Bulls done next season too
The 23-year-old Rose tore the ACL on April 28 during the first game of the Bulls' Eastern Conference quarterfinals series against the Philadelphia 76ers. Without Rose, the Bulls became only the fifth No. 1 seed to lose to an eighth seed as the Sixers won in six games.
"Derrick is doing great," Cole said Tuesday at a press conference at Rush University Medical Center. "The surgery went extremely well. Really no surprises. It was pretty routine.
"We're at this point very optimistic. ... We think of recovery as the long process that's in stages. But the short answer is the time frame we believe an athlete of this caliber generally requires is about eight to 12 months. Sometimes shorter, sometimes longer."
That means Rose is likely to miss at least the first two months of next season, or he could miss the entire season.
Bulls general manager Gar Forman said Rose was ready for rehabilitation.
"In the time frame I've spent with him, and I was with him over the weekend, his spirits seemed really good," Forman said. "In his mind, he's determined to attack this rehab and get back to the level that he was at.
Derrick Rose may miss the entire season next year, not to mention, 2013-2014 might be a recovery season for Rose which means the Bulls may not be championship contenders for the next 2 seasons. Also, by that time Brewer, Korver, Watson, Asik, Hamilton and Gibson's contracts will be expired by then.
Will we ever see THIS Bulls team at full force once again or will they try to rebuild around Noah, Deng, and Rose?
Pull what the Spurs did when they got Duncan, tank and go get Shabazz/ Zeller/ Noel.... Not likely but I'm just saying, they get a mulligan next year.
I knew all those people who said he'd be back next year early some people were saying even 6 months possibly, didn't know what they were talking about, Rose will sit out at least 10-12 months, he is a high caliber NBA player and his game is based off his athletic ability he's not going to rush back if he's not 100%.
Hopefully he's a fast healer and comes back 100%. He's the face of that franchise and one of the most exciting players to watch.
I wonder how this effects the Carlos Boozer question. With next year being a washout anyway I think that you need to trade him or amnesty him. Trade him to a contender on their last legs (Spurs?) then retool for two years from now.
They have to get Mr Big Shot. He is a free agent and a veteran point guard who can lead the team and reunite and spark Rip Hamilton. It just makes the most sense.
Billups - Watson - Lucas
Hamilton - Korver - Butler
Deng - Brewer - Butler
Boozer - Gibson
Noah - Asik
Draft: 3 options in no order: european prospect, a big man for extra depth, someone who can make there own shot besides Watson for off the bench
If they can do what San Antonio did when David Robinson went out, and they pick a really good player, this next decade is going to be stacked with top loaded teams, although if they keep Korver and Watson, and don't amnesty Booz yet, than they will still be a solid team, so I don't think tanking for another ogreat player is in the question, if Rose can come back for the playoffs next year at even 17 and 6 form, they still might have a shot to make a run, I do think that by 2013-2014 Rose should be right, and hopefull the team around him will be good as well.
Just tank, move Boozer, draft Shabazz or trade the pick and Boozer for EJ and move Gibson to the starting 4 spot with Mirotic backing him up
do yall think the bulls drafting darius miller in the first round is a reach?
See I would tank with no shame..... but this is a proud team and led by a coach who will always fight no matter what the sitaution is. They won't win a championship but they will probably make the playoffs as a lower seed. I can't see the Bulls tanking an entire season even if the draft class is looking promising.
A starting calibur PG has to be the first priority. Don't even think about Watson/Lucas as potential starting PGs for an entire season. If it means amenstying Boozer to acquire a reliable PG, they should do the amensty with no hesitation.
If the Bulls stink, I'd sit Rose out the entire year.
But honestly, it doesn't take a professional athlete 12 full months just to get back on the floor. He had reconstructive ACL surgery not microfracture surgery. 12 months is how long it takes average Joe's, not professional athletes who work on being athletes for a living.
It all depends on how Rose heals and attacks his rehab, but I personally think he'll return in 8-9 months... 10 months being the max. He'll probably be physically ready to play in 7 months...
In 1995, Rod Woodson tore his ACL in the first week of the season. He played in the Superbowl that year. That was 17 years ago, anything can happen. Rose is a hard worker, my bet is he'll play next season.
Why risk your franchise. I would not play him until 100%. He will play at 7 months maybe but the explosion will take a full year.
