench just isn’t scary. That doesn’t include injuries that will come up( they always do for the clippers). They will not be a 50 win team this year( that’s what it will take to make the playoffs in the west) that would be a hell of a jump from
    Last year and I like Blake but adding him just isn’t gonna get a team 20-30 more wins in one season( I don’t remember there record last year)

    And Memphis is also better

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  • #418382
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    Jlv2010

    Kings > Clippers

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  • #418391
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    Jlv2010

    Kings > Clippers

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  • #418394
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    Hitster
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    The Clippers have always looked good on paper but never seem to produce but anything around .500 would be a good season for them as they bed the young core in.

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  • #418403
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    Hitster
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    The Clippers have always looked good on paper but never seem to produce but anything around .500 would be a good season for them as they bed the young core in.

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  • #418422
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    I NO NOTHING
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    try  reverse psychology and say clippers wont make the playoffs maybe the curse will be broken.

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  • #418430
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    I NO NOTHING
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    try  reverse psychology and say clippers wont make the playoffs maybe the curse will be broken.

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  • #418427
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    John-Bryant-54

    Doesn’t matter how good Blake Griffin is projected to be, he still hasn’t played an NBA game, and Tyreke Evans had a terrific 20-5-5 season. Even if Blake would have played last year, Tyreke would have still taken R.O.Y. honors.

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  • #418434
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    John-Bryant-54

    Doesn’t matter how good Blake Griffin is projected to be, he still hasn’t played an NBA game, and Tyreke Evans had a terrific 20-5-5 season. Even if Blake would have played last year, Tyreke would have still taken R.O.Y. honors.

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  • #418920
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    IndianaBasketball
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    "Even if Blake would have played last year, Tyreke would have still taken R.O.Y. honors."

    You don’t know that lol.

    I thought Blake could’ve averaged a double double last season, not to mention help get the Clippers into the playoffs. AT ONE POINT, the Clippers were in the playoff race. That all went down the drain once it was announced the Blake would miss the entire season.

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  • #418928
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    IndianaBasketball
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    "Even if Blake would have played last year, Tyreke would have still taken R.O.Y. honors."

    You don’t know that lol.

    I thought Blake could’ve averaged a double double last season, not to mention help get the Clippers into the playoffs. AT ONE POINT, the Clippers were in the playoff race. That all went down the drain once it was announced the Blake would miss the entire season.

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  • #418959
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    " I thought Blake could’ve averaged a double double last season, not to mention help get the Clippers into the playoffs. AT ONE POINT, the Clippers were in the playoff race. That all went down the drain once it was announced the Blake would miss the entire season. "

    Blake missed the whole season…so when were they in the playoff race…during the preseason…The Clippers are the West Coast Knicks…they have tons of hype around them…The Truth is this…

    Baron is too erratic to place any faith in him…1 year he’s focus and a top 10 Pg…the next year he’s fat and lazy and is not a top 20 Pg…

    Gordon is too short to play Sg all 48 minutes/82 games…Gordon has been injured dam near his whole career and his better suited to be a 6th man/instant offense guy…stop with Team USA Gold Medal making Gordon this fringe All star, he’s not…I watch every game he played at IU and was a Big Gordon guy but I know he’s a 6th man on a good Team…

    Aminu is too raw to start and won’t crack 24 Minutes with Butler and Gomes in front of him…He’s looked better than Blake this preseason…has far as improvement goes not #’s

    Griffin is being over rated, no GM thinks he’s going to be Karl Malone in year 1, he may never live up to the hype around him…he hasnt played a NBA game and already he’s the Key to a Playoff birth, he was just re injured and may miss a lot of time through out his career…

    Kaman is on the trading block and has been since the Clippers cheap ass owner drafted Jordan, as soon as they get a decent trade Offer Kaman is gone…He’s the best big they have and they’ll trade that a.s.s for a Real 2G or SF…

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  • #418966
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    " I thought Blake could’ve averaged a double double last season, not to mention help get the Clippers into the playoffs. AT ONE POINT, the Clippers were in the playoff race. That all went down the drain once it was announced the Blake would miss the entire season. "

    Blake missed the whole season…so when were they in the playoff race…during the preseason…The Clippers are the West Coast Knicks…they have tons of hype around them…The Truth is this…

    Baron is too erratic to place any faith in him…1 year he’s focus and a top 10 Pg…the next year he’s fat and lazy and is not a top 20 Pg…

    Gordon is too short to play Sg all 48 minutes/82 games…Gordon has been injured dam near his whole career and his better suited to be a 6th man/instant offense guy…stop with Team USA Gold Medal making Gordon this fringe All star, he’s not…I watch every game he played at IU and was a Big Gordon guy but I know he’s a 6th man on a good Team…

