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  • #31183
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    providencefriars1
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    I tend to agree with most of these except for the exclusion of Dee Bost who is one of my sleepers. The some of the freshman are a  little high too.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/results/top100/_/year/2012

    1. Anthony Davis
    2. Harrison Barnes
    3. Michael Gilchrist
    4. Perry Jones
    5. Quincy Miller
    6. Brad Beal
    7. James McAdoo
    8. Jared Sullinger
    9. Austin Rivers
    10. Terrence Jones
    11. Patric Young
    12. Marquis Teague
    13. John Henson
    14. Thomas Robinson
    15. Myck Kabongo
    16. Adonis Thomas
    17. Mason Plumlee
    18. Tyler Zeller
    19. Jeremy Lamb
    20. LeBryan Nash
    21. Jeff Taylor
    22. Josh Smith
    23. Kris Middleton
    24. CJ Leslie’
    25. Doron Lamb
    26. Tony Wroten
    27. Andrew Nicholson
    28. Terrence Ross
    29. Kendall Marshall
    30. Tomas Sortansky
    31. Mouphtaou Yarou
    32. Arnett Moultrie
    33. Festuz Ezeli
    34. Tu Holloway
    35. Lucas Noguiera
    36. Khem Birch
    37. PJ Hariston
    38. John Jenkins
    39. Augusto Lima
    40. Will Buford
    41. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    42. Rodney Williams
    43. Wayne Blackshear
    44. Nenad Miljenovic
    45. Tyshawn Taylor
    46. Rakeem Christmas
    47. Kris Joseph
    48. Deshaun Thomas
    49. Nemanja Nedovic
    50. Keith Appling
    51. Deandre Daniels
    52. Evan Fournier
    53. Kevin Jones
    54. Ray McCallum
    55. JaMychal Green
    56. Elias Harris
    57. Alex Oriakhi
    58. Joesph Franch
    59. Tomislav Zubic
    60. Jordan Taylor
    61. Josiah Turner
    62. Micheal Carter-Williams
    63. Nurideen Lindsay
    64. Tony Mitchell(UNT)
    65. Aaric Murray
    66. Arsalan Kazemi
    67. Reggie Johnson
    68. Joffrey Lauvergne
    69. BJ Young
    70. Marshall Plumlee
    71. Fab Melo
    72. Renardo Sidney
    73. Leon Radosevic
    74. Trevor Mbakwe
    75. Cody Zeller
    76. John Shurna
    77. Miles Plumlee
    78. Peyton Siva
    79. Kenny Boynton
    80. Quincy Acy
    81. Wesley Witherspoon
    82. Will Barton
    83. Vander Blue
    84. Maalik Wayns
    85. Wally Judge’
    86. Darius Johnson-Odom
    87. Reggie Bullock
    88. Mario Delas
    89. Bradford Burgess
    90. Dejan Musli
    91. Dante Taylor
    92. Yancy Gates
    93. Hollis Thompson
    94. Seth Curry
    95. J’Covan Brown
    96. Xavier Gibson
    97. Nihad Djedovic
    98. Jamar Samuels
    99. Ashton Gibbs
    100. Micheal Snaer
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  • #555788
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    Prince of Bball
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    Barnes has to be #1 from the get go no?

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  • #555846
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    Prince of Bball
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    Barnes has to be #1 from the get go no?

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  • #555808
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    Lotto Stud
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    Let’s play the who won’t declare game!

     

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  • #555866
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    Lotto Stud
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    Let’s play the who won’t declare game!

     

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  • #555812
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    Maalik Wayns #84! YEA RIGHT DUDE! See this face ———> O_o

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  • #555869
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    Maalik Wayns #84! YEA RIGHT DUDE! See this face ———> O_o

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  • #555816
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    providencefriars1
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    Oo I was going to mention that and Tim Hardaway Jr is missing too. Thanks for reminding me

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  • #555873
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    providencefriars1
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    Oo I was going to mention that and Tim Hardaway Jr is missing too. Thanks for reminding me

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  • #555818
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    MagikKnick
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    I swear Tony Wroten is a big time sleeper, that ankle injury really dropped him on a few boards, his freshman year he’ll be sure to rise right back up, imo

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  • #555875
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    MagikKnick
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    I swear Tony Wroten is a big time sleeper, that ankle injury really dropped him on a few boards, his freshman year he’ll be sure to rise right back up, imo

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  • #555822
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    sbealer22
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     Wayns is the 84th ranked player. He is DEFINATELY above Yarou

    Marshall is only 29

    Henson is at 13

    Ok list though

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  • #555879
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     Wayns is the 84th ranked player. He is DEFINATELY above Yarou

    Marshall is only 29

    Henson is at 13

    Ok list though

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  • #555824
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    i think snaer should be higher. maybe that is just hs hype but the guy is better offensively than leslie who got drafted. snaer isnt quite as athletic but he isnt a slouch either. i mean is there really 99 players better than snaer? i doubt it.

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  • #555881
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    i think snaer should be higher. maybe that is just hs hype but the guy is better offensively than leslie who got drafted. snaer isnt quite as athletic but he isnt a slouch either. i mean is there really 99 players better than snaer? i doubt it.

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  • #555826
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    TRC1991
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    its sad to think that 2012’s 100th best prospect would have been a fringe 1st rounder in this draft

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  • #555883
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    TRC1991
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    its sad to think that 2012’s 100th best prospect would have been a fringe 1st rounder in this draft

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  • #555827
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    Glad to see my boy Snaer barely made the cut SMH has more potential then some of the guys on that list to be Dead Last.

