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- Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 7:35pm #53636
rileymcshea3ParticipantThere have been rumors going around that the Bucks really like Marcus Smart and don’t plan on going on a long rebuild. Could the Bucks really take Marcus Smart number 1 overall? For some reason I really believe they could. Espically after seeing the Cavs take Anthony Bennet first last year. Embiid is that raw/high upside guy, while Smart is the only sophomore projected in the top 7. Plus they don’t really need Wiggins or Parker because of Giannis (last name that is hard to spell). Who knows how the Bucks think but I just can’t see the Bucks taking him first overall.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 8:03pm #866620
GrandmamaParticipantGiannis isn’t going to keep them from taking either Parker or Wiggins. They aren’t going to take Smart #1 overall.
0- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:19am #866905
juves4783Participantabsolutely right. i think they go wiggins. his handles make you believe he can be a mismatch nightmare 2g in the nba. him and giannis would be a sick nucleus with knight, henson, sanders, middleton, illy supporting them.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:19am #866802
juves4783Participantabsolutely right. i think they go wiggins. his handles make you believe he can be a mismatch nightmare 2g in the nba. him and giannis would be a sick nucleus with knight, henson, sanders, middleton, illy supporting them.
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- Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 8:03pm #866723
GrandmamaParticipantGiannis isn’t going to keep them from taking either Parker or Wiggins. They aren’t going to take Smart #1 overall.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 8:07pm #866624
he_gets_bucketsParticipantI think Parker would be the best fit for them. They have a solid front line for the next few years in Henson and Sanders, so no point in hindering their development or Embiids by drafting him, I dont really think they need another combo guard with Mayo and Knight on the books. Giannis is a strong athlete and defender, and would be a good tandem with Parker. I think Wiggins plays a lot like Giannis and their strengths are too similar to warrant taking Andrew over Jabari for the Bucks. Jabaris shooting is just too valuable for a team like this with bigs like Henson and Sanders, as well as Antetokounpo
0 - Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 8:07pm #866727
he_gets_bucketsParticipantI think Parker would be the best fit for them. They have a solid front line for the next few years in Henson and Sanders, so no point in hindering their development or Embiids by drafting him, I dont really think they need another combo guard with Mayo and Knight on the books. Giannis is a strong athlete and defender, and would be a good tandem with Parker. I think Wiggins plays a lot like Giannis and their strengths are too similar to warrant taking Andrew over Jabari for the Bucks. Jabaris shooting is just too valuable for a team like this with bigs like Henson and Sanders, as well as Antetokounpo
0 - Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 8:08pm #866622
jwall1ParticipantI think they could pick Smart at #1. They are in desperate need of a pg and Smart would fit the bill well. Now, if Embiid keeps up this level and impresses in pre-draft workouts, the Bucks should undoubtedly pick him. Milwaukee is one of the smallest markets and it is literally impossible to attract a star free agent there, so I think taking a gamble on a potential allstar center would be the best move. Larry Sanders’ days in Milwaukee are limited IMO, so I doubt he would be a factor in deciding whether or not to pick Embiid.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 8:08pm #866725
jwall1ParticipantI think they could pick Smart at #1. They are in desperate need of a pg and Smart would fit the bill well. Now, if Embiid keeps up this level and impresses in pre-draft workouts, the Bucks should undoubtedly pick him. Milwaukee is one of the smallest markets and it is literally impossible to attract a star free agent there, so I think taking a gamble on a potential allstar center would be the best move. Larry Sanders’ days in Milwaukee are limited IMO, so I doubt he would be a factor in deciding whether or not to pick Embiid.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 8:24pm #866634
MopgrassParticipantI agree, Embiid could be an excellent move. They do need a PG though. Maybe they can trade down a few spots. You know some team who already has a PG is salivating over Embiid, Parker, or Wiggins and would throw something extra the Bucks way.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 8:24pm #866737
MopgrassParticipantI agree, Embiid could be an excellent move. They do need a PG though. Maybe they can trade down a few spots. You know some team who already has a PG is salivating over Embiid, Parker, or Wiggins and would throw something extra the Bucks way.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 10:05pm #866652
imAboutDatActionParticipantlol no.NO CHANCE they select him with the 1st pick. the owner wanted to win now before the season but reality has set in and ownership has realize this team is far away from contending. they will not pass up Wiggins or Embiid. Smart isnt a safer pick then either and wont help you win more games than either of them.
having the greek freak wont affect their decision. they’ll pair up the two if they have the choice to. you’ll have a REALLY athletic backcourt and the potential to be an elite defensive backcourt.
