[ag-pennypackerParticipant]

Could someone post Chad Ford’s tourny watch for NBA prospects?

[TyroberParticipant]

 I believe this is what you wanted…

The Southeast Region is the weakest region in the NCAA Tournament as far as NBA draft prospects.

 

 

 

I count only one potential lottery pick and just one surefire first-round pick in the entire group. It doesn’t mean it won’t produce the NCAA champ. But as far as NBA scouts are concerned, if they’re going to skip a region, this would be the one to skip.

 

 

1. Jimmer Fredette, PG, BYU Cougars

 

 

The Good: Fredette is a scoring machine who can fill it up from anywhere on the floor. He has crazy range on his 3-point shot and also is adept at finishing around the basket. He’s tough and he’s a winner. He’s unafraid to put his team on his back. When he’s double- and triple-teamed, he shows that he can be a willing passer as well.

 

 

The Bad: He’s not an explosive athlete. He’s not a stiff, but he’s not in the same league with the ultra-quick point guards the draft has produced the past few years. He’s also undersized if he projects as a 2 in the pros. His defense is as bad as his offense is good.

 

 

The Upside: There’s no player in the draft who can divide NBA scouts the way Fredette does. Some see his toughness, shooting ability and basketball IQ and are convinced he’ll find a way to be a serious NBA player — either a point guard like Steve Nash or a big-time shooter like Ben Gordon or Stephen Curry. Others see an undersized 2-guard who lacks lateral quickness and doesn’t have a position. They scream Adam Morrison at worst, Eddie House at best. Fredette has been awesome on the big stage in the past. If he can take an undermanned BYU team deep, he’s probably a lottery pick.

 

 

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2. Patric Young, PF/C, Florida Gators

 

 

The Good: Young has the body of an NBA All-Star. He’s a tough, physical player who can dominate the paint as a rebounder and shot blocker.

 

 

The Bad: He’s been one of the least effective offensive players in the country. He’s averaging just 3.3 ppg in 18 mpg.

 

 

The Upside: How can a player averaging 3.3 ppg be considered a first-round pick? NBA scouts are convinced Young has the potential to be a dominant defensive big man whether he gets his offensive game going or not (think Ben Wallace). His body is NBA-ready, as is his defense. If he shows he’s a game-changer on the defensive end the next few weeks, the lottery is not out of the question for him.

 

 

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3. Tyler Honeycutt, F, UCLA Bruins

 

 

The Good: Honeycutt isn’t flashy, but he’s the sort of player who is a jack of all trades. He can be a solid shooter, decent rebounder, handles the ball well, sees the floor and has a nice basketball IQ.

 

 

The Bad: Honeycutt doesn’t really stand out in any one area. He’s not a great athlete, has struggled with his shooting at times this season and his numbers, across the board, have been pretty pedestrian.

 

 

The Upside: There were high hopes for Honeycutt coming into the season, and he’s shown flashes of being an NBA prospect. But for the most part, he’s been a disappointment. If NBA GMs take any solace, it’s in the fact that UCLA prospects in Ben Howland’s system come out the other side pretty NBA-ready. Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love, Darren Collison and Jrue Holiday all have been better in the pros than their college stats indicated they would be.

 

 

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4. Jon Leuer, PF, Wisconsin Badgers

 

 

The Good: The big man has been one of the most efficient players in college this season. He’s an excellent shooter for a big man who can stretch defenses all the way to the 3-point line. He’s also a pretty good ball handler for a big and can create his own shot off the dribble.

 

 

The Bad: Leuer isn’t a great athlete. He doesn’t have great strength for an NBA 4. And, to top it off, he’s not a great rebounder for a player his size.

 

 

The Upside: There are a number of NBA teams who need stretch 4s in their offensive schemes, and as far as big-men shooters go, Leuer is one of the best in the draft. Despite playing in the Big Ten, Wisconsin always goes a bit under-scouted. Leuer and teammateJordan Taylor are probably a bit underrated right now. A big tournament will change that.

 

 

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5. Elias Harris, F, Gonzaga Bulldogs

 

 

The Good: The versatile forward can be an explosive scorer both inside and out. He runs the floor well, can create his own shot and can be a good rebounder.

 

 

The Bad: He’s really struggled this season. His numbers are down across the board. He will have to shake the label of a tweener.

 

 

The Upside: Had Harris declared for the draft last season, he likely would’ve been a mid-first-round pick. But he’s having a terrible season. Scouts are scratching their heads a bit — especially because Harris is already 21 years old. A great tournament could re-establish him as a legit first-rounder, but it’s going to take a lot of work.