    Abdul Gaddy could have made this list!

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  • #555885
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    Glad to see my boy Snaer barely made the cut SMH has more potential then some of the guys on that list to be Dead Last.

    Abdul Gaddy could have made this list!

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  • #555830
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    We all think we know who will declare……..but who do you think will not from this list?

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  • #555887
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    Lotto Stud
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    We all think we know who will declare……..but who do you think will not from this list?

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  • #555831
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    JNixon
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    Look out for Indiana’s 2 prospects Christian Watford and Victor Oladipo. And don’t say I didn’t warn you about these 2. I’m not making guarantees like last year, but I do think both will be good, intriguing prospects. More so for 2013 though.

    Watford is a face-up mismatch PF at 6’8 225-230. He’s gotta get stronger and tougher, but he’s a good talent.

    Oladipo is a freak athlete. He’s very similar to Travis Leslie. Long, strong physical high-flyer who’s skill level is behind his athletic ability. He’s the one of the absolute best athletes out there in college IMO.

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  • #555889
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    JNixon
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    Look out for Indiana’s 2 prospects Christian Watford and Victor Oladipo. And don’t say I didn’t warn you about these 2. I’m not making guarantees like last year, but I do think both will be good, intriguing prospects. More so for 2013 though.

    Watford is a face-up mismatch PF at 6’8 225-230. He’s gotta get stronger and tougher, but he’s a good talent.

    Oladipo is a freak athlete. He’s very similar to Travis Leslie. Long, strong physical high-flyer who’s skill level is behind his athletic ability. He’s the one of the absolute best athletes out there in college IMO.

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  • #555845
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     Some of those after 50 just get laughable. Maalik wayns, Vander Blue, Will Barton, Alex Oriakhi? These guys are far too low IMO. Wroten should be top 5 Imo. Beal is too high, other than that, decent. Would love for the new CBA to allow for highschoolers to declare. Get Drummond at 1.

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    iguapops420
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     Some of those after 50 just get laughable. Maalik wayns, Vander Blue, Will Barton, Alex Oriakhi? These guys are far too low IMO. Wroten should be top 5 Imo. Beal is too high, other than that, decent. Would love for the new CBA to allow for highschoolers to declare. Get Drummond at 1.

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  • #555854
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    It’s funny what can happen to a top prospect’s stock over a couple of months without any games to play. Rivers went from a consensus top 3 guy to #9 behind Brad Beal and NBA draft.net has him going at #11 also behind Beal.

    Kinda crazy, I still see Rivers as a top 5 player and capable of being an elite scorer in the NBA in the mold of Gilbert Arenas.

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  • #555912
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    It’s funny what can happen to a top prospect’s stock over a couple of months without any games to play. Rivers went from a consensus top 3 guy to #9 behind Brad Beal and NBA draft.net has him going at #11 also behind Beal.

    Kinda crazy, I still see Rivers as a top 5 player and capable of being an elite scorer in the NBA in the mold of Gilbert Arenas.

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  • #555909
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    kobyz
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    Henson is way too high, right now he is just energetic, lont athletic guy without skills, Amir Johnson clone!

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    kobyz
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    Henson is way too high, right now he is just energetic, lont athletic guy without skills, Amir Johnson clone!

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  • #555917
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    WizardofOz
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    Don’t sleep on Tony Wroten! Ever since the ACL injury, the whole world’s been sleepin on him! But he proved in the All-Star games that he’s still got it. He’ll be a one-and-done.

     

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  • #555976
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    WizardofOz
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    Don’t sleep on Tony Wroten! Ever since the ACL injury, the whole world’s been sleepin on him! But he proved in the All-Star games that he’s still got it. He’ll be a one-and-done.

     

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  • #555921
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    aamir543
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    How many of these guys would have gone number one this year? 4-6? At least 2 or 3.

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  • #555980
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    aamir543
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    How many of these guys would have gone number one this year? 4-6? At least 2 or 3.

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  • #556032
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    JDUD
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    Drew Gordon should be on this list

     

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  • #555973
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    JDUD
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    Drew Gordon should be on this list

     

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  • #556066
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    surve
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    Good list but Mason Plumlee too high, up until this point scoring is non-existant.  Renardo Sidney’s low ranking has almost nothing to do with his skill level outside of the fact that he needs to get in shape.   Jelan Kendrick seems to have been forgotten.

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  • #556008
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    Good list but Mason Plumlee too high, up until this point scoring is non-existant.  Renardo Sidney’s low ranking has almost nothing to do with his skill level outside of the fact that he needs to get in shape.   Jelan Kendrick seems to have been forgotten.

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  • #556070
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    I think Tarik Black should be on this list.

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  • #556011
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    Memphis Madness
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    I think Tarik Black should be on this list.

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  • #556045
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    I have no problem with Terrence Ross being on this list. But my thing is how can you have him so high at 28, and not even have his teammate CJ Wilcox on the list. All I saw Ross do last year was be a stand still 3 point shooter. And Wilcox his pretty much the same player, a spot up shooter. Ross didn’t do much more than him in all their games I’ve seen. So I just kind of don’t get that huge discrepency there. W/e though, we’ll see if they both can expand their games as their careers at Washington progress.