    Aminu is too raw to start and won’t crack 24 Minutes with Butler and Gomes in front of him…He’s looked better than Blake this preseason…has far as improvement goes not #’s

    Griffin is being over rated, no GM thinks he’s going to be Karl Malone in year 1, he may never live up to the hype around him…he hasnt played a NBA game and already he’s the Key to a Playoff birth, he was just re injured and may miss a lot of time through out his career…

    Kaman is on the trading block and has been since the Clippers cheap ass owner drafted Jordan, as soon as they get a decent trade Offer Kaman is gone…He’s the best big they have and they’ll trade that a.s.s for a Real 2G or SF…

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  • #418965
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    IndianaBasketball
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    How can I take anything you say seriously when you said Aminu looked better than Griffin this pre-season?

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  • #418972
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    IndianaBasketball
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    How can I take anything you say seriously when you said Aminu looked better than Griffin this pre-season?

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  • #418981
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    not Numbers…do you read anything any one posts or do u just get defensive when some one says something Other than Gordan is The Man and Griffin will be 20 and 10 this year…

    Gordon is 6th man in a perfect world…if the Clippers had a good 6’5 SG they would bench Gordon and have him play the role of a 3rd guard/Instant Offense guy…

    Griffin will be a Kenyon Martin Clone early in his career…remember the Young K Mart…That’s exactly who he plays like, not Karl Malone or Charles Barkley…he runs, he jumps, he dunks the basketball…he’s got a half decent shot and post game and all of the sudden he’s a future Hall of Famer…

    Aminu has actually improved his shooting and ball handling ability…he is making strides at becoming a solid pick and guess what he and Blake have played the same amount of NBA games…Aminu will likely play more games than Blake this year and honestly if you cant see that Griffin will be an injury prone player throughout his entire NBA career your blind…he already missed time this preseason with an ankle injury…how’s he gonna stay healthy for 82 games playing like this monster you all claim he is…

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  • #418988
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    not Numbers…do you read anything any one posts or do u just get defensive when some one says something Other than Gordan is The Man and Griffin will be 20 and 10 this year…

    Gordon is 6th man in a perfect world…if the Clippers had a good 6’5 SG they would bench Gordon and have him play the role of a 3rd guard/Instant Offense guy…

    Griffin will be a Kenyon Martin Clone early in his career…remember the Young K Mart…That’s exactly who he plays like, not Karl Malone or Charles Barkley…he runs, he jumps, he dunks the basketball…he’s got a half decent shot and post game and all of the sudden he’s a future Hall of Famer…

    Aminu has actually improved his shooting and ball handling ability…he is making strides at becoming a solid pick and guess what he and Blake have played the same amount of NBA games…Aminu will likely play more games than Blake this year and honestly if you cant see that Griffin will be an injury prone player throughout his entire NBA career your blind…he already missed time this preseason with an ankle injury…how’s he gonna stay healthy for 82 games playing like this monster you all claim he is…

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  • #419001
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     the clippers are way better than the kings. if baron davis plays like he should they could sneak in so that they can lose to the lakers first round. Eric Gordon is a great shooter and improved alot this summer, if aminu pans out they have a good small forward, blake griffin will be an absolute beast if hes healthy( they are saying he is the second best pf in the NBA already, and the second best rebounder, not sure if i agree with either but im just saying), kaman is one of the more underrated players in the nba, randy foye is a solid bench option along with ryan gomes. I dont see what is so garbage about this team besides the fact that they are the clippers.

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  • #419008
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     the clippers are way better than the kings. if baron davis plays like he should they could sneak in so that they can lose to the lakers first round. Eric Gordon is a great shooter and improved alot this summer, if aminu pans out they have a good small forward, blake griffin will be an absolute beast if hes healthy( they are saying he is the second best pf in the NBA already, and the second best rebounder, not sure if i agree with either but im just saying), kaman is one of the more underrated players in the nba, randy foye is a solid bench option along with ryan gomes. I dont see what is so garbage about this team besides the fact that they are the clippers.

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  • #419003
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    Do you just want to argue or something?

    You act like I’ve written that Gordon is the next big thing. Truth is, I’m not sure if he can become an elite (Brandon Roy or Joe Johnson level) two guard. I do think he’s a starter who plays both ends of the floor though. He’s short in height, but has the length, strength and athleticism to defend either wing position. You seem to think he’s Ben Gordon 2.0, which is your opinion I guess.

    You’ve never seen me predict Griffin to average 20 and 10 this season. I do think 15 and 10 is within reason. Griffin is MUCH better than Kenyon Martin though. Better feet. Better hands. Better all-around game. Better FEEL for the game. Higher IQ. You’re missing that one, but once again… That’s your opinion.

