i hear a lot of talk about how the bulls should resign gordan and trade deng and hinrich. i think that is the worse move we could make. ben gordan is a one dimensional player and salmons is a sg not a sf. it was pretty obvious with pierce lighting salmons up. luol deng is the defensive presence we need to stop there top player and i dont see how we could afford to get rid of him. hinrich is better suited to backup both guard positions also and is a better overall player than gordan. dont get me wrong ben gordan is a good player to have on the team. i just dont think we need him because rose will be that go to guy in the fourth quarter. he was only a rookie this year. plus salmons puts up 20 points a game more effiecently anyways
i also think the bulls should get that inside scorer with dejuan blair at the 16th pick. hes can score down low for sure and his 7'3'' wingspan makes up for his height. yes dejuan blair might slow down the bulls fast break attack but doesnt brad miller slow it down as well. i also like sam young at the 26th spot. i think he is nba ready. hes got a real solid game and is a good backup sf to have.
i dont like the bulls but i agree with you buddy...ben gordon should go to the warriors which cant happen unless its a sign and trade but he could average 30 in that system or maybe even the suns if the still playing dantoni offense
if james johnson falls to them at 16, i like him a lot. If they dont get him, how about jeff pendergraph at 26, he is a decent rebounder and a good scorer (his field goal pct was 60 something)
i agree except the part about lighting salmons up..peirce didnt have a very good series and he couldnt check salmons
gordan is an unrestricted free agent so he can sign anywhere. yes i like james johnson at 16 or even evans but i dont think they will be around. johnson would be nice cuz he has nice size and luol deng needs to prove he can stay healthy this season. pendergrath shot 60% in college. i dont see him being the physical presence in the paint we need. with johnson prolly not being around at 16 and pendergrath not being the answer down low i still like taking dejuan blair at 16. i think hes the scoring presence needed down low to free up some shooters
pierce averaged 23.1 while shooting 42.7%. not great numbers but did anybody think pierce was going to get stopped when he was one on one with salmons. those 3 jumpers he hit from the same spot to win it drove me nuts. its not like hes quick enough to drive anymore. make him go left please
If the Bulls can get him for under 7mil a year, then I'd welcome him back with open arms. Otherwise, let him walk and take Jeff Teague at 16. Tell Teague his job is to come in off the bench and get buckets. At 26 Sam Young would be nice, but I think I'd rather have DaJuan Summers. Reminds me (actually) of John Salmons. I'd love to keep Hinrich as insurance for Derrick (and Kirk actually looks like he can shoot when he doesn't have to handle the ball 40 mins a game AND guard whoever it is that Ben couldn't guard so he's not bad as 2 next to Derrick), but I'd unload Loul and his contract for whatever we can get (T Outlaw and ? from the Blazers possibly). A scoring post isn't going to be found in this draft at 16 or 26 so I say wait Bosh in 2010.
i think if you add a low post presence to this bullz team and give them 2 more yrs they will be a top east competitor for the eastern confs finals 1. becuase derrick rose in 2yrs i believe will be the the 2nd to third best pg in the world expecially if they get a solid big man, 2 they should draft B.j mullins with the 16th pick and terrence williams with that 26th pick becuase b.j gives them a true 7 footer and willliams iz a versitlie g/f who can shoot and handle givin the bulls another ball handler for when rose or kirk arnt in the game keepin ben gordan from handling the ball also brad miller isnt gonna be with bulls hopefully after this season3. tyrus thomas and noah are startin to understand their roles and come into there own as shot blockers and rebounders, with all this being said the bulls have a very bright future ahead of them
I know a lot of you guys, don't think Gordon could be a fit for this time in the next years, I agree, he's not a team player, he take a lot of shot, and don't think defense...
He's one of my favorite player, coz he could take the entire game and win it at the end, he's a clutch, he's an NCAA champ, he work a lot.
If Ben Gordon has become what we see know, I don't think its his entire fault, the bulls knew whose ben gordon before signing an extra year in the summer, If they wanna keep him, they need to rebuild his game, we all know he's a scorer, he can do it everywhere on the court, he has lackeness in defense, so what? the bulls have to work on that in future. If they can't make it, I have a proposition...
The young guys from college are all hungry at playing the NBA, brad miller is getting old, but efficiently to the game, that's where BJ Mullins happens, he's tall, can get to the rim, good at the post, where could fit Blair at chicago? they already got Thomas and Noah playing the 4, Hansbrough can be good in there, he's a hard worker, that's what the bulls wanted since Jordan's left, he can shoot, rebound, defend, all with intensity, he's a winner, with Hansbrough at the 4, you can make of Noah the future 5.
at the wing, you have more possibility in this year draft, who choose? you have Evans, who don't prove enough for me this year, he can do a lot better, and that's why they should get him, with former memphis Derrick Rose, he can be a great backcourt, or Jeff Teague, who can be very dominant, but that's not what the bulls want, that's the reason they're gonna trade Gordon, on this site, they all see ellington higher than the other site, I hope so, I love the Heels, but if they can get ellington, he's a pure shooter, he can get to the rim, and he play defense well.