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  • #556103
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    I have no problem with Terrence Ross being on this list. But my thing is how can you have him so high at 28, and not even have his teammate CJ Wilcox on the list. All I saw Ross do last year was be a stand still 3 point shooter. And Wilcox his pretty much the same player, a spot up shooter. Ross didn’t do much more than him in all their games I’ve seen. So I just kind of don’t get that huge discrepency there. W/e though, we’ll see if they both can expand their games as their careers at Washington progress.

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  • #556110
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    providencefriars1
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    If you click on positional rankings you get some more guys so ill post those too, obviously Gillenwater and Majok are ineligible.

    101 Orlando Johnson

    102 Troy Gillenwater

    103 CJ Wilcox

    104 Brandon Paul

    105 Furkan Aldemir

    106 Draymond Green

    107 Roscoe Smith

    108 Jet  Chang

    109 Kostas Papanikolaou

    110 Elijah Johnson

    111 Drew Gordon

    112 Anthony Jones

    113 Olu Ashaolu

    114 Dwight Powell

    115 Brandon Triche

    116 Jon Kreft

    117 Abdoulaye Loum

    118 Tomasz Nowakowski

    119 Maurice Creek

    120 Ralph Sampson III

    121 Tim Hardaway Jr

    122 Robert Sacre

    123 Adreian Payne

    124 Herb Pope

    125 Negueba Samake

    126 Nikos Pappas

    127 Augustus Gilchrist

    128 Dee Bost

    129 Dion Waiters

    130 Milton Jennings

    131 Keith Clanton

    132 Abdul Gaddy

    133 Jelan Kendrick

    134 Mfon Udofia

    135 Royce White

    136 Matthew Dellavadova

    137 Laurence Bowers

    138 Durand Scott

    139 Domenic Cheek

    140 Ater Majok

    141 Marshawn Powell

    142 Chris Braswell

    143 Andrew Albicy

    144 Chris Johnson

    145 Kim English

    146 Robbie Hummel

    147 Leslie McDonald

    148 Tony Woods

    149 Taylor King

    150 Ty Walker

    151 Jon Riek

     

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    If you click on positional rankings you get some more guys so ill post those too, obviously Gillenwater and Majok are ineligible.

    101 Orlando Johnson

    102 Troy Gillenwater

    103 CJ Wilcox

    104 Brandon Paul

    105 Furkan Aldemir

    106 Draymond Green

    107 Roscoe Smith

    108 Jet  Chang

    109 Kostas Papanikolaou

    110 Elijah Johnson

    111 Drew Gordon

    112 Anthony Jones

    113 Olu Ashaolu

    114 Dwight Powell

    115 Brandon Triche

    116 Jon Kreft

    117 Abdoulaye Loum

    118 Tomasz Nowakowski

    119 Maurice Creek

    120 Ralph Sampson III

    121 Tim Hardaway Jr

    122 Robert Sacre

    123 Adreian Payne

    124 Herb Pope

    125 Negueba Samake

    126 Nikos Pappas

    127 Augustus Gilchrist

    128 Dee Bost

    129 Dion Waiters

    130 Milton Jennings

    131 Keith Clanton

    132 Abdul Gaddy

    133 Jelan Kendrick

    134 Mfon Udofia

    135 Royce White

    136 Matthew Dellavadova

    137 Laurence Bowers

    138 Durand Scott

    139 Domenic Cheek

    140 Ater Majok

    141 Marshawn Powell

    142 Chris Braswell

    143 Andrew Albicy

    144 Chris Johnson

    145 Kim English

    146 Robbie Hummel

    147 Leslie McDonald

    148 Tony Woods

    149 Taylor King

    150 Ty Walker

    151 Jon Riek

     

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  • #556151
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    He should have learned by now that he shouldn’t overhype the kids coming out of high school. John Riek playing against overmatched prep school kids was 9th in 2008. In 2012, he is 151st. He has ten of his top twenty being incoming freshman, and I guarantee that come June 2012 there will not be anything close to ten freshmen going in the top twenty. I feel completely comfortable writing that because it has never before happened before, and when 2011 was supposed to be "the year of the freshman" it ended up with six freshmen actually being drafted (seven if you count Kanter) and all of three (four with Kanter) in the lottery.