THE CHICAGO BULLS MUST REBUILD!!!!
Follow that gameplan, and you've probably gotten at least 10 people fired, riots in Chitown, and Eddy Curry eating his feelings of sadness at a Chicago pizzeria somewhere in response.
I May Be Wrong, you bring up the fact that you can't see this Bulls organization tank, but we would say the same about this Spurs organization, and although them getting Timmy is in large part due to David Robinson's injury, they did tank to an extent to get Timmy, so I wouldn't rule out anything, but even without Rose this team is a 6th seed, they are well coached, play stifling D, and are controlled on offense. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Rose-less Bulls team win 48 games in a regular season, however they would never get past round 1 without D-Rose
Haha you people are acting as if tanking is an option. In 1997 everyone was about as sure as you could be that Tim Duncan would be a transcendent player. Shabazz who I think is the best player that will be draft eligible next year is nowhere near Duncan's hype at the same stage. And do you really think all these excellent role players the Bulls have will sacrifice their next paycheck by playing half-heartedly. The Spurs team had a horrible team without Robinson, the Bulls will still make the playoffs without Rose. Man there is some dumb stuff posted on this site sometimes.
This Bulls team Overachieved this season when Rose was out..Yeah they beat some good teams,but there were reasons for that..
1.Was becuz coach Thibs got his team to commit to defense and playing hard..
2. Their bench stepped up and played with confidence..
3.Thibs is a great coach,he's constantly watching films studying his team's next opponents..
4 They had great chemistry,they did the little things like making the extra pass,getting the ball to the hot player...
5.Teams had their game plan set as if Rose was still playing and that was a mistake..
Thibs should've been coach of the year..If you look at the Bulls roster they really dont have a player that can create shots for himself or his teammates besides Rose...I expect them to make the playoffs next season if nobody else gets hurts and even if Rose doesnt play as a 6th or 7th seed..But they wont go far..Becuz teams now know their strenths and weaknesses...
If Rose is out for up to 8 months this summer the Bulls should go Billups,use their 1st round pick on Machado or move up and select Marshall..
And speaking of the Spurs,i dont think a team is Trying to Tank on purpose when your starting rotating centers are Will Perdue and Cadillac Anderson..Your backcourt is Avery Johnson & Vinny Del Negro and the guy that leads the team in scoring is a 37 year old Dominique Wilkens.....lol
Honestly, the Bulls jumped too high too soon, and weren't able to find a young running mate for Rose. This injury provides a perfect opportunity for a top tier team to suck really bad without the world-ending because losing your franchise player to injury is only temporary.
That said, the Bulls need to commit to using this as an opportunity to find some legimitate firepower for the future, because Rip Hamilton and Carlos Boozer are too old to miss a year of contending, Deng is 27 now, and that's old enough to start to worry.
If they hold on with this group and try to win it all next season, they could easily ensure that they'll waste Rose's prime years being a middle of the pack team. Rose will be 24 this October, and 25 by the start of the 2013-2014 season. It seems like just yesterday he was drafted, but so much of Rose's game relies on his athleticism/quickness that he'll burn out pretty quickly once it starts to go.
Take the hit and amnesty Boozer, try to bring Mirotic over sooner rather than later so he can get blooded, let Hamilton go, make Deng get the surgery after the Olympics so that he's fully healthy and not worry about winning too many games next season.
If they can do these things and end up with a top-5 pick, they might be primed to take the mantle of best in the East from the Heat in three years.
You only hope that it turns out a bit more like the Spurs getting Duncan, than the Heat getting Michael Beasley the year Wade went down.
Wow.. All you morons saying they need blow up the roster and bring in young players because Rose is hurt should go into that "Bulls need to rebuild" thread and start giving that dude his points back coz you're all agreeing with him.
Let me get this straight... Every team that has no hope of winning the finals should tank and get the best possible pick.. OK so for next year let the Heat, Celtics, Spurs, Lakers, Thunder and maybe the Pacers and Clippers play while everyone else rests their top players so they get a small shot at Shabbazz or Noel.
The idiodicy in this thread is astounding.
Tank except the Bulls aren't the worst or a bottom 5 team w/out Rose.
They weren't the worst or a bottom five team when they won the lottery and picked Rose.
1st Off Chicago is supposed to be a great basketball city with a lot of pride, to openly tank would be the Low point of their franchise, they didn't even tank when they lost Jordan/Pippen/Rodman...
