Carolina Duke Game, anybody learn anything?
First off, any questions about Ty Lawson staying/leaving were answered, i think he is officially gone. Just wanted to know what other peoples thoughts on hte game were, my biggest surprise was the fact that Nobody on Carolina really played all that well except Lawson and they still handily beat Duke at Cameron. My other concern was my boy Danny Green, who i made a forum specifically to vouch for, looked like he was having some trouble on D. And if Gerald Henderson is so good, how can he dissapear like that at home under pressure.
Psycho T, say what you want about him but 4-0 on coach K court!
MARK MADSEN COULDN'T DO THAT
Until Duke start bringing in more athletic players they will continue to lose big games at home and also continue their streak of not making it to the Final Four. With the continuation of the type of players that Duke are recruiting they will be a decent team but they will not win anything. Guys like Greg Paulus, John Scheyer, Kyle Singler, and David Mcclure are not gifted players. They rely too much on outside shots and trying to outsmart their opponents. Those type of guys also lack the athleticism that is needed to win big time games. Last night Singler got hung on a dunk attempt, lol. There's no way a 6'8 guy should be getting hung on a dunk attempt on any level. Coach K needs to step his recruiting up in a hurry; and instead of bringing in blue-collar kids, bring in talented kids.
What surprised me is how good Lawson is.
I don't know how much you're learning about Ty Lawson NBA wise...All that I'm seeing is that he is unbelievably fast and he can make layups. At 5 "10 with an average, if that jumpshot and nothing special about his court vision. I personally am not very excited about him at the NBA level, Sure he will land somewhere in the first round but I don't see him as anything more than a backup, change the pace of the game novelty in the NBA. I hope I'm wrong because I really like him, but I just don't see it. totally off the subject but just a response to a post I read yesterday, I think Steph Curry has a lot more ability as a PG than people are giving him credit for and is going to be one of the few players in this draft that is actually going to be a PLAYER in the league. He obviously has worked to improve his handle a lot ( his left hand in & out is nasty) he's never off balance, and in my opinion he does have great court vision and he has to face defenses that because of his lack of teammates nobody else in the Country has to deal with. So just like you say about Hansbrough, who I feel will never see any significant minutes unless he plays for the Bobcats we'll see about Curry.
Duke has almost no good athletes on their team with the exception of smith,henderson and williams. Paulus is someone I never ever understood the hype about. He looks real slow 4 a guard on tv and he always get beat off the dribble by a players with decent to more than decent first steps and athleticism. He would be a defensive NIGHTMARE in the NBA. He would be giving up points left and right. The same goes for singler. He isnt a good athlete either and even though he produces pretty well in college, he is not going to be a good player either in the league because of his slow feet (he reminds me alot of adam morrison). He may make it as a three point specialist, but that will probably be it if he makes it. He is being put in the lottery on a few mock drafts, and he is simply not that good. The players from UNC really stayed neutral and didnt no anything out of the ordinary from their standards. Ty Lawson, the one guy that did kinda stand out, will be a solid backup pg in my opinion because he wont be able to outrun players the way he is in college but he is a good playmaker and is not really that turnover prone as someone that goes at the speed he does all the time (he reminds me of sebastian telfair-the 07 08 version).
ty lawson is 6'0 legit with shoes and that's what they list your height as....he's the best on the break in college, except for maybe teague..he's work on his jump shot as they said last night during the game he's shooting 48 percent from three so i think he may have just moved up to the middle of the draft.
I'm just talking about in college, not the NBA man.
When I look around the NBA and evaluate all of the pgs I definitely think Ty Lawson can be a solid pg in the NBA. Ty Lawson has the extra gear/speed that you simply can't teach. 9/10 pgs in the league do not possess the kind of speed that Lawson has. He has the ability to blow past defenders and is almost impossible to pressure. His jumpshot is improving and will continue to improve when he's in the NBA. His size is one of his few weaknesses; at 6'0 he's below typical NBA standards. But if guys like D.J. Augustine can start at 5'9 as a rookie and contribute, Ty Lawson definitely can also. He's much more faster and explosive and more of a playmaker than Augustine. Chris Paul has proven that open court speed does translate to the NBA and he gets many of his assists pushing the ball in the open court. If Lawson continues to work on his jumpshot and strength, the sky is the limit for him in the NBA.
Anybody else catch the commercial showing all the UNC and Duke players from the past. For Duke I think they showed Laettner, Steve Wojokowski, Battier, and Elton Brand comapred to the tarheels of MJ, James Worthy, Jerry Stackhouse, and Rasheed Wallace. I think it is true to say that Duke just does not produce players at the next level. Coach K recruits good college palyers but it seems that there road stops right after there ssenior season.
The Duek section started with Laettner, who was drafted third, yes third, and played for six different teams in thirteen years before ending his career with drug violations and a spot on the bench for the Heat. Steve Wojokowski or wojo as most dukies probably call him, did not play in the NBA, and is now the Coach for Dukes "big men" consisting of Kyle Singler (catch the dunk where he got hung?) Zoubek(5ppg and 4reb at 7'1!) who was no match for Deon Thompson, and Lance Thomas, an underachiever whose upside has yet to be explored. Battier is having a decent career playing the role as defensive stopper for the Houston Rockets, and Elton Brand whose career as of late has been plagued by injury, but before was beast with two all star appearances(02 and 06).
The north carolina part started with MJ(do i dare start?) then to "Big Game" James Worthy(No. 1 pick, 3 time NBA Champion, & time allstar, 50 greatest players of all time list). Then to the mroe recent players Jerry Stackhouse and Rasheed Wallace. Jerry was drafted third overall and is a two time all star. Rasheed Wallace is still one of the premier post players in the league who went fourth and won the championship and a two time all star.
It is evident that North Carolina has immensely more talent than Duke and probably always will. Duke will never have the talent or athleticism to compete with North Carolina or produce the NBA talent Carolina does on a consistent basis.
there goin down in chappel hill too, and they have a tougher remaining schedule than carolina in the acc. No way to catch em now, especially once they get beast freshman Tyler Zeller back, making them not only the best team in the country down that Uconn lost Dyson but the team with the most Ty's