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Calling Out CodySLC! Williams and Rose Matchup

I said "Who wants to bet right now Rose torches Williams. Ill bet all my points lol.".

He ignorantly and defiantly and stubbornly and crazily responded with this bold outrageous comment!!! "I bet not. I bet Will breaks his Ankles (litteraly) and he will be out of the rest of the year haha jk. And the Bulls will lose the game."

WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON AND WHY, IM TALLYING UP VOTES!!!


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I'd say Rose has a good game

I'd say Rose has a good game as well as DWill. I don't know about completely torching him but then again, the Jazz have no interior defense so DRose might get in the paint a couple of times.

Should be a good game.

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Its not that Jefferson is a

Its not that Jefferson is a bad interior defender he just lacks a great second effort to finish off defenive plays.

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Williams

Williams has had the advantage over the last few seasons. I know Rose has improved a lot and Williams has that messed up wrist (not trying to make excuses here), but I'm gonna give this one to the man with the home-court advantage.

How many times to you think Boozer shouts "AND ONE!" or "GET IN THERE, BALL!"? I'm gonna say seven.

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Lol I have to watch my

Lol I have to watch my Raptors lose to San Antonio so I dont even know. Keep a tally on that thou, Ill say 7 is a good number.

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Im gonna say d will has the

Im gonna say d will has the better game but chicago gets the w. I think boozer, korver and brewer will try to step up against former team and rose wont have to carry as much of the load. but like ohcanada i will be watching the spurs show the raptors how to play basketball lol.

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lol i just got called out

lol i just got called out damn... By the way Jefferson averaging about 2 blocks a game

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Looks like i got more votes

Looks like i got more votes Canada sorry bro hahaha

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Yeah

2 blocks, but his defense has been below average. Like OhCanada mentioned, he lacks any kind of quality second effort and is flat-footed when attempting to defend more mobile bigs. His bulk doesn't help him when he gives up too much initial position down-low, and he tends to bite on pump fakes.

His rebounding is also inconsistent, but better than I expected.

Before he joined the Jazz I hated that innocent look he does with the ":o" face and his palms to the ceiling, but now I kind of love him for it.

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Thats true ive seen him have

Thats true ive seen him have quite afew defencive mistakes. But atleast hes a presence at the rim, unlike Boooooo zer.

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At

At least Boozer was intense. He would scream and I think that kind of pumped everybody up. He was a better rebounder and better at getting steals, but it is nice to have somebody who can block a few shots down low.

Nothing against Hayward and Jefferson but I still think we made a mistake not drafting Cole Aldrich.

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So are you saying you would

So are you saying you would have rather had the project who i dont think has even played this year instead of big Al? If so your nuts bro sorry.

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What ever happened to that

What ever happened to that site, CarlozLoozer.com? I remember angry Cavs fans made it after Boozer left. I thought everybody knew Cavs fans hated being left after that. It was a sign of things to come.

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Yes

We don't need points, we need defense. Jefferson is a great scorer, but Aldrich is an intense defender with the potential to be one of the best defenders in the NBA.

Millsap and AK would have picked up the scoring and best of all, we would be running Sloan's system at full speed. Jefferson is a system stopper. Aldrich wouldn't need plays called for him, he would have been scoring off of garbage opportunites and D-Will's penetration.

Jefferson is a good player, but he wasn't what Utah needed.

Besides, with that cap space we could have kept Korver and Matthew, and had enough left over for any necessary signings.

Aldrich isn't a better player than Jefferson, but the Jazz would be a better team with Aldrich.

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lol i needa go sign up. I was

lol i needa go sign up. I was just watching the Jazz pre game show and i could tell he was doing his best to play it off cool. Probably just being professional but it was funny still. He said he, Brewer, and Kover talk about their times together in Utah alot, and he does miss playing here. But he had to do what was best for him. He just got booed pretty good during the starting lineups. Honestly i dont really care that he's gone i like big Al better.

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Right now Millsap is punking

Right now Millsap is punking Boozer. Boozer already has two turnovers. 2 points, and two balls knocked away outta bounds. My boy D Wilt is gonna make Derrick Rose wilt tonight hurt shooting wrist and all.

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Even

Even now you can see Jefferson not getting on loose balls, closing out poorly and bobbling rebounds. The Jazz won't be a championship team without hustle and defense.