    http://www.121s.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=&m=281288

    1 Michael Beasley PF 6-9 235 18 Kansas State Top 5
     A big-time talent who will go very high as long as he behaves himself at… more
     2 Derrick Rose PG 6-4 195 19 Memphis Top 5
     The best pure point guard in the draft draws some comparisons to Deron Williams. However,… more
     3 Eric Gordon SG 6-5 205 19 Indiana Top 5
     One of the most gifted prospects from the high school class of 2007. He can… more
     4 O.J. Mayo SG 6-4 195 20 USC Top 5
     Mayo is off to a solid start for USC, but scouts are still trying to… more
     5 DeAndre Jordan C 7-0 240 19 Texas A&M Top 10
     On talent, he’s got the makings of a top-five pick. But scouts are concerned enough… more
     6 Chase Budinger SG 6-7 190 19 Arizona Top 10
     Budinger had a great freshman season at Arizona and has quickly asserted himself as the… more
     7 Darrell Arthur PF 6-10 215 20 Kansas Top 10
     Shocked just about everyone coming out of the gate and contributing to a very talented… more
     8 Brook Lopez C 7-0 245 19 Stanford Lottery
     Brook’s stellar play toward the end of his freshman season turned a lot of NBA… more
    9 John Riek C 7-2 230 18 Prep School Lottery
     There is a lot of controversy over Riek, but the consensus from NBA scouts and… more
     10 D.J. Augustin PG 5-11 180 20 Texas Lottery
     Augustin was one of the two or three best freshmen point guards in the country… more
     11 Ty Lawson PG 6-0 190 20 North Carolina Lottery
     Lawson didn’t put up the best numbers, but some scouts felt he had the most… more
     12 Donte Greene SF 6-8 215 19 Syracuse Lottery
     Versatile forward is off to a hot start for Syracuse. While he still needs to… more
     13 Kosta Koufos C 7-1 250 18 Ohio State Lottery
     His stock skyrocketed this summer after he dominated the 18-and-under European Championships. After a strong… more
     14 Marreese Speights C 6-10 250 19 Florida Lottery
     With Al Horford and Joakim Noah in the NBA, a lot is falling on Speight’s… more
     15 Nicolas Batum SF 6-8 210 19 France Lottery to mid first round
     A few international scouts believe he’s the best prospect outside the United States. His dominance… more
     16 Kevin Love C 6-9 255 19 UCLA Lottery to mid first round
     Love’s game is old-school with a flair for the spectacular. He has enough talent to… more
     17 DeVon Hardin C 6-11 235 21 California Lottery to mid first round
     Hardin was great in draft workouts and is off to a solid senior season. However,… more
     18 Roy Hibbert C 7-2 265 21 Georgetown Lottery to mid first round
     He’s been all over the boards with scouts over the past few years. They love… more
     19 Danilo Gallinari SF 6-9 212 19 Italy Lottery to mid first round
     Many in Italy feel he’s a better long-term prospect than Andrea Bargnani. Right now his… more
     20 J. J. Hickson PF 6-9 240 19 NC State Lottery to mid first round
     A rising young player who, on paper, looks like a prospect. If he can dominate… more
     21 Trent Plaisted C 6-11 245 21 BYU Mid to late first round
     After a stellar freshman season and a so-so sophomore campaign, he’s really come on as… more
     22 Jerryd Bayless PG 6-3 190 19 Arizona Mid to late first round
     Arizona is moving him to the point this season which means he’ll have to share… more
     23 Darren Collison PG 6-1 165 20 UCLA Mid to late first round
     Scouts love his speed and his floor leadership. As the NBA turns more up-tempo, Collison’s… more
     24 Ante Tomic C 7-2 237 20 Croatia Mid to late first round
     Tomic is big-time prospect. He has a rare combination of size, skill and athletic ability…. more
     25 Chris Douglas-Roberts SG 6-6 195 20 Memphis Late first to early second
     Douglas-Roberts is one of the more under-rated players in the country. He should really benefit… more
     26 JaVale McGee C 7-0 237 19 Nevada Late first to early second
     Scouts are starting to buzz on McGee. He’s still a year or two away from… more
     27 Hasheem Thabeet C 7-3 265 20 Connecticut Late first to early second
     Thabeet was pegged early as a potential late lottery sleeper. His size, athleticism and growing… more
     28 Serge Ibaka PF 6-10 220 18 Congo Late first to early second
     Ibaka got some hype this summer at an Adidas camp and international scouts will follow… more
     29 Davon Jefferson SF 6-8 215 21 USC Late first to early second
     Jefferson is an intriguing prospect who is starting to live up to the hype he’s… more
     30 Andrew Ogilvy C 6-10 250 19 Vanderbilt Late first to early second
     An intriguing prospect because of skill and toughness, but his lack of athleticism and ideal… more
     31 Eric Maynor PG 6-2 165 20 VA Commonwealth Late first to early second
     32 Tyler Hansbrough PF 6-9 225 22 North Carolina Late first to early second
     33 Austin Daye SF 6-10 190 19 Gonzaga Late first to early second
     34 Earl Clark SF 6-9 200 19 Louisville Late first to early second
     35 Brandon Rush SG 6-7 205 22 Kansas Late first to early second
    36 Blake Griffin PF 6-10 240 18 Oklahoma Late first to early second
     37 Kyle Singler SF 6-9 210 19 Duke Late first to early second
     38 Ryan Anderson PF 6-10 225 19 California Late first to early second
     39 Wayne Ellington SG 6-5 175 20 North Carolina Late first to early second
     40 Scottie Reynolds PG 6-2 195 20 Villanova Late first to early second
     41 Nikola Pekovic C 6-11 245 21 Serbia Late first to early second
     42 Sherron Collins PG 5-11 200 20 Kansas Late first to early second
     43 Victor Claver SF 6-11 217 19 Spain Late first to early second
     44 Rudy Mbemba PG 6-0 186 20 Sweden Late first to early second
     45 Courtney Lee SG 6-5 200 22 Western Kentucky Late first to early second
     46 Richard Hendrix PF 6-8 260 21 Alabama Late first to early second
     47 Nathan Jawai C 6-10 270 21 Australia Late first to early second
     48 Malik Hairston SG 6-6 200 20 Oregon Late first to early second
     49 Tyler Smith SF 6-7 210 21 Tennessee Late first to early second
     50 Omri Casspi SF 6-7 206 19 Israel Late first to early second
     51 Nick Calathes PG 6-5 185 18 Florida Late first to early second
     52 Gerald Henderson SG 6-5 205 20 Duke Late first to early second
     53 Paul Harris SG 6-4 220 21 Syracuse Late first to early second
     54 Greivis Vasquez SG 6-5 195 20 Maryland Late first to early second
     55 Josh Heytvelt PF 6-11 235 21 Gonzaga Late first to early second
     56 Tyrese Rice PG 6-1 190 20 Boston College Late first to early second
     57 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute SF 6-7 215 21 UCLA Late first to early second
     58 Bill Walker SF 6-6 225 20 Kansas State Late first to early second
     59 Taj Gibson PF 6-9 210 22 USC Second round to undrafted
     60 Raymar Morgan SF 6-7 220 19 Michigan State Second round to undrafted
     61 Patrick Patterson PF 6-8 245 18 Kentucky Second round to undrafted
     62 Robin Lopez C 7-0 245 19 Stanford Second round to undrafted
     63 Joey Dorsey PF 6-9 260 22 Memphis Second round to undrafted
     64 Jason Thompson C 6-11 250 21 Rider Second round to undrafted
     65 James Anderson SG 6-6 195 18 Oklahoma State Second round to undrafted
     66 Daniel Hackett PG 6-5 205 20 USC Second round to undrafted
     67 Jamont Gordon SG 6-4 225 20 Mississippi St. Second round to undrafted
     68 Matt Bouldin PG 6-5 210 19 Gonzaga Second round to undrafted
     69 Jeremy Pargo PG 6-2 220 21 Gonzaga Second round to undrafted
     70 Artem Zabelin C 7-2 200 19 Russia Second round to undrafted
     71 Brandon Costner PF 6-9 230 20 NC State Second round to undrafted
     72 Gani Lawal PF 6-9 220 18 Georgia Tech Second round to undrafted
     73 Nemanja Aleksandrov F 6-10 225 20 Serbia Second round to undrafted
     74 Alexy Shved SF 6-7 170 19 Russia Second round to undrafted
     75 A.J. Price PG 6-2 190 21 Connecticut Second round to undrafted
     76 James Harden SG 6-5 210 18 Arizona State Second round to undrafted
     77 Goran Dragic PG 6-4 180 21 Slovenia Second round to undrafted.
     78 Jordan Hill PF 6-11 215 20 Arizona Second round to undrafted
     79 Mario Chalmers PG 6-2 170 21 Kansas Second round to undrafted
     80 Dominic James PG 6-0 175 21 Marquette Second round to undrafted
     81 Anthony Randolph SF 6-10 210 18 LSU Second round to undrafted
     82 Anton Ponkrashov PG 6-8 214 21 Russia Second round to undrafted
     83 Johnny Flynn PG 6-0 175 18 Syracuse Second round to undrafted
     84 Terence Williams SG 6-6 210 20 Louisville Second round to undrafted
     85 D.J. White PF 6-9 240 21 Indiana Second round to undrafted
     86 Stanley Robinson SF 6-9 215 19 Connecticut Second round to undrafted
     87 Semih Erden C 7-1 240 21 Turkey Second round to undrafted
     88 Kyle Weaver SG 6-6 185 21 Washington State Second round to undrafted
     89 Nolan Smith SG 6-4 185 19 Duke Second round to undrafted
     90 Marcelus Kemp SG 6-5 210 23 Nevada Second round to undrafted
     91 Chris Lofton SG 6-2 197 21 Tennessee Second round to undrafted
     92 Milenko Tepic SG 6-8 200 20 Serbia Second round to undrafted
     93 Bo McCalebb PG 6-0 180 22 New Orleans Second round to undrafted
     94 Corey Fisher PG 6-1 205 19 Villanova Second round to undrafted
     95 Josh Shipp SG 6-5 207 21 UCLA Second round to undrafted.
     96 Jawann McClellan SG 6-5 225 22 Arizona Second round to undrafted
     97 Robert Dozier SF 6-9 215 22 Memphis Second round to undrafted
     98 Lance Thomas PF 6-8 200 19 Duke Second round to undrafted
     99 Mantas Kalnietis PG 6-5 194 21 Lithuania Second round to undrafted
     100 Drew Neitzel PG 6-0 180 22 Michigan State Second round to undrafted

