[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Brooklyn fans rejoice as you don’t have to commit 125 million for a combination of Allen Crabbe and Tyler Johnson. Both the Heat and the Blazers matched their offer sheets. I understand the Johnson one as the Heat just lost Wade but the Blazers though? Really? After just signing Evan Turner? I just don’t think it’s wise for them to pay 75 Million (!!!) for a guy they will play only 18-22 MPG.

 

Well at least the most pitiful team in the NBA won’t get even more pitiful. I actually find myself cheering for the Nets and their development given just how bad their situation is. My plan for them:

 

1) Try to get the most out of Brook Lopez. As much as 1st rounders are coveted in this league now, Thad Young for a 20th pick is a LAZY trade. Thad Young, a modern day stretch-4 whose skillset is super on demand just nets you a 20th pick??? C’mon now. Not to mention they also traded away Mason Plumlee for the 26th pick. Much like Thad, Plumlee’s skillset is super on-demand in today’s game. Bogut-like passing with defense, mobility and ball-handling?? How could you let that guy go for a 26th pick????

2) Develop Caris Levert. I may be the only huge Caris Levert supporter left in this site,especially after his hype died down to injuries, but how can you deny that skillset? 6’7 SG with a prototypical SG body, handles of a point guard, smooth and quick jump shot, rebounding skills and INSANE passing ability. Ball-hawk defense and is super aggresive at attacking the basket. Should I go on???

He’s not Ben McClemore or JR Smith who suddenley disappears at some parts in games. Even if he has a sweet jumper, he is an attack-first point guard who could draw defenses with ease and put huge amounts of pressure on them. Please Kenny Atkinson, make me look good and give this guy minutes!!! Please!! Nothing would make me more happier this season (for real).

3) See if you could develop more young guns in the roster. I like Chis McCollough. He has that Nerlens Noel knack for stripping and intercepting the ball for a big man. He also has a good stroke, not to mention elite athleticsm. Thomas Robinson has proven that when given playing time, he will produce. If he gets around 28-30 MPG I assure you he will grab at least 10 rebounds a game. RHJ too I see is part of their future plans. Excellent defender. Don’t let Trevor Booker, as good a role player he is, steal too much minutes from these guys.

4) Now that you’ved saved 125 million unintentionally, look at next year’s free agent class and see if you could grab a mid-tier borderline all-star player (or top-tier if they are willing). Westbrook is a long shot, but it’s worth a try right? Hayward, Milsap, Ibaka, Gallinari and Holiday are all unrestricted free agents that are way better options than Crabbe and Johnson.

Bottomline is, as weird as this sounds, Brooklyn deserves a better team, and better management at that. They have a hell of an arena and a dope concept on their brand designs. Black and White jerseys are always gold for me, and they have that MSG-like theatre lights that make every game feel extra-special. Just, please, Sean Marks, get that Billy King stench out of there and make a good team.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 So the heat match 50 mill for Tyler Johnson but won’t give 50 to Wade. Wow Pat Riley is just wow.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

 This. I’m trying to figure out how you won’t pay Wade what he’s asking, but then you tie that same money or more up into Johnson, Ellington, Derrick Williams, and James Johnson. Sure that’s more guys, but outside of Johnson and his potential those are more like end of the bench guys or guys that get minutes on bad teams.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

 This. I’m trying to figure out how you won’t pay Wade what he’s asking, but then you tie that same money or more up into Johnson, Ellington, Derrick Williams, and James Johnson. Sure that’s more guys, but outside of Johnson and his potential those are more like end of the bench guys or guys that get minutes on bad teams.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

 This. I’m trying to figure out how you won’t pay Wade what he’s asking, but then you tie that same money or more up into Johnson, Ellington, Derrick Williams, and James Johnson. Sure that’s more guys, but outside of Johnson and his potential those are more like end of the bench guys or guys that get minutes on bad teams.

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 So the heat match 50 mill for Tyler Johnson but won’t give 50 to Wade. Wow Pat Riley is just wow.

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 So the heat match 50 mill for Tyler Johnson but won’t give 50 to Wade. Wow Pat Riley is just wow.

[sweaterflexParticipant]

The Nets’savings are short-lived, I would bet they are about to offer more restricted free agents, I bet they offer two contracts between Jared Sullinger, Mo Harkless, and Terrence Jones. I can’t imagine the Blazers matching on Harkless, and the Celtics renounced rights on Sullinger. 

[sweaterflexParticipant]

The Nets’savings are short-lived, I would bet they are about to offer more restricted free agents, I bet they offer two contracts between Jared Sullinger, Mo Harkless, and Terrence Jones. I can’t imagine the Blazers matching on Harkless, and the Celtics renounced rights on Sullinger. 

