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What moves does John Paxson have to make to shake up the Chicago Bulls lineup via trade?


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Paxson Keep Your Eyes Open

I see major market teams like the New York Knicks getting rid of cap space seemingly everyday! I can't help but wonder. What are we doing here in Chicago? We have a team full of attractive role players and one budding star in Derrick Rose. Players who are eating up our cap space like Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden and I will even go as far as saying Kirk Hinrich. Not saying that these are not quality players but I just don't see them in the long term plans in Chicago. I am appreciative of everything that these players have done for the city of Chicago- mainly Hinrich. But it is time to move on. I really do believe that the city of Chicago is cheating Mr. Kinrich. Seeing that we do not see him as our point guard of the future. His position was stolen, I mean inherited by the future top point guard in this league Derrick Rose. Former Chicago Bull Chris Duhon has moved on to New York with great success and I am happy for him. I feel that Kirk Hinrich will have equal if not greater success than him in any system. Teams will always need quality point guards and Chicago is in despirate need of quality big men. Earlier today Carlos Boozer announced that he will opt out of his contract. I would like to be the first to say that I would love to see him in a Chicago Bulls jersey. I just feel like the city of Chicago and the NBA is beeing cheated. I feel that there are lots of players on the Bulls roster that teams would love to have. I personally would like to hear what they would be giving up for those players the results just might surprise you. Don't get me wrong I love and respect everything that John Paxson has done for the city of Chicago. He has created a little buzz within the city with his roster. But this is the city of Jordan! A man in which he knows quite well. We are bored with the usual play hard, hope we win, second round exit teams. With young and athletic teams in the east like Atlanta and Indiana and veteran teams like Boston and Detroit we really aren't looking too good. I mention Indiana because no one on our roster can match up with Danny Granger he is the truth! We are no longer just that young team that needs time. This is slowing but surely becoming an underachieving veteran team. The season really means NOTHING! Come playoff time super heroes like Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant put on their capes. Derrick Rose is only a rookie he needs help. Bring T-Mac to Chicago. Him and all the injuries. Atleast when he is healthy we know what to expect. We are so used to injuries in Chicago that the man would just fit right in. Give up Hinrich, Gooden and whoever else. That leaves us with Rose at the point. T-Mac at the two-guard. Deng at the three. Rotate through all of the big men that we have like Tyrus Thomas, Joakim Noah, Aaron Gray and the rarely seen Cedric Simmons. We would at the very least be a competitive team in the Eastern conference. This also leaves us cap space to acquire a post presence, like the one I mentioned earlier, Carlos Boozer. These are all just fantasies of mine but a fan could dream right. Like some of us all feel sometimes we could do the job better than the GM's sometimes. But I just again would like to say to Paxson. I thank you for the job that you have done and continue to do. But this is a spoiled city we do not stay satisfied for long....

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How about this trade?

Hey, I'm a Sixer fan and right now we currently have an aging and expiring contract Miller as our starting PG. We have Lou Williams waiting in the wings, but how about a trade involving Hinrich? I was thinking sending Dalembert, Ivey, and Rush for Hinrich, Sefolosha, and Simmons. Dalembert is currently struggling with Brand along side him, but it being he'd be the only true big in the starting line-up (at least in the future years) in Chicago it would give him the freedom to have the numbers he's had in years past. He's a very good shot blocker when he's left to be the lone man to clog the paint on defense. And his contract is shorter in length (2 years 23.5 mil) vs. Hinrich (3 years 26 mil). Dalembert would be solid for you guys as he and Rose could be the Chris Paul/Chandler combo of the East, being that Dalembert is an amazing leaper for alley-oops. Ivey is only left for one more year, and given playing time (he isn't getting any in Philly) he could be a player more suited for backup than Hinrich. Plus you have to do deal with Sefolosha's lottery rookie contract, when you know you don't need him. Rush's contract ends this year, and Ivey's next year (unless he opts out this year). So over the longevity, you guys are eating up less salary. The big thing is, you are getting players that can fill roles, while giving up players you don't necessarily need.

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BIGGGG

The Bulls have one of the best back-courts in the league with D-Rose and Gordon. Even with that dynamic duo, they just do not have the frontcourt to compete with most of the teams in the East. By trading away pieces such as Kirk Hinrich and Tyrus Thomas, they can acquire a legitimate big man and possibly capture that 8th seed in the Eastern conference.

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Sam D

I'm sorry but Sam D is not worth the 33.5 million dollars that you all owe him. I would much rather keep Kinrich. I believe that we in Chicago could get so much more for him. I really would like to see Chris Kaman in a Chicago Bulls jersey though. I would be willing to part ways with Hinrich for him and maybe even Thabo and Aaron Gray. But not for the poors-mans Tyson Chandler Sam D in Philly. We have already have had too many bigs in Chicago that can't create their own shot. Tyson Chandler, Ben Wallace and just look at our current roster. Most of the guys on our team just wait for Derrick Rose or another guard to toss them an alley-hoop. We need a big that could establish his position un the paint, grab some rebounds and sometimes score points on his own. We don't need an all world big man in Chicago. Look at our recent history and success we never really have. But I'm just saying that the acquasition of Derrick Rose has made Chicago a way more attractive place for NBA players because they actuallly have someone to play with....