Wiggins is having a good year ( some think otherwise since he;s not living up to the "lebron" comparisons/hype) and is playing even better right now. i really believe by the time draft comes around and Wiggins finishes the season like he’s playing now,theres NO DOUBT he goes #1.
the two way ceiling on him is unreal.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 01/29/2014 - 10:05pm #866754
imAboutDatActionParticipantlol no.NO CHANCE they select him with the 1st pick. the owner wanted to win now before the season but reality has set in and ownership has realize this team is far away from contending. they will not pass up Wiggins or Embiid. Smart isnt a safer pick then either and wont help you win more games than either of them.
having the greek freak wont affect their decision. they’ll pair up the two if they have the choice to. you’ll have a REALLY athletic backcourt and the potential to be an elite defensive backcourt.
Wiggins is having a good year ( some think otherwise since he;s not living up to the "lebron" comparisons/hype) and is playing even better right now. i really believe by the time draft comes around and Wiggins finishes the season like he’s playing now,theres NO DOUBT he goes #1.
the two way ceiling on him is unreal.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 3:33am #866675
jaycee24ParticipantIf they don’t get the top pick I think Smart could make sense over Wiggins…but you better be damn sure he’s your guy. I think him paired with Knight in the backcourt would actually be pretty lethal. But honestly I think Giannis could use another 2 years or so with limited minutes and he’ll always be an asset so why not go with the talent in Parker/Wiggins? I think Milwaukee would be better served not worrying about winning now because they have an awesome chance to put together a really talented roster filled with assets
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 3:33am #866777
jaycee24ParticipantIf they don’t get the top pick I think Smart could make sense over Wiggins…but you better be damn sure he’s your guy. I think him paired with Knight in the backcourt would actually be pretty lethal. But honestly I think Giannis could use another 2 years or so with limited minutes and he’ll always be an asset so why not go with the talent in Parker/Wiggins? I think Milwaukee would be better served not worrying about winning now because they have an awesome chance to put together a really talented roster filled with assets
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 3:59am #866681
AmiableBaller34ParticipantHas Brandon Knight really performed that poorly for the Bucks to the point where he’s not even getting mentioned? he’s still only 22 years old, and is easily the Bucks best player right now with the exception of maybe Henson. I don’t think the Bucks will give up on him that quickly, and certainly not for Smart.
The Bucks are dead last in offense this year, and are oddly one of the worst rebounding team in the league: Parker would help with both of those, and would be the obvious pick for the Bucks. He’s going to be able to score and rebound, and has the potential to be a #1 or #2 scoring option, and I just don’t see how the Bucks could pass that up for a player like Smart. Jabari would also fit into their plans to win now (if that is truly what they are trying to do), and would actualy bring some excitement to the team.
0- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 4:26am #866687
B-ball fanParticipantKnight is not close to being better than Henson. He is shooting well now, but he should a SG. He is still a terrible passer who is one of the worst ball handling pgs in the game.
The Bucks always say they want to win-now and they always draft high upside players in the draft. Larry Sanders, Tobias Harris, John Henson, and Giannis Antetokounmpo were all high upside guys. Giannis certainly wasn’t a safe pick, even though the Bucks were doing everything they could to "win-now." Marcus Smart doesn’t seem like a guy they would pick. I would guess Embiid is at the top of their board based upon past history, as they seem to value the eye-test more than college production.