    It shouldn’t be surprising that the people who bought into the Biyombo stupidity would also be all over Patric Young. The guy has no offensive game and has yet to show an ability to play for an extended time without getting in foul trouble, but somehow he gets pegged as having lottery potential. 

    Rodney Williams at #42? Really? How long does a guy have to be in college before people actually start considering what a player has done in college?

    But hey, Chad was all over Kenneth Faried this past year for playing hard and rebounding in the Ohio Valley. He must have seen Minnesota while slurping Williams and actually caught the best NBA prospect at Minnesota in Trevor Mbakwe. He is a bigger, stronger, and more athletic Faried, so if Faried finished was #17 then Mbakwe must be pretty high. Oh look, #74… behind Fab Melo. Wonderful.

    If Tony Mitchell plays in the Sun Belt as a highly sought after Big Twelve recruit and starts beating up overmatched opponents, I think the stupid are going to be all over him.

    By next June, I have five names who will be in the top 100:

    C.J. Wilcox, Washington

    Kevin Foster, Santa Clara

    Jae Crowder, Marquette

    Michael Glover, Iona

    Bernard James, Florida State – Hey, he is younger than Ngombo! Plus, he has an NBA-ready body to go with a Taj Gibson game.

     

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    He should have learned by now that he shouldn’t overhype the kids coming out of high school. John Riek playing against overmatched prep school kids was 9th in 2008. In 2012, he is 151st. He has ten of his top twenty being incoming freshman, and I guarantee that come June 2012 there will not be anything close to ten freshmen going in the top twenty. I feel completely comfortable writing that because it has never before happened before, and when 2011 was supposed to be "the year of the freshman" it ended up with six freshmen actually being drafted (seven if you count Kanter) and all of three (four with Kanter) in the lottery.

