Call me crazy...
I know there's already been a million posts about this...but I haven't had much opportunity to watch the Clips this year. I'm watching Bledsoe today, and I seriously think he could end up being a better PG than John Wall. Other than maybe his outside shooting (mid-range to 3), he's just got such a complete all-around game, and he's more athletic than pretty much anyone on the floor at any given time. I have a feeling that when his contract is up, he could get a near-max deal wherever he ends up, and could be a franchise player. Thoughts?
I wish the Magic would make a play for him come all star break.
I doubt the clippers move him before Chris Paul's signature is inked to an extension. But Bled would be a good look on Orlando. Wouldn't surprise me if they made a play for him this summer or next year. Remember Bledsoe is on his rookie deal until NEXT summer.
All I'm going to say is this:
Wizards without Wall 5-28
Wizards with Wall 9-7
Clippers with Bledsoe on the bench 29-11
Clippers with Bledsoe starting 6-6
The Clips would probably want Vucevic (probably first preference) or Harkless or Nicholson back if the Magic tried to trade for him, I would think. Would the Magic be willing to give one of them up?
Vucci Mane is off limits, but AN/Hark could be had.
Magic will have a good shot at that top pick. Noel next to Vuc would be a nice defensive/offensive tandem down low. So AN (who has shown he can def score) COULD be had.
Not sure why the Clips would want any of those young guys though? They are in win now mode so you might as well keep EB. I figured the point of trading EB would be to gain that final piece to the puzzle for a shot at the title.
I think JJ or Afflalo would be a very good piece to the Clips puzzle. Both are gritty/tough defenders & both can spot up & come off screens for buckets.
Would most likely have to be a 3 team trade to make the salaries match though, so that is where it gets tricky.
Right now, Wall is better, yeah. And I'm not necessarily saying that Bledsoe WILL be better. I'm just wondering if he has the potential to be better?
Could he be better? Absolutely. Do I think he will? No I don't but I don't think it will lopsided either.
Don't cop a plea now. You know your original statement was bledsoe is gonna end up better then wall.
Right now: Wall
In 2-3 years: Bledsoe
I don't agree, in three years wall will have a legitimate team and will have progressed more, while Bledsoe is a wildcard with an uncertain future.
if i were the clips, i'd make a move for a guy like afflalo. that would be icing on the cake for the team.
Statistic say the wizards have the best defense in the league since wall came back to the lineup. And I watch wall beat my Knicks the other day so i kinda can't agree with you on bledsoe ending up better then him. Y'all really underate wall its a shame
Bledsoe isnt that much better than Jameer Nelson......Bledsoe wish he did have Wall's athleticism and ability to create..Once Wall learns how to play half court,consistently hit that mid-range sho and add some strength,he'll become an all star....
Really? Have you not seen Bledsoes athleticism & ability to create? He def has a chance to be special.
I understand where your coming from.
But i also look at how Wall actually has regressed, while Bledsoe has gotten leaps and bounds better each year, he's more athletic than Wall, and his defense his already better, I think it's a good chance Bledsoe will end up better.
I don't really think he's regressed it's just he is in a bad situation for most of his career yet he still put up 16 5 and 8 in his first 2 years; Wall doesn't have a guy like CP3 to tutor him and has to learn on the fly; Bledsoe has a chance to be better than wall but John has 20+ 5 and 10+ potential
Wall will always be better...book it. Bledsoe has got ridiculous athleticism but so does Wall...
Wall has better leadership qualities, he's a better playmaker/passer, and he's got that killer instinct about him also (will to win)..
Bledsoe I believe can be a solid starting PG but Wall has got superstar ability and all the bashing of him is without merit...he's a winner that's been in a bad environment since day 1...
NO WAY will Bledsoe EVER be Better than Wall.......U Guys are ONCE Again Jumping on another Bandwagon...If both guys reach their Peaks and become the players experts think they'll become..... Bledsoe would be an all star and Wall a Hall of Famer.....
Couldn't agree more bro...can't believe so many people forget how good Wall is and what he can become...