2nd, if they start tanking doesn't it show the rest of the league that they are terrified about this injury, Rose tore his ACL and his Meniscus, next year is a lost cause for Derrick, he should not rush back to the court until he's 100% and the Bulls have a decent shot at winning something
People are crazy if the Bulls and Tom 'Thibbs" are going to completely shut it down, they also may not have a choice in the matter
Rose is out with an ACL/Meniscus injury
Noah need's to rest his body after his long and painful season
Deng may need a few minor surgeries himself after this marathon of a NBA season and a run at an Olympic medal
Boozer and Hamilton are getting older by the Day it seems, Carlos' contract is one many want off the books
Omer Asik and Taj Gibson are Restricted Free Agents and and they Bull's will have to worry about bitting the bullet and paying into the Luxary Tax just to keep all of their Bigmen in town...They can't just Amnesty Boozer and use the money on Free Agent X, because they'd still be in that Luxary Tax bracket and without Derrick Rose for the season
IMO they have to start in the Draft
They should look into trading up into the top 20 and grabbing the Best Guard Available(Terrence Ross or Doron Lamb could be there)
They may try to trade Boozer for a 2nd round pick on Draft Night thus freeing up some Cap space and getting a young prospect as well, maybe a perimeter defender or a glue guy like(Draymond Green or Robbie Hummel)
Walk away from the 2012 Draft with 2 prospects to replace Rip and Brewer or Korver
Use the Cap space from trading Boozer to resign Gibson and Asik(If Asik will take a modest 4 to 6 million dollar per year contract, think Darko's deal in Minnesota)
Next year play the cards your dealt and allow Rose/Deng and Noah to rest and rehab their injuries, this is not Tanking, this is a playing the cards you're dealt
The Bulls would not be a Top 5 pick caliber Team, but they would fall into that 12 to 16 range in next year's Draft
They could add another prospect or two and begin the process of building their chemistry as they will finally be full strenght again
its hard enough to keep a team together.....I dont like hearing talk of tanking, plus it wont help Thibs out by doing that, will only make him look bad. I think he would rather win as much as he can and look like a mastermind in the process....and also as mentioned above, some of these guys may be looking at going somewhere else and they definitely want to be paid their max.
I dont think you want to tamper with the roster too much. Also, I am not so sure that going after a PG in the draft is the best thing....I would be more apt to try and obtain a solid veteran but to rely on someone like Billups is wishful thinking.....he just cant play big time minutes anymore, he is like a sub-30 min player now.
Also, although it is highly probable that Rose will be able to return next year, I dont think it is wise to do so. I would sit him the entire year, after that, when he comes back, he will be closer to what he was physically, he will only have to get in game shape.
@Rico, I dont think grabbing Darius Miller in the 1st round is a reach...he is a capable player, but I dont think he is necessarily what the Bulls need. I think they have to go for the best player on the board. Incidentally, I would go for the other Miller....if Quincy is still around, that would be my guy. Whoever the Bulls pick in the 1st round is not likely to be an impact right away anyhow...so go for the upside.
LMAO @ Frogman for Suggesting everyone give the Creator of the Legendary Thread ''Bulls Need to Rebuild,''' his points back...
Even if he could've came back sooner, they were done next season. It takes 18-24 months to get back to top form. Uncertainty, and a lack of confidence in the knee will haunt Rose initially. Once he gets used to it, he should be alright.
who here thinks that the Colts tanked to get Andrew Luck in the draft? I'll bet Jim Caldwell thinks differently.
When they diagnosed him with it, I said the Bulls were done for next year too. Best case scenario, he comes back sparingly at the end of the year to get some minutes and get ready to play again. Kind of like Stephen Strasburg in baseball. They got him a few starts with limits at the end of the year last year fret surgery and is pitching well to start off the year.
I don't believe it will take him the whole 2013-14 season though to be 100%. I think he will be back to his regular self 20 to 30 games into that season and could be an all star that year and the Bulls should contend.
Stephen Strasburg had Tommy John surgery though... That's a completely different injury. It's a 12-18 month injury.
It's obviously going to take a pitcher more time to return from that type of ligament tear in an elbow.
On top of which, losing your ace doesn't mean your out of it. A guy that affects your ballclub every 5th day won't be the difference between tanking the season and going for the title.