When ever a GM or owner says "win-now," their fan base is screwed. It is almost always an excuse to just make bad moves for the GM’s short term job security at the expense of building a contending team. The Bucks management is incompetent, but they are very fortunate that they draft well, because pretty much all contending teams aquire or develop young talent, even if they just use such talent as trade bait.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 4:26am #866789
B-ball fanParticipantKnight is not close to being better than Henson. He is shooting well now, but he should a SG. He is still a terrible passer who is one of the worst ball handling pgs in the game.
The Bucks always say they want to win-now and they always draft high upside players in the draft. Larry Sanders, Tobias Harris, John Henson, and Giannis Antetokounmpo were all high upside guys. Giannis certainly wasn’t a safe pick, even though the Bucks were doing everything they could to "win-now." Marcus Smart doesn’t seem like a guy they would pick. I would guess Embiid is at the top of their board based upon past history, as they seem to value the eye-test more than college production.
When ever a GM or owner says "win-now," their fan base is screwed. It is almost always an excuse to just make bad moves for the GM’s short term job security at the expense of building a contending team. The Bucks management is incompetent, but they are very fortunate that they draft well, because pretty much all contending teams aquire or develop young talent, even if they just use such talent as trade bait.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 3:59am #866783
AmiableBaller34ParticipantHas Brandon Knight really performed that poorly for the Bucks to the point where he’s not even getting mentioned? he’s still only 22 years old, and is easily the Bucks best player right now with the exception of maybe Henson. I don’t think the Bucks will give up on him that quickly, and certainly not for Smart.
The Bucks are dead last in offense this year, and are oddly one of the worst rebounding team in the league: Parker would help with both of those, and would be the obvious pick for the Bucks. He’s going to be able to score and rebound, and has the potential to be a #1 or #2 scoring option, and I just don’t see how the Bucks could pass that up for a player like Smart. Jabari would also fit into their plans to win now (if that is truly what they are trying to do), and would actualy bring some excitement to the team.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 4:35am #866690
JoeWolf1I’d imagine they’d trade down or draft Embiid, Wiggins, or Parker and trade him to the team that drafted Smart with maybe an asset or salary dump.
Having the first pick is a huge luxury, and they can still get Smart ( if they choose ) and a little more if they take the BPA. Orlando drafted Chris Webber and traded him for Penny. It’s happened before, it can happen again.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 4:35am #866793
JoeWolf1I’d imagine they’d trade down or draft Embiid, Wiggins, or Parker and trade him to the team that drafted Smart with maybe an asset or salary dump.
Having the first pick is a huge luxury, and they can still get Smart ( if they choose ) and a little more if they take the BPA. Orlando drafted Chris Webber and traded him for Penny. It’s happened before, it can happen again.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 4:55am #866698
jaycee24ParticipantI’ve been a Knight supporter since he came to Detroit I think there’s no doubt he’s going to keep getting better and better he’s just an elite kind of individual. He has that same constant humble pursuit towards improving KD has. Give him 3 years and he’ll be a very solid NBA point guard he’s still just barely 22. Imagine the athleticism they could put out there with a lineup of him, Giannis, maybe Parker/Wiggins, John Henson and Larry Sanders running the court together then imagine that 4 years down the road.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 4:55am #866801
jaycee24ParticipantI’ve been a Knight supporter since he came to Detroit I think there’s no doubt he’s going to keep getting better and better he’s just an elite kind of individual. He has that same constant humble pursuit towards improving KD has. Give him 3 years and he’ll be a very solid NBA point guard he’s still just barely 22. Imagine the athleticism they could put out there with a lineup of him, Giannis, maybe Parker/Wiggins, John Henson and Larry Sanders running the court together then imagine that 4 years down the road.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:09am #866704
machu46ParticipantAs a Bucks fan, I highly doubt we get the top pick anyways. But if we do, and we spend it on Marcus Smart, I think that would finally be the last straw in trying to keep up my support for this team/organization. If we end up with the 5th pick, then I’d be okay with Smart, but I’ll be pretty upset if we don’t come away with Embiid, Wiggins, Exum, or Parker. I prefer Embiid, Wiggins, and Exum, but I could at least defend taking Parker, even if I’m not personally as high on him as others. Smart would just be a big mistake IMO.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:09am #866807
machu46ParticipantAs a Bucks fan, I highly doubt we get the top pick anyways. But if we do, and we spend it on Marcus Smart, I think that would finally be the last straw in trying to keep up my support for this team/organization. If we end up with the 5th pick, then I’d be okay with Smart, but I’ll be pretty upset if we don’t come away with Embiid, Wiggins, Exum, or Parker. I prefer Embiid, Wiggins, and Exum, but I could at least defend taking Parker, even if I’m not personally as high on him as others. Smart would just be a big mistake IMO.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:14am #866708
TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipantreasons mentioned. Why not draft the BPA and then trade for him especially because he wouldn’t otherwise be picked before #4 and that is a little bit of a stretch.