Yeah this Bledsoe hype has gotten unreal
I'm a huge Bledsoe fan but this talk about him IS unreal ..lol He has ZERO leadership qualities and intangibles, not saying he can't develop those, but he's a long ways a way from being able to run a team effectively...
I agree the Wizards are doing quite well with Wall, and that we haven't seen enough of Bledsoe, I think its way too premature to crown either going forward. The last two years Wall has played, and the Wizards have been pretty horrible. I would also say that Bledsoe, to me, has improved more since coming into the league than Wall has. Right now he
s averaging 14.5-7 with a pedestrian 17.27 PER. Bledsoe is more of an X-factor player for his team, but then again his team is good. And he has a better PER than Wall at 18.87. I just think their situations are so different its too hard to say at this point. I don't think the record thing is that important right now. If the Wizards maintain a winning record for the rest of the season, then maybe that'll be more solid evidence of his success. But I'm not going to kill Bledsoe for going 6-6 as a starter, a few of those games were without Griffin too. I'm just saying, two promising young players that are hard to gauge against each other thus far.
To be fair, Wall has come off an injury that cost him almost have the season and has been missing Brad Beal too. The difference between 5-28 and 9-7 is pretty hard to ignore, especially since those 9 wins include the Nets, Clippers, Knicks, Nuggets, Hawks and Bulls. I think it's fair to say Wall has had a much greater impact on his team this season.
Just breaking it down further makes it even more impressive:
No Wall: 2-18 vs playoff teams, 3-10 vs non-playoff teams
Wall: 6-4 vs playoff teams, 3-3 vs non-playoff teams (2 of those are against the #9 team in each conference)
I'm not saying Wall doesn't make an impact on his team. The question is who will end up being the better player, and my point is, its unfair to claim either is better nor worse. Bledsoe has played every game for the Clips, Wall has missed 33. I would take the 53 games I've gotten from Bledsoe over 16 from Wall.
Dude your logic makes no sense, so were going to ignore John Walls first 2 seasons then right?
Lebron's Hairlines- Were they winning games his first 2 seasons? Listen you guys have such a hard time understanding an argument that is simply trying to open up the possibility that everything you believe true isn't neccessarily 100% accurate.
Bledsoe has been a role player coming off the bench whose shown glimpses of being a very good player. Wall has played for 3 years as his teams best player, and until this year they've gone nowhere. This year, he is playing decently, and the team has played well since he's returned. But you are arguing that the fact a team has had success with him replacing the likes of Jordan Crawford, a chucker 2 guard, at point guard has turned the team's success around, but the fact that Bledsoe's team has digressed when he replaces CP3, the best pure PG in the league, that this somehow means Wall is better than Bledsoe. I'm not even saying he isn't, what I'm saying is, that until Bledsoe is the starter on a team, and/or getting 30-35 minutes a game, its very difficult to tell what Bledsoe can be. Maybe he will maximize his skills, maybe he will be much less efficient. What I know is, that Wall hasn't been AMAZING this year, but clearly the team is improved with him. Bledsoe still holds a better PER than him. And in the previous 2 years, Wall's team has had little to no success winning what so ever. My points were that it is too hard to tell who is better at this point, and its unfair to say that the fact the Wizards improved with Wall replacing Crawford and the Clippers digressed with Bledsoe replacing Paul, is just an unfair statement to make.
So because they weren't winning games it discredits what he's done? I guess Kyrie Irving's stats are pointless then, the clips were stagnant and weren't winning with Bledsoe starting also
So you're telling me because John wall couldn't win with THE stupidest team in the NBA his first two years that he's not productive as a winner? I just wanna make sure that you know what you're saying... Oh and Bledsoe IS playing on a team where he isn't the leader and is surrounded by vets. I just want to state, winning makes you look good, so since bledsoes TEAM is winning, he's now all of a sudden better than John wall?
Pass first nature and a scary ampidextrius game. Very athletic and quick. Had a natural feel for PG position that Bledsoe has to think about. Bledsoe is nice though. Getting overvalued though. If I was the Clips he would stay put until CP3 is gone. Trading him is dumb.