[sweaterflexParticipant]

The Nets’savings are short-lived, I would bet they are about to offer more restricted free agents, I bet they offer two contracts between Jared Sullinger, Mo Harkless, and Terrence Jones. I can’t imagine the Blazers matching on Harkless, and the Celtics renounced rights on Sullinger. 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 I would build around Chris McCollough and Zeke Whitehead. Them two are really good prospects 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 I would build around Chris McCollough and Zeke Whitehead. Them two are really good prospects 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 I would build around Chris McCollough and Zeke Whitehead. Them two are really good prospects 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Crabbe would have been a great signing. Y’all missed out. Too bad, I wanted to see him start. Blazers know their guards, they really didn’t have to match. 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Crabbe would have been a great signing. Y’all missed out. Too bad, I wanted to see him start. Blazers know their guards, they really didn’t have to match. 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Crabbe would have been a great signing. Y’all missed out. Too bad, I wanted to see him start. Blazers know their guards, they really didn’t have to match. 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Yeah Blazers are Haters for that

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Yeah Blazers are Haters for that

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Yeah Blazers are Haters for that

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

 They need his shooting, he will still get a ton of minutes. I personally didn’t want them to pay him. I would rather have Henderson on his money

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

 They need his shooting, he will still get a ton of minutes. I personally didn’t want them to pay him. I would rather have Henderson on his money

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

 They need his shooting, he will still get a ton of minutes. I personally didn’t want them to pay him. I would rather have Henderson on his money

[The GoatParticipant]

I agree with Don’t Take me Fo…

Mo Harkless and TErrence Jones are still restricted FAs, I’d throw some money their way

I see they signed Greivous Vasquez and Lin, so with RHJ, Levert, Whitehead, Lopez and McCulloch, they should be 15-20 win territory bad rather than all time futility record bad.

[RollingWaveParticipant]

 The Rockets didn’t offer him a qualifing offer.

 

[RollingWaveParticipant]

 The Rockets didn’t offer him a qualifing offer.

 

[RollingWaveParticipant]

 The Rockets didn’t offer him a qualifing offer.

 

[The GoatParticipant]

I agree with Don’t Take me Fo…

Mo Harkless and TErrence Jones are still restricted FAs, I’d throw some money their way

I see they signed Greivous Vasquez and Lin, so with RHJ, Levert, Whitehead, Lopez and McCulloch, they should be 15-20 win territory bad rather than all time futility record bad.

[The GoatParticipant]

I agree with Don’t Take me Fo…

Mo Harkless and TErrence Jones are still restricted FAs, I’d throw some money their way

I see they signed Greivous Vasquez and Lin, so with RHJ, Levert, Whitehead, Lopez and McCulloch, they should be 15-20 win territory bad rather than all time futility record bad.

[shug94Participant]

They don’t have their pick. There is no value in being bad. It makes sense to sign good young players to big deals for the next three years until they get all their picks back. If at that point they have developed some good players, then that is great. But they need to shoot for the playoffs, not the lottery.

Allen Crabbe is a player. I am disappointed that the Blazers matched, because it would have been great to see him put this team on his back and help raise it from terrible to mediocre. He would have been an NBA Most Improved candidate.

[shug94Participant]

They don’t have their pick. There is no value in being bad. It makes sense to sign good young players to big deals for the next three years until they get all their picks back. If at that point they have developed some good players, then that is great. But they need to shoot for the playoffs, not the lottery.

Allen Crabbe is a player. I am disappointed that the Blazers matched, because it would have been great to see him put this team on his back and help raise it from terrible to mediocre. He would have been an NBA Most Improved candidate.

[mcbaileyParticipant]

 There’s also no value in overpaying average players on the off chance that they might surprise you. You can take a chance with other young players for a lot less.

[mcbaileyParticipant]

 There’s also no value in overpaying average players on the off chance that they might surprise you. You can take a chance with other young players for a lot less.

[RollingWaveParticipant]

Overpaying below average players who are much older with no chance of improving, which they are basically forced to do right now.

That money is gone anyway due to the salary floor, if they spend it or not regardless of what the nominal number is they give they are effectively paying Grevis Vazques / Luis Scola of the world for the same money .

With Crabbe and Johnson they at least have a lineup that kinda make sense . with a decent P&R PG + 3 shooter with some degree of athletcism with Brook Lopez.  Those 2 are at least young enough where it’s possible they are better players in 2-3 years .

Now their starting lineup is something along the lines of Lin / Kilpatrick (who’s cool as a backup, but is starting.) / RHJ or Boj / Booker or RHJ or Boj / Brooks. with zero depth. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RollingWaveParticipant]

Overpaying below average players who are much older with no chance of improving, which they are basically forced to do right now.

That money is gone anyway due to the salary floor, if they spend it or not regardless of what the nominal number is they give they are effectively paying Grevis Vazques / Luis Scola of the world for the same money .

With Crabbe and Johnson they at least have a lineup that kinda make sense . with a decent P&R PG + 3 shooter with some degree of athletcism with Brook Lopez.  Those 2 are at least young enough where it’s possible they are better players in 2-3 years .