I do think that the Bucks wouldn’t take Embiid 1rst overall, like I believe most teams would, unless it was to trade him. Embiid won’t be better than Larry Sanders for at least two years and Sanders trade value is a lot lower than Embiid’s value would be at the 1 spot. Plus the Bucks would still have to consider themselves in rebuild mode if they took Embiid or Wiggins. From what I understand about their ownership they hate the "idea" of rebuilding. I think Parker would be their preferential choice but I actually believe Wiggins is their best option. With Ersan, Henson and a healthy Sanders I think Giannis playing 30 minutes at the 3 and Wiggins 18 minutes at the 3 and 10 at the 2 spot is a great look. That team with a solid point guard like a Jameer Nelson or Jarret Jack is a 6th seed in the East. Plus you can get one of those guys for a few second rounders this offseason.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:14am #866811
TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipantreasons mentioned. Why not draft the BPA and then trade for him especially because he wouldn’t otherwise be picked before #4 and that is a little bit of a stretch.
I do think that the Bucks wouldn’t take Embiid 1rst overall, like I believe most teams would, unless it was to trade him. Embiid won’t be better than Larry Sanders for at least two years and Sanders trade value is a lot lower than Embiid’s value would be at the 1 spot. Plus the Bucks would still have to consider themselves in rebuild mode if they took Embiid or Wiggins. From what I understand about their ownership they hate the "idea" of rebuilding. I think Parker would be their preferential choice but I actually believe Wiggins is their best option. With Ersan, Henson and a healthy Sanders I think Giannis playing 30 minutes at the 3 and Wiggins 18 minutes at the 3 and 10 at the 2 spot is a great look. That team with a solid point guard like a Jameer Nelson or Jarret Jack is a 6th seed in the East. Plus you can get one of those guys for a few second rounders this offseason.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:45am #866859
Moon RiverParticipantI agree with machu46. Even with the best odds, I doubt the Bucks will get the first pick. They are just historically snake bitten like that. But if they do like Smart, maybe falling out of the #1 pick will be a blessing in disguise.
I like Joe Wolf’s idea of a trade. Also love he gets buckets idea of Parker. The Bucks need a consistent scorer and think Parker will give them that.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:45am #866757
Moon RiverParticipantI agree with machu46. Even with the best odds, I doubt the Bucks will get the first pick. They are just historically snake bitten like that. But if they do like Smart, maybe falling out of the #1 pick will be a blessing in disguise.
I like Joe Wolf’s idea of a trade. Also love he gets buckets idea of Parker. The Bucks need a consistent scorer and think Parker will give them that.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 7:04am #866869
KHAM83ParticipantWhere have you seen that they really like Smart? Being a small market team, I think they swing for the potential star center. We know they cannot attract FAs, so if you can only afford one star, you get the most impact out of a star center. Wiggins is a guy in a few years you’ll be heading rumors of him wanting to go to a larger market and such.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 7:04am #866767
KHAM83ParticipantWhere have you seen that they really like Smart? Being a small market team, I think they swing for the potential star center. We know they cannot attract FAs, so if you can only afford one star, you get the most impact out of a star center. Wiggins is a guy in a few years you’ll be heading rumors of him wanting to go to a larger market and such.
0- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 7:19am #866873
machu46ParticipantSam Amico I think posted an article where he mentioned that he had heard that the Bucks were enamored with Smart, but I agree with you. John Hammond’s track record is that he swings for the fences in the 1st round. Joe Alexander, Jennings, Tobias, Larry, Henson, and Giannis. They were all high upside guys. Some worked out better than others (…effing Joe Alexander…), but my bets would be that he sticks with that approach and has Embiid, Wiggins, and Exum at the top of his draft board.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 7:19am #866771
machu46ParticipantSam Amico I think posted an article where he mentioned that he had heard that the Bucks were enamored with Smart, but I agree with you. John Hammond’s track record is that he swings for the fences in the 1st round. Joe Alexander, Jennings, Tobias, Larry, Henson, and Giannis. They were all high upside guys. Some worked out better than others (…effing Joe Alexander…), but my bets would be that he sticks with that approach and has Embiid, Wiggins, and Exum at the top of his draft board.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 8:07am #866895
Bmore_DCParticipantIf the bucks get the first pick and don’t take Parker , Wiggins or Embiib , the GM should be fired that very second the pick is in. I like Smart a lot but he is in the mix with Randle, Exum, etc.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 8:07am #866792
Bmore_DCParticipantIf the bucks get the first pick and don’t take Parker , Wiggins or Embiib , the GM should be fired that very second the pick is in. I like Smart a lot but he is in the mix with Randle, Exum, etc.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:32am #866911
jmarg25ParticipantYou can’t assume Giannis is going to be a star. He has the potential, but that can’t keep you from picking Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid or Jabari Parker, three of some of the most intriguing prospects I’ve ever seen.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 9:32am #866808
jmarg25ParticipantYou can’t assume Giannis is going to be a star. He has the potential, but that can’t keep you from picking Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid or Jabari Parker, three of some of the most intriguing prospects I’ve ever seen.
0- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 10:12am #866828
B-ball fanParticipantGiannis is pretty versatile. Probably he is best at SF long-run and I doubt that his position will be changed by an aquisition of Parker or Wiggins. If the Bucks get Wiggins or Parker, than they will have to find a way to get them to coexist with Giannis. Giannis, for better or worse, is the future face of the Bucks franchise and, while he has a long way to go developing his handle and footwork to reach his potential, he has every bit as much long-term potential as Wiggins and Parker.
Giannis is still growing into his body and it shows on the court sometimes, but he has the mentality of a superstar. His combination of coordination, court sense and physical tools for a player his age are only matched by KG, KD, and Anthony Davis among active players. Giannis is truly a unique talent and is the only untouchable player on the Bucks roster.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 10:12am #866931
B-ball fanParticipantGiannis is pretty versatile. Probably he is best at SF long-run and I doubt that his position will be changed by an aquisition of Parker or Wiggins. If the Bucks get Wiggins or Parker, than they will have to find a way to get them to coexist with Giannis. Giannis, for better or worse, is the future face of the Bucks franchise and, while he has a long way to go developing his handle and footwork to reach his potential, he has every bit as much long-term potential as Wiggins and Parker.
Giannis is still growing into his body and it shows on the court sometimes, but he has the mentality of a superstar. His combination of coordination, court sense and physical tools for a player his age are only matched by KG, KD, and Anthony Davis among active players. Giannis is truly a unique talent and is the only untouchable player on the Bucks roster.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:42pm #867146
NtsapParticipantIf they got number #1 then pair sanders with Zaza or Mayo for a couple of 1st.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 5:42pm #867042
NtsapParticipantIf they got number #1 then pair sanders with Zaza or Mayo for a couple of 1st.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:06pm #867156
MUbballfanParticipantI think taking Smart would be a very dumb move. Take the best player available, don’t draft for need. They should consider Wiggins, Embiid or Parker, and no one else.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 01/30/2014 - 6:06pm #867052
MUbballfanParticipantI think taking Smart would be a very dumb move. Take the best player available, don’t draft for need. They should consider Wiggins, Embiid or Parker, and no one else.
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