Bulls Trades?
#1
To Warriors: #16 and #26
To Bulls: #7 (DeJuan Blair)
#2
To Nets: Ben Gordon
To Bulls: Bobby Simmons and #11 (Terrence Williams)
These trades would be PERFECT for the BULLS. It's obvious they like and need both Blair and Williams. On the other end of things, G.S. is looking for a PG and Budinger maybe, which they can make happen at 16 and 26. BG7 is from New York, so I'm sure he would have no problem playing in New Jersey with Devin Harris, Vinsanity, and Lopez.
I LOVE those two deals. Follow them up by trading Luol and Tyrus for Chris Bosh or Ama're Stoudemire this summer and then sign DWADE away from Miami next summer and they are on their way to another DYNASTY!!!
Minnesota gets: Tyrus Thomas, 16th and 26th pick, and Tim Thomas
Chicago gets: Kevin Love, 6th pick.
Minnesota would consider the trade because they have Jefferson already to play PF and Kevin Love seemed to excel when AJ went out. I think Tyrus Thomas would be a nice compliment to him. With the 16th pick and 18th pick, they could pick BJ Mullens and/or James Johnson. At 26 and 28, they can add back court depth. The Draft has much more value at the back end then the beginning.
The Bulls could really benefit from Kevin Love's post presence. With the 6th pick, they should choose either James Harden, or Demar DeRozan. The Bulls need back court depth because of the true possibility of Ben Gordon leaving.
How about the Bulls take on one of their bad contracts, say Maggette or Ellis, and their #7 pick in exchange for some of our expiring contracts, say Tim Thomas, Nelson, and Roberson, and #16?
There is a lot of talk out there that picks can be had in exchange for bad contracts. That's why I'm bringing it up.
Bulls gotta do Golden State deal. I don't think they would bite on it. I think the key to taking on a bad contract is to get someone who is simply overpaid. Not a guy who gets paid a ton to sit on the bench and be a cancer. Ellis and Maggette can contribute.
I would much rather see the BULLS target a few players and BE AGGRESSIVE in getting them, then just sit back and rely on the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE theory of drafting. If they like BLAIR...go get him. If they like Williams...go get him. If they like DeRozan...go get him. Whoever they like and are targeting...BE AGGRESSIVE and go get them!!!
My suggestions:
Blair, Williams, Young, and DeRozan in the 1st Round
McNeal, Dozier, Suton, and Rice in the 2nd Round.
* Given the fact McNeal has worked out twice for the Bulls now, he may be their 2nd pick in the 1st Round. I wouldn't mind that at all. Chicago has a LONG HISTORY of producing some pretty good undersized guards. (Rose, Wade, Thomas, Cheeks, Rivers, Hardaway, Bynum, Brown, the other Brown, etc.).
To Bulls: Chris Bosh, Patrick O'Bryant, Acie Law and Speedy Claxton
To Hawks: Tyrus Thomas, Brad Miller and Nathan Jawai
To Raptors: Josh Smith, Luol Deng and a 1st Round Pick
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ly4uhy
It seems to solve each teams needs, for the most part.
The Bulls want Bosh bad. The Hawks want to save money bad. The Raptors would get two nice young players under long-term contracts and a draft pick to help build with and replace Bosh and Marion.
I LOVE THIS IDEA!!!
Feedback?
Blockbuster trades arent going to happen. stop posting them. Unless Bosh or any other star says he wants out he isnt being traded. The only big men who are openly on the block are either Shaq or the LA Clippers big men. My questions to other bulls fans are do we want either? and what would be a reasonable price?
Trade 1
Shaq for B. Miller and K. Hinrich
for B. Miller, Tim Thomas, and Tyrus Thomas
(or any other type of combinations)
Trade 2
Kaman for B. Miller
for K. Hinrich
for Tim Thomas and Tyrus Thomas
Randolph for K. Hinrich and Tyrus Thomas
for B. Miller and Tyrus Thomas
P.S. Deng and Noah can be substituted but i think they are going to play really well next year. My preference is Shaq then Kaman then Randolph. With Shaq its only for one year so no Ben Wallace situation and I really dont want Randolph though he is a good low post scorer.
