[draft2017Participant]

The cavs have been quiet this free agency, are there any free agents they’re are targeting? Are they looking to make the playoffs or are they still trying to get a high pick? With the roster they have now it doesnt look like they will make the playoffs

[derrickrose231Participant]

 if they could get a top 5 pick next year then they would have an outstanding core

[Cavaliers420Participant]

Honestly right now the only three players I can actually see them targetting in FA is Alexey Shved(PG/SG?),Ersan Ilyasova(PF/SF?) and Sonny Weems (SG). All would want minutes but Alexey Shved is coming over from Europe for the first time. Ilyasova played with the Bucks last season and averaged 13 PTS 8 rebs. Also I think the Bucks have already offered him 10 mil a year for 4 years and I’m not sure if the Cavaliers will match. So to answer your entire question/thread yes we are planning to be in the Lotto again next year. The Cavaliers are trying to create a core through the draft and allow that core to age and mature to the next level together, it is definitely going to take some time in order to do that.

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

They have the money and assets to make moves but it makes more sense to stand pat. They’ll be paying Kyrie/Waiters/Thompson/Zeller $10.8M next year. Yikes. Varejao, who Bill Simmons picked as an all-star starter last year before he got injured, is a bargain at at 3yr/$22.1M and the third ($9.8M) year is a team option. Luke Walton is a big expiring, and other than that no one is hampering the cap more than $1.5 lol and the aformentioned four young guys are the only four players locked down entering the 2014 season. 

Can’t blame ’em for wanting to see just how good these four young guys can be with as much as $45M to spend next if they so choose…after which they could have another top draft pick! Gilbert didn’t win a title before LeBron but he’s in great shape for the future. 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

It looks like the Cavs are using the OKC model of building with draft picks.
In the 2013 draft I think James McAdoo would be a great fit if he can play the 3.
If not, then they could be looking at a twin towers approach with Tyler Zeller and Nerlens Noel
or a Cody and Tyler pairing for the Zeller combo.

They need a small forward but it looks like most guys at the top of the draft boards are centers and power forwards.

Shabaaz Mohammed is a good option as a shooting guard, which would allow them to move Dion Waiters into a sixth man role.

It will be interesting to see how they do next year. They won’t make the playoffs but they should be better.

[laarethekingsParticipant]

 Cavs are in year two of a three year building plan. Just like OKC. Year one Durant, Green. Year two Westbrook.  Year three Harden. 

Cavs… Year one Irving, thompson. Year two Waiters, Zeller. And year three ? Who knows. 

[Tight ButtholeParticipant]

As far as free agents, Cleveland doesnt seem to be making any waves at all. Cavaliers420 pretty much summed it up with the contract offer to Schved, showing interest in Ilyasova and Weems, but likely will get 1 of the 3. They wont match Ilyasova offer for sure though.

But with Cleveland trying to build through the "OKC model", I just hope they dont forget they have to actually field a whole roster before the season starts.

Chances are they’ll be drafting top 4 again next year and hope to land Shabazz as a bonafied starting SG, or McAdoo or Poythress at SF.

[Charlie SheenParticipant]

I’m confused on their part

Its likely they’ll be good enough where they miss out on Zeller, Miuhammad and Noel which makes drafting Waiters and Zeller #2 smart BUT I feel they could have done better and here’s what I mean

Thomas Robinson is available at 4 when you’re picking, even though you got Tristan Thompson, Robinson is far more better. Then you got 24, 33 and 34 where you could have done some real damage.

At 24 you got Perry Jones available and then with 33 and 34 you could have picked Doron Lamb and Darius Miller

I know bringing in 4 rookies isn’t a great way to build but

Lamb, Miller and Robinson are all very mature players. Come from winning programs and understand winning basketball while also playing well off of Irving.

Perry Jones is the X-Factor. His game is more suited for the NBA because college is so guard dominant. He is a versatile 3/4 who would thrive with Irving setting him up.

Robinson/Lamb/Jones/Miller > Waiters/Zeller

Now with a core of

PG- Irving, PF- Robinson, PF- Thompson, SF- Miller, SG- Lamb, F- Jones III, C- Varejao and the opportunity to draft either a developmental center or defensive 2-Guard

Irving, Robinson and Miller providing the leadership. Lamb/Miller knocking down shots, Thompson and Varejoa holding down the paint, Jones growing and providing mismatches while Irving and Robinson revolutionize the pick and roll becoming a version of Paul and Blake

Thats just how I would have done it

[MikezParticipant]

Varejao is a PF, not a center.  He was forced into that role, he is an energetic 4 to come off the bench (Until hes traded).

Picking T Rob would have made last years #4 pick a giant waste as TT and T Rob will likely put up similar numbers pts/rebs.