 

 

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Sleeper: Shelvin Mack, G, Butler Bulldogs

 

 

The Good: Mack is a big-time shooter with deep range on his jump shot. He’s tough, physical and built like a tank. Despite his size, he’s deceptively quick and a good floor leader.

 

 

The Bad: He’s struggled a bit with his jump shot this season. Scouts see him as a tweener. Does he have the requisite vision to be a point guard in the pros? If not, he’s undersized.

 

 

The Upside: Mack helped his stock quite a bit last season playing alongside Gordon Hayward. He’s struggled to make big improvements over his sophomore season, however. Another big tournament from Mack and Butler could put him back on the first-round bubble.

 

 

 

 

[ag-pennypackerParticipant]

post the rest of the regions?

[OhCanada-Participant]

I eally like the fact hes giving some light to Young but I think he needs to go back to school for another year and come out next year. Elias Harris is gonna go HAM in the tourney.

[TyroberParticipant]

 Post the links to what you want

[ag-pennypackerParticipant]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=6215301&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fblog%3fname%3dnba_draft%26id%3d6215301

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=6219681&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fblog%3fname%3dnba_draft%26id%3d6219681

 

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=6192953&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fblog%3fname%3dnba_draft%26id%3d6192953

 

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

"Others see an undersized 2-guard who lacks lateral quickness and doesn’t have a position. They scream Adam Morrison at worst, Eddie House at best. Fredette has been awesome on the big stage in the past. If he can take an undermanned BYU team deep, he’s probably a lottery pick."

If a person chooses to ignore that Fredette has run the point and well without any sorts of problems for three years and is convinced he is just a shooter, then put his college resume up against J.J. Redick and the only difference then becomes Redick’s DUI. From a pure shooting perspective, there is no difference. Eddie House can’t dribble. Adam Morrison was a mid-range shooter in an inferior conference who got to the NBA and showed no interest in getting better. Even now, he is 26 years old. If he wanted to work, he could be in the NBDL trying to make himself better. He is choosing to not play and not work. 

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

He seems real HIGH on Patrick Young, and the "Ben Wallace" comparisons gets thrown out too often it seems. Young looks like Brandon Bass to me.

I also like what he said about Elias Harris, he is a player that has gone off the radar, but he does have 1st round ability. I doubt he gets back in the 1st round, just because he didn’t dominate what I consider "weak" competition. Could turn out to be a better pro than college player, he has NBA athletecism.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Patric Young is young big kid who clearly was not used to playing against guys as big and as athletic as him. That is not abnormal for a freshman, but why some of these analysts choose to ignore the fouling, the turnovers, and the lack of offensive skills when discussing his potential is odd. He has a lot of work to do in order to be a good college big, let alone an NBA player. At least in a recent interview, Young seems to be more in tune with the reality of where he is at as a player than Ford or Thorpe.

Elias Harris is a 6′ 6" power forward. In as much as people want to praise his athleticism, the way he plays isn’t going to translate. Quincy Pondexter was a 6′ 6" power forward with great athleticism, but it hasn’t really helped him in New Orleans.

[JNixonParticipant]

Yeah I don’t think Young is as NBA ready on D as scouts think. He’s VERY foul prone and wild when I watch him play. He’s not a talent offensively, and even though he’s got great size, strength and athleticism, I don’t think he should be thinking about the NBA until he’s a Jr or likely a Sr. He’s too wild and raw right now.

[mizzle17Participant]

Chad Ford said on Bill Simmons podcast the SE region was quite weak for NBA draft prospects, as evidenced by having Jon Leuer #4. That being said, people are really going to have to take Jimmer seriously as an NBA prospect. He’s not surrounded by much talent and has still produced at a prolific rate. I’m not saying he’s going to be an all-star, but he’s going to be an important player for an NBA team.

[The lake show2]

I can understand Morrision not going to the NBDL its a pride thing. How often do you see vets going to the NBDL after injury or someone like Rip Hamilton saying send me there so i can play since you didn’t play me in games. playing in the NBDL wouldnt make Morrision better just like him dominating in summer leauge didnt make him better. The NBA game seems to just be to fast for him to play alot and better players are in front of him. But he’s doing something right in practice because he still sticks in the NBA.

 

I still think Young isn’t ready but i wouldnt blame him if he went in the draft since we is a lock to go first round. He can learn all he needs to learn in practice against better comp and better coach’s but he will spend alot of time in the NBDL. I think the longer he stays in the college the more the NBA teams will realize he isn’t that good

[JNixonParticipant]

How is Patric Young a lock to go in the 1st round?

[The lake show2]

Every where i have read scouts love his potential and say he’s a first rounder or lotto because of his potential and body. Personally i would’t pick him and im not impressed with him at all

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