    http://www.121s.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=&m=281288

    1 Michael Beasley PF 6-9 235 18 Kansas State Top 5
     A big-time talent who will go very high as long as he behaves himself at… more
     2 Derrick Rose PG 6-4 195 19 Memphis Top 5
     The best pure point guard in the draft draws some comparisons to Deron Williams. However,… more
     3 Eric Gordon SG 6-5 205 19 Indiana Top 5
     One of the most gifted prospects from the high school class of 2007. He can… more
     4 O.J. Mayo SG 6-4 195 20 USC Top 5
     Mayo is off to a solid start for USC, but scouts are still trying to… more
     5 DeAndre Jordan C 7-0 240 19 Texas A&M Top 10
     On talent, he’s got the makings of a top-five pick. But scouts are concerned enough… more
     6 Chase Budinger SG 6-7 190 19 Arizona Top 10
     Budinger had a great freshman season at Arizona and has quickly asserted himself as the… more
     7 Darrell Arthur PF 6-10 215 20 Kansas Top 10
     Shocked just about everyone coming out of the gate and contributing to a very talented… more
     8 Brook Lopez C 7-0 245 19 Stanford Lottery
     Brook’s stellar play toward the end of his freshman season turned a lot of NBA… more
    9 John Riek C 7-2 230 18 Prep School Lottery
     There is a lot of controversy over Riek, but the consensus from NBA scouts and… more
     10 D.J. Augustin PG 5-11 180 20 Texas Lottery
     Augustin was one of the two or three best freshmen point guards in the country… more
     11 Ty Lawson PG 6-0 190 20 North Carolina Lottery
     Lawson didn’t put up the best numbers, but some scouts felt he had the most… more
     12 Donte Greene SF 6-8 215 19 Syracuse Lottery
     Versatile forward is off to a hot start for Syracuse. While he still needs to… more
     13 Kosta Koufos C 7-1 250 18 Ohio State Lottery
     His stock skyrocketed this summer after he dominated the 18-and-under European Championships. After a strong… more
     14 Marreese Speights C 6-10 250 19 Florida Lottery
     With Al Horford and Joakim Noah in the NBA, a lot is falling on Speight’s… more
     15 Nicolas Batum SF 6-8 210 19 France Lottery to mid first round
     A few international scouts believe he’s the best prospect outside the United States. His dominance… more
     16 Kevin Love C 6-9 255 19 UCLA Lottery to mid first round
     Love’s game is old-school with a flair for the spectacular. He has enough talent to… more
     17 DeVon Hardin C 6-11 235 21 California Lottery to mid first round
     Hardin was great in draft workouts and is off to a solid senior season. However,… more
     18 Roy Hibbert C 7-2 265 21 Georgetown Lottery to mid first round
     He’s been all over the boards with scouts over the past few years. They love… more
     19 Danilo Gallinari SF 6-9 212 19 Italy Lottery to mid first round
     Many in Italy feel he’s a better long-term prospect than Andrea Bargnani. Right now his… more
     20 J. J. Hickson PF 6-9 240 19 NC State Lottery to mid first round
     A rising young player who, on paper, looks like a prospect. If he can dominate… more
     21 Trent Plaisted C 6-11 245 21 BYU Mid to late first round
     After a stellar freshman season and a so-so sophomore campaign, he’s really come on as… more
     22 Jerryd Bayless PG 6-3 190 19 Arizona Mid to late first round
     Arizona is moving him to the point this season which means he’ll have to share… more
     23 Darren Collison PG 6-1 165 20 UCLA Mid to late first round
     Scouts love his speed and his floor leadership. As the NBA turns more up-tempo, Collison’s… more
     24 Ante Tomic C 7-2 237 20 Croatia Mid to late first round
     Tomic is big-time prospect. He has a rare combination of size, skill and athletic ability…. more
     25 Chris Douglas-Roberts SG 6-6 195 20 Memphis Late first to early second
     Douglas-Roberts is one of the more under-rated players in the country. He should really benefit… more
     26 JaVale McGee C 7-0 237 19 Nevada Late first to early second
     Scouts are starting to buzz on McGee. He’s still a year or two away from… more
     27 Hasheem Thabeet C 7-3 265 20 Connecticut Late first to early second
     Thabeet was pegged early as a potential late lottery sleeper. His size, athleticism and growing… more
     28 Serge Ibaka PF 6-10 220 18 Congo Late first to early second
     Ibaka got some hype this summer at an Adidas camp and international scouts will follow… more
     29 Davon Jefferson SF 6-8 215 21 USC Late first to early second
     Jefferson is an intriguing prospect who is starting to live up to the hype he’s… more
     30 Andrew Ogilvy C 6-10 250 19 Vanderbilt Late first to early second
     An intriguing prospect because of skill and toughness, but his lack of athleticism and ideal… more
     31 Eric Maynor PG 6-2 165 20 VA Commonwealth Late first to early second
     32 Tyler Hansbrough PF 6-9 225 22 North Carolina Late first to early second
     33 Austin Daye SF 6-10 190 19 Gonzaga Late first to early second
     34 Earl Clark SF 6-9 200 19 Louisville Late first to early second