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Typo

Actually it's 23.5 Mil for Dalembert salary over the next 2 years my bad, I added this year's salary which would be 33.5 over three years which includes this year...I'm still curious that since rumor, had Hinrich not have gotten injured, was almost traded for Al Harrington straight up during the time Harrington was not playing, makes it curious what the Bulls view of Hinrich's value...this may be more of a possibility than you think...

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You are right

I understand where you are comig from. Yes I do remember that John Paxson was about to trade Hinrich, or at the very least there was a rumor, for Al Harrington. That would have been a good acquasition. I just don't see the bulls taking on a contract like Samuel Dalembert's. This actually would make no sense. The reason being is that if the Chicago Bulls are going to make a trade for Sam D, they should have just kept Tyson Chandler. I honestly don't know what Paxson was thinking when he let Chandler go. He then went out and signed the bust that was Ben Wallace in a Bulls jersey. He actually gave Ben Wallace more money than he would have had to give up to keep Tyson Chandler. I just don't see this happening! Sam D does not answer our scoring problem down low. We already have Tyrus Thomas to patrol the paint and get the weakside blocks and respectable rebounding. Bring Chris Kaman to Chicago....Lineup Point Guard- Derrick Rose, Shooting Guard- Luol Deng, Small Foward- Tyrus Thomas, Power Foward- Drew Gooden, Center- Chris Kaman and Sixth Man- Ben Gordon. I have been saying since we drafted Tyrus Thomas that he is too short to play the four. He is athletic enough to play the three. Make the man take jumphots in practice so that it becomes respectable. We do not need him to hit any three pointers. All we need him to do is run the floor, be active on defense and catch alley-hoops. Moving Deng to the Two-Guard would create mismatches for alot of teams in the league. He is 6'9" and you cannot leave him open anywhere midrange. We have the pieces for the trade lets make it happen. Clippers you have your choice. I am willing to part with Larry Hughes, Thabo Sefolosha, Aaron Gray and a second round pick. This will give Baron some much needed backcourt help and second rounder that you all could use in a very backend deep draft.

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Hah I see you are very hopeful getting a scoring big...but the example you gave would not work...Kaman's contract is smaller that both Hinrich and Hughes each meaning the Bulls would have to take more players in return to match contracts. Why would the Clippers be willing to do that when they lack depth already? And I don't mean to rub this in your face but the Bulls did draft Joakim Noah (skinny, non-translatable NBA offensive abilities) after they drafted Thomas (the undersized 4 like you mentioned) and signing the declining skills of Ben Wallace...don't you think your GM likes taking bigs that can't score or are not that right size in this league? But hey, Dalembert is not that bad at all. I actually see him very much so on the same playing level of Chandler rather than the poor man's version. Compare Dalembert's numbers last year (10 PPG, 10 RPG 2 BPG) and Chandler this year (8.6PPG, 8 RPG, 1.5BPG) under the same MinPG (31). It's just the situation in Philly unfortunately is going to have to be him, or Brand, and since Brand has established himself as a star, was the big free agent pick up, and the emergence of Speights, Dalembert is the odd man out. Give him a great PG like you guys have in Rose, and a system that is willing to use him in the offense unlike Philly's..and you mind have yourself a real quality guy in your hands.

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face lift

they need a new face lift

the offense the nets are running
the dribble and drive

made devin harris excell

look at iverson to

speed point gaurds like rose would do great in that system i head the phrase a ball player is a ball player but damnn gordon is derricks size we need a bigger 2 gaurd

Gordon isnt in the bulls future to u see how long it took them to sign him this summer

they signed him so they can trade him
and get wins for now

they need to get ready for 2010

starting now

draft maybe earl clark ,demar and if it come to it chase

and trade trade trade

deng
andre noccioni
hughes
hunter
gooden

the whole roster unreliable i like hinrich and thomas tho

but dam they need to trade

not to CLEAR CAP SPACE!!!!

but to rebuild

and clear a lil space for the up n coming free agencys

get a shotting big some one to spread the floor

and a post savy dominat big some one who can score down low n get boards

make it something like utah

put rose in deron williams shoes

have a big like boozer an one like okur

and when he runs out his contract made a stong bid for joe johnson
he and wade a be a night mare
hes a way better scorer then ben and can play 3 postions

the bulls they have right now arent going nowhere

so they need to make there situation like utah

and get a great sg

wade,johnson,juss get a sg that a do

then the floor a spread for evey one

and u cant double team because

every one on the floor can score and has lots of room

and rose a be way better by then

the juss need a layout

now

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