I like what the Cavaliers did with this draft and this years free agency, they’re filling roster spots without trying to get significantly better.  I expect the Cavs to have a top 7 pick this coming year which could line them up with a SF.

The only thing the Cavaliers need to do right now is find a veteran SG willing to come off the bench to mentor Dion Waiters into the nba game just like Jamison did with TT.

[220Participant]

At this point Cleveland is likely the team who doesn’t get considered until the big name teams are done making their choices. Truthfully when you have a young team like them, it’s best not to add anyone to stunt your guys growth…so even when they make an addition I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a minor addition.

[draft2017Participant]

the cavs are looking at derek fisher

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2012/07/cavaliers_interested_in_nba_ve.html

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

Charlie Sheen,

I like your point. Thomas Robinson and Perry Jones are two guys I like. I don’t think they knew PJIII would be there that late though. T Rob, PJIII, and TT would give them an ultra-athletic front line if they went small.

The could have used Doron Lamb in the back up shooter role. He seems like he will be a solid rotation player for a while.

I think that Draymond Green is another talented guy who can do some of everything. He’s a good leader and intangibles guy and I think he could have worked.

I actually like Tyler Zeller though. Not sold on Dion Waiters but we will see what happens.

I think they need two more great drafts. Get a guy each time and that will give them six young players as a core. You can’t pay more than that anyway (3 max deals, 2 or 3 mid-level).

I like the potential of a Kyrie Irving-Tyler Zeller combo. Next year I think they need to go Best Player Available. I Zeller combo would be cool if they get a top 2 pick. Nerlens Noel looks good too. Shabazz Mohammed would be a great pick around 3 or 4 but they would have to move this year’s 4th pick (Dion Waiters) to the bench in a sixth man role. If they pick in the mid-lottery to late lottery then Adonis Thomas might be the guy they will be looking at. He’s a solid player, I watched him a few times last year but I don’t think he will be a superstar. He needs to work more on his small forward game (he still might be a little undersized for a 3) and continue to improve his outside shot. That could be a good fit. He would give them another core guy, but outside of Kyrie Irving I don’t see a potential superstar in the bunch.

Last year I thought they should have gone in another direction at 4. Maybe that Jonas Valancunias guy. At the time I thought that the 2012 draft was loaded at power forward, and that, ironically, Jared Sullinger (an Ohio State guy) could end up being the best guy on the board. This year’s draft did have a bunch of power forwards. Maybe they should have gone in that direction in 2011 and gotten a center to stash away for a year and then gone with a power forward this year.

It’s hard to predict these drafts and how these rookies will turn out. However, they may end up regretting passing on Andre Drummond. He’s a big man with a lot of upside and he probably just needed a great point guard to play with.

But, if Tyler Zeller and Waiters flourish, and if TT continues to improve, and if they get the third pick in the draft and land James McAdoo then I think this Cavs team will be right on track.

[draftmangtParticipant]

 I haven’t seen Shabazz Muhammad play and don’t know alot about his game but does anyone think he could play the 3 at the next level?

[sheltwon3Participant]

I like what they are doing.  Waiters has a high chance of panning out.  Irving is the real deal.  Thompson so far is serviceable.  Zellers should help in the front court. They should resign Gee who played great for them.  They also has some solid bench players on the cheap.  Varejo is solid in his role at the 5 for now but I have heard they spoke with Kaman’s agent a while back but for the most part things has been quiet.  There are still a lot of talent out there and they are just being patient and could get some steals.  Also I am sure next year they can add another piece to their team.  They could still take a look a Brandon Rush, Mickael Pietrus, Delfino, Gerald Green, Ryan Anderson, Donte Green, Josh Howard, CJ Miles, etc.

 

There are tons of swingman available that can be had for cheap. 

I think Webster and Barnes will be available as well.

[akhan786Participant]

I think they found their Harden (Waiters), Green (Zeller), and Ibaka (Thompson), but they need to suck just one more year so they can get their Westbrook in next years draft which could be any one of Poythress, McAdoo, or Muhammad.

I’m not exactly sold on the Cavs version of Harden, Green, Ibaka yet…but I’m willing to give them at least three years to see if they pan out. I don’t think many people thought OKC’s picks of Harden, Green, and Ibaka would turn out as well as they did either…

[hinzman23Participant]

Shabazz Muhammad is very strong & really athletic. He should have height & legth comparable to MKG so i think he could play SF in the NBA

[JunkYardDogParticipant]

in two years, they decided to draft Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters and Tyler Zeller whereas they could have picked : Valanciunas, Barnes or Robinson, Jones or Moultrie, Green AND Lamb or Barton…

… they could go in the top10 ten years in a row if they keep on drafting like that they won’t build nothing. 

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