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Yeah

You can tell Williams' wrist is hurting. He's an 85% free throw shooter and he missed three in a row going back to his last game.

EDIT: Actually, I'm remembering that wrong. He went 3-6 in his last game, and he's 1-2 so far today.

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Ya he's playing tentatively.

Ya he's playing tentatively. I know his shots off but still he needs to be more aggressive going to the rim. And no money i dont wanna break this to you Alrich wouldn't have been the answer to our center problems. He's a unathletic 6"11 or 6"10 1/2 big man. He would be a poor mans ostertag after we wait around a few years.

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You were saying Utah fans

You were saying Utah fans would hate Aldrich because he reminded you of Ostertag LOL! Sloan wouldve made a player out of Aldrich, btw I cant help but think Scott Brooks will get fired soon. he is horrible at developing young talent and thats what OKC has to do moving forward.

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Uh

"He's a unathletic 6"11 or 6"10 1/2 big man. He would be a poor mans ostertag after we wait around a few years."

Yeah, you've never scouted him. Try basing your opinions on more than just athletic combine results.

The Ostertag comparison is beyond ignorant.

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Maybe your right. All i know

Maybe your right. All i know is what ive seen of him on t.v. and read. He also played 3 years for a top college team, was drafted in the lottery, yet hasnt managed to get any playing time on a team who has no legit 5.

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Hmmm

"Sloan wouldve made a player out of Aldrich"

Would he have to? Aldrich was a smart, energetic and tough defender. That is more than enough for Jerry Sloan. It's not like we would have needed him to create any offense for himself. His best offensive skills were outlet passes and screens. That is perfect for the Utah system.

People see a white player from Kansas with a stupid haircut and they think Greg Ostertag.

Now I remember why I hated Jazz fans so much last June. They would rather have Hassan Whiteside or Luke Babbitt than a player like Cole Aldrich that would come in and put in work.

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Ostertag

Ostertag's biggest weakness was his laziness. Aldrich played harder than anybody else on that Kansas team last season. No comparison between the two.

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We don't need points, we need

We don't need points, we need defense. Jefferson is a great scorer, but Aldrich is an intense defender with the potential to be one of the best defenders in the NBA.

I guess you forgot not only were we losing Boozers 20 a game. But also Memo's had a down year last year, and has barely played this year, and before that was a huge part of the offence. Thats why we needed to get big Al's offencive production.

Oviously we were all wrong about the Jazz's pick. And i wouldn't really want any of those players. Im kinda happy with what ive seen from Hayward lately. I was talking about big men in last years draft when everyone, including us thought they would draft big. The Jazz coaching staff took the best player avalible in their eyes. All the players you just named were all brought in for workouts and there is a reason why none of them were picked. They must have seen atleast a little tag in him otherwise why not pick him? Or some other team if they believe could be that dominant on defence?

Can you imagine our team with no Al Jefferson? We would still have Millsap at the 4 but he cant play center at 6"8. So we would have to start who? Elson, Fez, Aldrich? Which of them can score more than 8 or 9 ppg? Should we pray Memo would be back in time for the playoffs and that he would be half the player he was, if he ever comes back. And if we even got in at all.

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He's 9th in blocks this

He's 9th in blocks this years. He gives you 17 and 9, and those numbers have been goin up all year. He's had what 20 plus in the 4 last games.

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Here is what I learned in the

Here is what I learned in the first half.....

1. Rose can get to the rack any damn time he wants....the speed is lethal. I already knew this but it still amazes me.

2. Deron is clearly hurt.

3. Boozer is non existent on the defensive end.

4. AK 47's hair is phenomenal.

5. Gordon Hayward has miles to go, he looks lost at the speed of the game.

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Aldrich can't even get ANY playing time on an OKC that lacks depth at the 5. Aldrich is a non existent offensive player and wasn't rebounding/blocking shots when he did get limited minutes. I'm not very high on him. He also played 3 years at Kansas so he should be more NBA ready.

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daneboy true and funny and im

daneboy true and funny

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And Rose should have about 12

And Rose should have about 12 assists right now but his teammates are missing wide open jumpers.

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No

"I guess you forgot not only were we losing Boozers 20 a game. But also Memo's had a down year last year, and has barely played this year, and before that was a huge part of the offence. Thats why we needed to get big Al's offencive production."