     35 Brandon Rush SG 6-7 205 22 Kansas Late first to early second
    36 Blake Griffin PF 6-10 240 18 Oklahoma Late first to early second
     37 Kyle Singler SF 6-9 210 19 Duke Late first to early second
     38 Ryan Anderson PF 6-10 225 19 California Late first to early second
     39 Wayne Ellington SG 6-5 175 20 North Carolina Late first to early second
     40 Scottie Reynolds PG 6-2 195 20 Villanova Late first to early second
     41 Nikola Pekovic C 6-11 245 21 Serbia Late first to early second
     42 Sherron Collins PG 5-11 200 20 Kansas Late first to early second
     43 Victor Claver SF 6-11 217 19 Spain Late first to early second
     44 Rudy Mbemba PG 6-0 186 20 Sweden Late first to early second
     45 Courtney Lee SG 6-5 200 22 Western Kentucky Late first to early second
     46 Richard Hendrix PF 6-8 260 21 Alabama Late first to early second
     47 Nathan Jawai C 6-10 270 21 Australia Late first to early second
     48 Malik Hairston SG 6-6 200 20 Oregon Late first to early second
     49 Tyler Smith SF 6-7 210 21 Tennessee Late first to early second
     50 Omri Casspi SF 6-7 206 19 Israel Late first to early second
     51 Nick Calathes PG 6-5 185 18 Florida Late first to early second
     52 Gerald Henderson SG 6-5 205 20 Duke Late first to early second
     53 Paul Harris SG 6-4 220 21 Syracuse Late first to early second
     54 Greivis Vasquez SG 6-5 195 20 Maryland Late first to early second
     55 Josh Heytvelt PF 6-11 235 21 Gonzaga Late first to early second
     56 Tyrese Rice PG 6-1 190 20 Boston College Late first to early second
     57 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute SF 6-7 215 21 UCLA Late first to early second
     58 Bill Walker SF 6-6 225 20 Kansas State Late first to early second
     59 Taj Gibson PF 6-9 210 22 USC Second round to undrafted
     60 Raymar Morgan SF 6-7 220 19 Michigan State Second round to undrafted
     61 Patrick Patterson PF 6-8 245 18 Kentucky Second round to undrafted
     62 Robin Lopez C 7-0 245 19 Stanford Second round to undrafted
     63 Joey Dorsey PF 6-9 260 22 Memphis Second round to undrafted
     64 Jason Thompson C 6-11 250 21 Rider Second round to undrafted
     65 James Anderson SG 6-6 195 18 Oklahoma State Second round to undrafted
     66 Daniel Hackett PG 6-5 205 20 USC Second round to undrafted
     67 Jamont Gordon SG 6-4 225 20 Mississippi St. Second round to undrafted
     68 Matt Bouldin PG 6-5 210 19 Gonzaga Second round to undrafted
     69 Jeremy Pargo PG 6-2 220 21 Gonzaga Second round to undrafted
     70 Artem Zabelin C 7-2 200 19 Russia Second round to undrafted
     71 Brandon Costner PF 6-9 230 20 NC State Second round to undrafted
     72 Gani Lawal PF 6-9 220 18 Georgia Tech Second round to undrafted
     73 Nemanja Aleksandrov F 6-10 225 20 Serbia Second round to undrafted
     74 Alexy Shved SF 6-7 170 19 Russia Second round to undrafted
     75 A.J. Price PG 6-2 190 21 Connecticut Second round to undrafted
     76 James Harden SG 6-5 210 18 Arizona State Second round to undrafted
     77 Goran Dragic PG 6-4 180 21 Slovenia Second round to undrafted.
     78 Jordan Hill PF 6-11 215 20 Arizona Second round to undrafted
     79 Mario Chalmers PG 6-2 170 21 Kansas Second round to undrafted
     80 Dominic James PG 6-0 175 21 Marquette Second round to undrafted
     81 Anthony Randolph SF 6-10 210 18 LSU Second round to undrafted
     82 Anton Ponkrashov PG 6-8 214 21 Russia Second round to undrafted
     83 Johnny Flynn PG 6-0 175 18 Syracuse Second round to undrafted
     84 Terence Williams SG 6-6 210 20 Louisville Second round to undrafted
     85 D.J. White PF 6-9 240 21 Indiana Second round to undrafted
     86 Stanley Robinson SF 6-9 215 19 Connecticut Second round to undrafted
     87 Semih Erden C 7-1 240 21 Turkey Second round to undrafted
     88 Kyle Weaver SG 6-6 185 21 Washington State Second round to undrafted
     89 Nolan Smith SG 6-4 185 19 Duke Second round to undrafted
     90 Marcelus Kemp SG 6-5 210 23 Nevada Second round to undrafted
     91 Chris Lofton SG 6-2 197 21 Tennessee Second round to undrafted
     92 Milenko Tepic SG 6-8 200 20 Serbia Second round to undrafted
     93 Bo McCalebb PG 6-0 180 22 New Orleans Second round to undrafted
     94 Corey Fisher PG 6-1 205 19 Villanova Second round to undrafted
     95 Josh Shipp SG 6-5 207 21 UCLA Second round to undrafted.
     96 Jawann McClellan SG 6-5 225 22 Arizona Second round to undrafted
     97 Robert Dozier SF 6-9 215 22 Memphis Second round to undrafted
     98 Lance Thomas PF 6-8 200 19 Duke Second round to undrafted
     99 Mantas Kalnietis PG 6-5 194 21 Lithuania Second round to undrafted
     100 Drew Neitzel PG 6-0 180 22 Michigan State Second round to undrafted

    It shouldn’t be surprising that the people who bought into the Biyombo stupidity would also be all over Patric Young. The guy has no offensive game and has yet to show an ability to play for an extended time without getting in foul trouble, but somehow he gets pegged as having lottery potential. 