If they keep hinrich, for the next year, they have a backup for Rose and 2 guard assurance, If they lose Gordon, they lose at least 25pts per game, but bring back money and stability to the team, and a chance to get some big fish in 2010.
if they trade Brad miller, Tim thomas or aaron gray, they could make some place for some players, instead of getting one or 2 players with Gordon's money, they'll gonna have a few more players that wanna play hard.
here's my pick
2/ Teague Hansbrough
don't miss the idea they need a SG not a combo SG/SF, sometimes I don't understand how you think, they also need a big guys, who is ready to play hard in a rebuilding team, don't mean I don't think they can be good again next year, I mean that resigning Deng, and added ROSE-THOMAS-NOAH, it's gonna make noises in the future.
keep hinirich he proved in the playoffs he was valuable trade deng john salmons is good enough and move tim thomas into the rotation some how but if you can trade all three of them for an all star like tyshaun prince,tracy mcgrady, or a all star on the market go for it and draft a bigman in the draft noah sucks so does tyrus thomas and this should be a great rebuildin summer and resign gordon do not try to get iverson we want to win a championship not selll tickets
Anybody with common sense know Noah isn't a true Center yet. Perkins - a decent Center - put a beat down on Noah. I was surprise when Perkins became a factor far as scoring like he did. Point is, BJ Mullens will be the logical choice at 16. He brings a offensive approach and can be a poster type Center that slams everything in his way. Besides, he would mesh well with the three guys upfront right away. At the 26th pick, you guys that will be available like Tyler Smith whom I think would fit nicely in our back-court. He can pass, post, rebound, and provide toughness. So you have options with that last pick, guys that are even better than Smith too. It's just imperative you take Mullens because he's the guy with the most upside that addresses Bulls weakness - size and scoring.
Long term Deng won't fit with Ros because he plays like a half court SF. He's more fitted for Utah Jazz.
yea mullens would be ok. i say keep hinrich and deng. start hinrich at the 2 and deng at 3. bring salmons off the bench as sixth man like a jr smth. so grab another athletic big in mullens, and a perimeter defender like a tyler smith or terrance williams. hinrich plays solid d. this could be like a younger version of the nuggets. solid pg play, athletic bigs, and scoring off the bench.
Rose and Noah are the only sure things to remain long-term. So, with a franchise PG and a great rebounding 7-footer in the fold, what is the next move?
- The Hinrich/Gordon debate is priority #1, of course. What do you value more: a guy who can score 20 ppg off the bench, or one of the league's best perimiter defenders who can handle the ball? I don't think you can keep both, and it really comes down to if you can even get anything of value for Hinrich, and how much you have to pay Benjamin.
- Salmons is fine, but nearing 30 and coming off a career year. Not a long-term solution.
- Not much you can do with Deng at the moment, as his trade value is at an all-time low. Can't trade him unless you get an offer you can't refuse. Probably just gotta hope he can get healthy and live up to his potential.
- Tyrus seems to have hit a plateau. The only defense he truly plays is coming from the weakside to make blocks, and despite being a completely insane athlete, he barely shoots 45% and fancies himself a perimiter player. I think we need a smarter/tougher player down low.
That all being said, I think you look at someone like Blair or Terrence Williams to add a smart/tough player who will contribute right away at 16. Then, if you keep the 26th pick, look at a long-term higher risk pick like BJ Mullens or Gani Lawal if they are available.
...and, of course, avoid Tyler Hansbrough at all costs.
i agree gordon/ hinrich number 1 priority. with this team and rose at the 1 hinrich is the more valuable oneso they have to keep him. with the two picks if they keep them both one has to be mullens or blair the other a defensive two who can play d or a 1 that can back up rose in the future like collison
salmons needs to bulk up if the bulls trade deng. hinrich is too expensive to come off the bench. deng is not performing well so maybe that's why they look into trading him. gordon plays well with drose so maybe that's why they'd keep him. tyrus can play at the 3 or 4. bulls need a banger down low.
They need to let go of Gordon. He is the kind of player that can turn a great rookie, the guy who is suppose to be your franchise guy, into an average player because he demands the ball all the time. He is small, doesn't play defence, and shoots way too much. After letting Gordon go, move Salmons to the 2 (where he fits better) and pay Kirk to be the best backup guard in the league. Start Deng at the 3 and give Tim Thomas some early minutes to see if he can help later. To be safe, draft a guy like Buddinger or Williams so if need be, Timmy can ride the bench. Deng is a long, athletic stopper who can run the floor if that is the plan. Keep Noah and Ty Thomas in the starting line-up and keep Brad in the rotation. Just like with Timmy, draft a potential big man (not Blair or Tyler) that can play both positions. I'm not sure who but maybe they can trade up to find someone. Maybe try to get Hill to someday replace Ty Thomas if he doesn't pan out. Finnaly, allow Rose to be the best point guard he can. Let him make mistakes and play through them. Once the playoffs come, cut your rotation back if need be. Now, without Gordon, they can run an offence and defend every position.