Oh yeah. I totally forgot about Boozer. #sarcasm

The Jazz system doesn't need one on one scorers. Players score through the system. If you've EVER seen the Jazz play, you should know that. Kirilenko and Millsap are both capable of scoring more and more effienctly.

I don't care if Aldrich isn't playing for OKC. That means nothing. He would be a fantastic fit in Utah's system, and that's my whole point.

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Yes

"Can you imagine our team with no Al Jefferson?"

Yes. I can imagine a team with better defense and offensive efficiency.

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I meant forgot about the

I meant forgot about the 16-18ppg Okur was getting before last season. Even now they Jazz have times they have trouble getting consistant scoring. Without Jefferson i see no inside presence and lack of offencive weapons. O and throw in not making the playoff too.

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Scoring

Scoring is overrated.

Deron Williams, Wesley Matthews, Andrei Kirilenko, Paul Millsap and Jerry Sloan's system could outscore the opponents if they were playing solid defense.

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"Aldrich can't even get ANY

"Aldrich can't even get ANY playing time on an OKC that lacks depth at the 5. Aldrich is a non existent offensive player and wasn't rebounding/blocking shots when he did get limited minutes. I'm not very high on him. He also played 3 years at Kansas so he should be more NBA ready."

Like I said, sloan would make Aldrich a beast. Alot of that needs to be credited to the lack of decelopmental skills by Brooks, Aldrich did play spot minutes this year and I think I saw his first minutes on the court when he was very active and threw his wieght around. he should not be in the D-League and on at least 20 other teams in the league he would get 20-mpg and be a helpful player to the rotation. Just needed to shake offthe rookie mistakes and that takes time and in game experience. I bet he starts for OKC next year if they dont pickup anyone else, I think OKC just wants to justify Kristics contract.

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Dude this who ever this guy

Dude this who ever this guy named and Rose is he's pretty damn good.

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D Rose 27-7 Deron 11-11 Nice

D Rose 27-7

Deron 11-11

Nice game passing by Deron, but hes been substantially outplayed by Rose.

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I cant believe you guys are

I cant believe you guys are really saying you would take Cole Aldrich over Al Jefferson? There the same size pretty much. Yes Aldrich hustles and plays D but thats pretty much all. Jeferson's better in every way. Are you guys watching this guy play tonight? Boozer has made so many more mistakes on defence than he has. Jefferson is been a beast and will continue being one for some time.

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Nice play big al

Nice play big al

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Last 3 Jazz

Last 3 Jazz possessions:

Deron Turnover

Al Turnover

Deron Turnover

Can you say CLUTCH?

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The

The Jazz are one of the worst rebounding teams in the NBA. Their defense (at least recently) is hardly average.

This game is a great example of how Al Jefferson hurts the team. He's a good scorer but that doesn't help the Jazz like you think.

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I dont care if his wrist is

I dont care if his wrist is hurt or not he got out played. D Rose is an animal. I cant believe i lost a bet to a Canadian. You win OhCanada.

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That was a sloppy game. Rose

That was a sloppy game. Rose had another awesome game on offense...but...his defense was spectacular tonight.

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Jefferson

Has definetely been inconsistent, but come on he is obviously a much better option than Aldrich. I think the biggest problem with Aldrich is that he just isn't that big. When he was in college, he looked huge, but I remember in a college match ups where he played against average, but big college centers who could move him around under when posting up. Now, I'm not saying Aldrich can't develop into a good player, but he hasn't shown me anything yet to make me even believe this. I thought he was really NBA ready from a rebounding and post defense point of view. He's shown that he isn't. Time will tell, though.

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We could do alot worse thats

We could do alot worse thats for sure. He's 13th in rebounding, 9th in blocks shots. Im not sure we can do much better than that. In a perfect world he'd be playing his natural pf position, and we would have a athletic shotblocking/rebounder like a De Andre Jordon or Javeel Mgee type player at center to complete his post game. Or even a center like the old Memo.

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Now youve got a debt to pay.

Now youve got a debt to pay. Give me your points! Ill have my people coming to "talk" you into giving them to me if you dont comply the easy way. McDunkin and/or his representitives will be visiting you shortly...

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I know i cant believe the

I know i cant believe the finish of the game by the Jazz

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I know this shouldn't be that

I know this shouldn't be that big of deal since they are winning but should Rose really take 26 shots? 29 points on 26 attempts isn't good but they are winning so I don't really have a problem with it.

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