    It’s going to take time for Griffin to improve his post game, etc. He still needs work on his man to man defense, but looks VERY improved as a team defender. His jumpshot also looks slightly improved. Regardless of numbers or not… Aminu didn’t look better than Griffin this pre-season.

    And how many players suffer ankle injuries lol. His ankle injury isn’t serious, but why play on it during the pre-season? They’re just being pre-cautious.

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  • #419010
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    Do you just want to argue or something?

    You act like I’ve written that Gordon is the next big thing. Truth is, I’m not sure if he can become an elite (Brandon Roy or Joe Johnson level) two guard. I do think he’s a starter who plays both ends of the floor though. He’s short in height, but has the length, strength and athleticism to defend either wing position. You seem to think he’s Ben Gordon 2.0, which is your opinion I guess.

    You’ve never seen me predict Griffin to average 20 and 10 this season. I do think 15 and 10 is within reason. Griffin is MUCH better than Kenyon Martin though. Better feet. Better hands. Better all-around game. Better FEEL for the game. Higher IQ. You’re missing that one, but once again… That’s your opinion.

    It’s going to take time for Griffin to improve his post game, etc. He still needs work on his man to man defense, but looks VERY improved as a team defender. His jumpshot also looks slightly improved. Regardless of numbers or not… Aminu didn’t look better than Griffin this pre-season.

    And how many players suffer ankle injuries lol. His ankle injury isn’t serious, but why play on it during the pre-season? They’re just being pre-cautious.

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  • #419021
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    Little bit off topic, but biggest anti-climax when I turned on the TV last season for opening night game of Lakers vs Clippers after hearing Griffin hyped all off-season only to find out he was injured. Here’s hoping he’s playing this time around.

     

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  • #419028
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    Little bit off topic, but biggest anti-climax when I turned on the TV last season for opening night game of Lakers vs Clippers after hearing Griffin hyped all off-season only to find out he was injured. Here’s hoping he’s playing this time around.

     

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  • #419023
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Ain’t that the truth… I felt like somebody punched me in the stomach lol.

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  • #419030
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Ain’t that the truth… I felt like somebody punched me in the stomach lol.

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  • #419025
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    he’s just like Kenyon was coming out of college…and who ever said Griffin is the 2nd best Pf in The NBA is seriously High on paint chips…He’s not better than Pau,Dirk,Amare,Bosh,Garnett,Lee,Horford, and many more…when the season starts and he’s exposed to real starters taking that ass inside and outside nightly he’ll fall back into that K Mart territory…

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  • #419032
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    he’s just like Kenyon was coming out of college…and who ever said Griffin is the 2nd best Pf in The NBA is seriously High on paint chips…He’s not better than Pau,Dirk,Amare,Bosh,Garnett,Lee,Horford, and many more…when the season starts and he’s exposed to real starters taking that ass inside and outside nightly he’ll fall back into that K Mart territory…

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  • #419053
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    Clippers were in the playoff race in the preseason last year or maybe after the first 10 games. They were NEVER seriously in the playoff race.  They are like the westcoast knicks except worst.  

    Worst franchise in the HISTORY of any sport. Even college 

    Aminu looks better than Blake? Lmao

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  • #419060
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    Clippers were in the playoff race in the preseason last year or maybe after the first 10 games. They were NEVER seriously in the playoff race.  They are like the westcoast knicks except worst.  

    Worst franchise in the HISTORY of any sport. Even college 

    Aminu looks better than Blake? Lmao

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  • #419081
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     it was on espn they said hes already looking like the 3rd(im sorry i accidentally said second) best pf in the league after pau and bosh but thats a little much but he is still an athletic freak and hustles more than most people 

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     it was on espn they said hes already looking like the 3rd(im sorry i accidentally said second) best pf in the league after pau and bosh but thats a little much but he is still an athletic freak and hustles more than most people 

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  • #419095
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    U wouldn”t pick Blake before Dirk, Amare, Garnett or David Lee, Al Horford and Josh Smith…He’s not a top 10 Pf yet…that’s the premature shyt I’m talking about…You believe a big man that has not played 1 official game is better than Hall of Famers like Dirk and KG already…Stop That Talk…your adding to the hype that’s gonna make this guy a Bust…

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  • #419103
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    U wouldn”t pick Blake before Dirk, Amare, Garnett or David Lee, Al Horford and Josh Smith…He’s not a top 10 Pf yet…that’s the premature shyt I’m talking about…You believe a big man that has not played 1 official game is better than Hall of Famers like Dirk and KG already…Stop That Talk…your adding to the hype that’s gonna make this guy a Bust…

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