Now their starting lineup is something along the lines of Lin / Kilpatrick (who’s cool as a backup, but is starting.) / RHJ or Boj / Booker or RHJ or Boj / Brooks. with zero depth. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RollingWaveParticipant]

Overpaying below average players who are much older with no chance of improving, which they are basically forced to do right now.

That money is gone anyway due to the salary floor, if they spend it or not regardless of what the nominal number is they give they are effectively paying Grevis Vazques / Luis Scola of the world for the same money .

With Crabbe and Johnson they at least have a lineup that kinda make sense . with a decent P&R PG + 3 shooter with some degree of athletcism with Brook Lopez.  Those 2 are at least young enough where it’s possible they are better players in 2-3 years .

Now their starting lineup is something along the lines of Lin / Kilpatrick (who’s cool as a backup, but is starting.) / RHJ or Boj / Booker or RHJ or Boj / Brooks. with zero depth. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mcbaileyParticipant]

 There’s also no value in overpaying average players on the off chance that they might surprise you. You can take a chance with other young players for a lot less.

[dudo670Participant]

 I’m all for being against overpaying players but in the nets case it really doesn’t matter, they don’t have a first rounder the next two years so there’s no value in being bad. Beyond that if it’s a 4 year deal that means only 2 years left so it’s not like they are locked down long term while preventing themselves from being truly terrible.

[dudo670Participant]

 I’m all for being against overpaying players but in the nets case it really doesn’t matter, they don’t have a first rounder the next two years so there’s no value in being bad. Beyond that if it’s a 4 year deal that means only 2 years left so it’s not like they are locked down long term while preventing themselves from being truly terrible.

[dudo670Participant]

 I’m all for being against overpaying players but in the nets case it really doesn’t matter, they don’t have a first rounder the next two years so there’s no value in being bad. Beyond that if it’s a 4 year deal that means only 2 years left so it’s not like they are locked down long term while preventing themselves from being truly terrible.

[shug94Participant]

They don’t have their pick. There is no value in being bad. It makes sense to sign good young players to big deals for the next three years until they get all their picks back. If at that point they have developed some good players, then that is great. But they need to shoot for the playoffs, not the lottery.

Allen Crabbe is a player. I am disappointed that the Blazers matched, because it would have been great to see him put this team on his back and help raise it from terrible to mediocre. He would have been an NBA Most Improved candidate.

[RollingWaveParticipant]

It’s plenty evident that even for 3rd teir talent they need to overpay and STILL probably have to pick on the left overs, with Crabbe and Johnson it’s at least guys that’s are desirable at certain price points, now they’re going to have to get guys that are not very desirable at ANY price point.

They’re only attraction right now is that they can offer playing time and probably a starting spot, that make sense if the target is someone in their 20s (preferably before 25.)  but those guys are UFA very very rarely. and for RFA there’s no real way to get them WITHOUT overpaying (and as the situation now shows, even overpaying doesn’t really cut it.)

They need at least one more 2/3 wing type badly to even be funcitonal, if Kilpatrick is hurt right now, who the hell are they even playing at 2?

There’s no value at all in losing for them, if anything it has very negative value .  and now they have very limited plausible path to not totally suck.  

 

 

 

[RollingWaveParticipant]

It’s plenty evident that even for 3rd teir talent they need to overpay and STILL probably have to pick on the left overs, with Crabbe and Johnson it’s at least guys that’s are desirable at certain price points, now they’re going to have to get guys that are not very desirable at ANY price point.

They’re only attraction right now is that they can offer playing time and probably a starting spot, that make sense if the target is someone in their 20s (preferably before 25.)  but those guys are UFA very very rarely. and for RFA there’s no real way to get them WITHOUT overpaying (and as the situation now shows, even overpaying doesn’t really cut it.)

They need at least one more 2/3 wing type badly to even be funcitonal, if Kilpatrick is hurt right now, who the hell are they even playing at 2?

There’s no value at all in losing for them, if anything it has very negative value .  and now they have very limited plausible path to not totally suck.  

 

 

 

[RollingWaveParticipant]

It’s plenty evident that even for 3rd teir talent they need to overpay and STILL probably have to pick on the left overs, with Crabbe and Johnson it’s at least guys that’s are desirable at certain price points, now they’re going to have to get guys that are not very desirable at ANY price point.

They’re only attraction right now is that they can offer playing time and probably a starting spot, that make sense if the target is someone in their 20s (preferably before 25.)  but those guys are UFA very very rarely. and for RFA there’s no real way to get them WITHOUT overpaying (and as the situation now shows, even overpaying doesn’t really cut it.)

They need at least one more 2/3 wing type badly to even be funcitonal, if Kilpatrick is hurt right now, who the hell are they even playing at 2?

There’s no value at all in losing for them, if anything it has very negative value .  and now they have very limited plausible path to not totally suck.  

 

 

 

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