Thoughts? Feeback?
about:
To Bulls: Chris Bosh, Patrick O'Bryant, Acie Law and Speedy Claxton
To Hawks: Tyrus Thomas, Brad Miller and Nathan Jawai
To Raptors: Josh Smith, Luol Deng and a 1st Round Pick
not going to happen......yea i can see the Raps and Bulls going with it but surely not the Hawks.....yes, they are trying to save money.....but at what cost.......they are trying to build a team around four solid players: Bibby, Johnson, Smith, and Hortford.....Smith and Johnson were the two players that were really carryin the Hawks through the playoffs.....there is no way they wanna get rid of their future (Smith).....i heard the rumour that ATL is shoppin Smith...thats a rumour.....they will only trade him if they get a solid young player in return....and Miller and Thomas aint worth it......i think you are really over-rating Tyrus Thomas.....furthermore, Smith is a huge fan fav. over there......ATL is still a very young team (avg age being 25).....give them some time and they'll become a solid playoff contender.....they are in the same position the Magic were two years ago, when they beat Raps in the first round and lost badly in the second.........give them some time.....jus need to get better players around their core group of 4........if they really wanna save money, get rid of players like Speedy who's gettin more than 5 mil.......plus Mike Bibby will be re-signed for less.....will save about 5 mil from him.....
I think a few big names will be moved before the 2010-2011 season. Also, I got a response from someone I trust at the Chicago Tribune and he says that Ben Gordon cannot be moved in a sign and trade before July 1, 2009 b/c he is an UFA. Now, that doesn't mean that a deal wouldn't be in place, but it probably won't happen on draft night it would have to be a sign-and-trade after July 1, 2009.
Plus, it would mean that Gordon wants to play for a team that has:
A) Cap restrictions who would need to move a player or two before giving Gordon the money he wants
B) A player that the Bulls REALLY want in order to take on salary
C) A player falls to that team's draft pick who the Bulls want and everyone just waits until 12:01 AM on July 1, 2009 to make the deal
Apparently no team wants to take a chance at getting their draft picks just decimated like what happened to the Timberwolves in 2000 with the Joe Smith fiasco. So, I don't think that he can be involved in any potential "draft pick" deals, and it would take A LOT of different things falling into place in order for a 2009 NBA Draft pick to come to the Bulls in exchange for Ben Gordon. Would it be the Pistons pick? It doesn't seem very likely that the Bulls would be THAT enamored with anyone on the Pistons roster worth about $8,000,000.00 or $9,000,000.00 (which they would probably have to take back) and I also don't think the Bulls really want 2 guys REALLY BADLY at #15 and #16. I could be wrong though.
To Bulls: #11 (DeJuan Blair) and Bobby Simmons
To Nets: BG7
The salaries would match up and as we all know BG7 is from New York, which is pretty darn close to New Jersey. That deal could get done. I have already heard rumors about the Bulls and Nets talking about #11. Apparently, the Nets aren't high on DeJuan Blair anymore, but the Bulls definitely are. This deal makes sense and could be pulled off post draft. I presented it to DraftExprees and Hoopsworld and they both liked it.
I think this trade makes sense.
To Bulls: Kelenna Azubuike and Brandon Wright
To Warriors: Tim Thomas and a future pick
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mav47n
The Warriors are guard heavy and with Azubuike set to be an unrestricted free-agent at the end of the season, they won't be able to keep him. If I were JP and/or GF I would go after this kid. He would be a nice replacement for BG7, as well as a good piece to have if they plan on pursuing DWADE in 2010.
Here are some trades that I think could work.
#1)
To Nets: Ben Gordon (sign and trade)
To Bulls: Bobby Simmons and the 11th pick
#2)
To Suns: Tyrus Thomas, Luol Deng and Tim Thomas
To Bulls: Amar'e Stoudemire and Alando Tucker
#3.)
To Suns: Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich and Tim Thomas
To Bulls: Amar'e Stoudemire and Alando Tucker
#4.)
To Golden State: #16 and #26
To Bulls: #7
#5.)
To Bulls: Chris Bosh, Marcus Banks and Julian Wright
To Raptors: David West, Luol Deng and a draft pick
To Hornets: Ben Gordon or Kirk Hinrich and Tyrus Thomas
#6.)
To Bulls: Chris Bosh, Vladamir Radmonovic, Patrick O'Bryant
To Raptors: Boris Diaw or Emeka Okafor, Luol Deng and a draft pick
To Bobcats: Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas
#7.)
To Bulls: Chris Bosh, Jerry Stackhouse and Patrick O'Bryant
To Raptors: Josh Howard, Tyrus Thomas and a draft pick
To Mavs: Kirk Hinrich and Luol Deng
#8.)
To Bulls: Travis Outlaw and Martell Webster
To Blazers: Luol Deng, Anthony Roberson and Linton Johnson
#9.)
To Kings: Kirk Hinrich
To Bulls: Jason Thompson and Kenny Thomas
#10.)
To Thunder: Tim Thomas
To Bulls: Earl Watson
* They all graded fairly even.