    Rodney Williams at #42? Really? How long does a guy have to be in college before people actually start considering what a player has done in college?

    But hey, Chad was all over Kenneth Faried this past year for playing hard and rebounding in the Ohio Valley. He must have seen Minnesota while slurping Williams and actually caught the best NBA prospect at Minnesota in Trevor Mbakwe. He is a bigger, stronger, and more athletic Faried, so if Faried finished was #17 then Mbakwe must be pretty high. Oh look, #74… behind Fab Melo. Wonderful.

    If Tony Mitchell plays in the Sun Belt as a highly sought after Big Twelve recruit and starts beating up overmatched opponents, I think the stupid are going to be all over him.

    By next June, I have five names who will be in the top 100:

    C.J. Wilcox, Washington

    Kevin Foster, Santa Clara

    Jae Crowder, Marquette

    Michael Glover, Iona

    Bernard James, Florida State – Hey, he is younger than Ngombo! Plus, he has an NBA-ready body to go with a Taj Gibson game.

     

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  • #556162
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    I 100% agree with you on Crowder, he was one of the most underrated guys in the country last year and has a real nice skill set for a 3/4. Kind of plays like former Marquette star Lazar Hayward but with a little more athleticism. He should definitely be drafted, but probably as a second rounder.

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    providencefriars1
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    I 100% agree with you on Crowder, he was one of the most underrated guys in the country last year and has a real nice skill set for a 3/4. Kind of plays like former Marquette star Lazar Hayward but with a little more athleticism. He should definitely be drafted, but probably as a second rounder.

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  • #556165
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    Juco guys rarely get appreciated for what they do in their first year. Both Ratliffe and Crowder were really good, but have no buzz. Maybe Nurideen Lindsay will be the exception.

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    Juco guys rarely get appreciated for what they do in their first year. Both Ratliffe and Crowder were really good, but have no buzz. Maybe Nurideen Lindsay will be the exception.

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  • #556172
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    Marquette gets real lucky with JUCO guys. Jimmy Butler, Crowder, and DJO were all JUCO.

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    providencefriars1
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    Marquette gets real lucky with JUCO guys. Jimmy Butler, Crowder, and DJO were all JUCO.

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  • #556173
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    I am a little surprised that Darius Miller from Kentucky isn’t in the top 150.  His three point shooting has improved greatly and he is a solid defender. Has a sweet turnaround shot that he consistently makes in the 7-9 ft range. 

    He came on strong during the end of the regular season, played great in the SEC tournament and played alright in the NCAA tourney. The only thing that will hurt him this year is being overlooked with the freshman coming in + Jones and Lamb, which may explain why he isn’t in the top 150 for the 2012 list.  Regardless, I think he will have a great senior year.

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    I am a little surprised that Darius Miller from Kentucky isn’t in the top 150.  His three point shooting has improved greatly and he is a solid defender. Has a sweet turnaround shot that he consistently makes in the 7-9 ft range. 

    He came on strong during the end of the regular season, played great in the SEC tournament and played alright in the NCAA tourney. The only thing that will hurt him this year is being overlooked with the freshman coming in + Jones and Lamb, which may explain why he isn’t in the top 150 for the 2012 list.  Regardless, I think he will have a great senior year.

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     WTF….I just realized they have Durand Scott at like 138. This gu ywas listed as 2012 lottery pick earlier this year. I do agree though that Plumlee is FAR too high. Never really saw the potential there. Overrated as ill get.

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    • #556328
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      Durand Scott has good potential, I really like him, but we will have to see how he develops under his new coach.

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      Durand Scott has good potential, I really like him, but we will have to see how he develops under his new coach.

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    iguapops420
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     WTF….I just realized they have Durand Scott at like 138. This gu ywas listed as 2012 lottery pick earlier this year. I do agree though that Plumlee is FAR too high. Never really saw the potential there. Overrated as ill get.

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  • #556338
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    Andre Dawkins is not in the top 150?  This guy played really well for Duke late in the season and he is very young.  IMO, 2 guys that should transfer are Dawkins and McDonald from UNC.  They will be odd-man out with the arrival of Rivers and Hairston.  If Clemson has a good year, Jennings will move up significantly.  He is really skilled, but doesnt have a killer mentality yet.

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  • #556279
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    Andre Dawkins is not in the top 150?  This guy played really well for Duke late in the season and he is very young.  IMO, 2 guys that should transfer are Dawkins and McDonald from UNC.  They will be odd-man out with the arrival of Rivers and Hairston.  If Clemson has a good year, Jennings will move up significantly.  He is really skilled, but doesnt have a killer mentality yet.

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