PERSONALLY I WOULD LOVE TO SEE them go at it again since the 3 times they meet up during aau brandon clearly got the best of him when they both were seniors ( not walls 5th year)
i would take Wall 99 out of 99.1 times , i like Jennings but i see Wall as a potential franchise player
i respect your opnion but i ask why...evcerything wall did jennings did and better when he was in hs..when they both were seniors in jennings senior year jennings was better during the season against better comp and head to head 3 different times...and jennings was player of the year that year...if jennings would have stayed for a fifth year he would have gotten player of the year the next year also..also wall only has jennings by a inch if that (watching them talking and standing next to each other after the game)
statitistics are one thing about a player , and Jennings had great stats , but when i look at John Wall i say this guy will be a star, why? IDK there is just something special i see about this guy, that no B.S. i havent seen in any player since LeBron(not a comparison)maybe its his Impact on the game or leadership quality
from 5 recruiting sites
In the Spotlight: John Wall
Position: Point Guard
Hometown: Raleigh, NC
College Options: Baylor, Kansas, Kentucky, Memphis, NC State, etc
Extremely fast with the ball in his hands… Gets up and down the court in a hurry, leading the fast break.
Does a great job changing directions, keeping his defender off balance and on his heels.
ATHLETE – He can flat out fly and he finishes well with both hands around the rim. He can really elevate and flush it down.
Has a real knack for getting into the paint and penetrating past his defender.
Great cross over dribble (both left to right and right to left)
Shows a real burst when he accelerates; he’s able to turn it into another gear and leave his defender behind.
Very solid left hesitation move that he uses to freeze his defender before he explodes left.
At his best in the open court, but showed signs that he’s able to orchestrate and run the half-court offense as well
Great court vision.
Super quick with nimble feet
Very flat jump shot that needs improving - His form needs some work… He has to be able to hit the mid range jumper and step out passed the three point line…Neither of which, John can do with consistency right now.
Needs to be more assertive and go to the ball, not wait for his teammates to bring it to him.
Played zero defense and didn’t work hard on the defensive end of the court. (it was an all-star game)
John will definitely benefit from a year in college because he needs to add muscle. His natural build is of a thin frame; however John needs to add muscle to his upper body.
Player Comparison: Reminds me of Jamal Crawford…both his handle and frame; however John is a much more natural point guard.
There isn’t a doubt in my mind that John Wall has what it takes to be a solid NBA player. He can fly up the court with the ball in his hands and he’s phenomenal leading the break. He has great court vision and he doesn’t mind giving up the rock, or he can emphatically throw it down with either hand. His speed and quickness are evident, and he does a great job changing speeds and getting to the bucket.
It is imperative that John becomes a more consistent outside shooter. He needs to be able to knock down the jumper off the bounce and off the pass, which he’s unable to do right now. He also needs to improve his range, which will force the defense to play up on him, not sag back, making it easier for him to penetrate to the bucket. John also needs to commit himself to the defensive end and take pride in shutting down the opposition. He has great foot speed, but there were plenty of times that his feet were glued to the ground and thus he was beaten off the dribble.
The bottom line is that John has all the physical tools, talent and athleticism that will translate as his game progresses to the collegiate level and ultimately the pros. Look for him to be a one-and-done college player before entering the draft.
Position: Point Guard
Ht: 6-1, Wt: 170
Hometown: Lakewood, CA
Class: HS Senior at Oak Hill Academy
College: Arizona (verbal)
AAU: SoCal All Stars
Age: September 23rd, 1989
Lefty point guard with a spectacular handle… Stronger going to his left, but comfortable going right as well.
Superb court vision, consistently throwing thread the needle passes.
Has a flare to his game that excites anyone who watches him play.
Very quick feet defensively. With a commitment and coaching, he has the tools to become a terrific defender.
Amazing athlete that can really elevate when he gets to the basket.
Excels in transition by using his incredible speed to lead the fast break.
Has exceptional quickness that very few players’ posses.
HUGE upside with a ton of talent.
Needs to develop a more consistent outside jumper.
Has no medium range game. Its deep 3 balls or nothing.
Brandon has to get stronger. His body has not fully developed, but he’s going to need to spend quality time in the weight room.
Very emotional on the court. He’s so advanced that his teammates have trouble catching his passes, and his frustration tends to show on the court.
Gambles way too much on defense, allowing penetration.
Brandon is one of the most exciting point guards I have ever seen play at the HS level. His handle, court vision, and flare make him worth the price of admission every time he steps on the court. He has all the intangibles needed, as long as he’s able to keep his emotions in check. The foot speed is there, but he only seems to lock players up when he gets challenged. The college level will enable Brandon to work on some areas that need improvement, mainly his inconsistent jump shot, strength and learning to use his quick foot speed to become a more consistent lock down defender. Without a doubt, look for Brandon to be a lottery pick in the 2010 NBA draft.
Player Comparison: Kenny Anderson
thats the same way alot of peopel feel about jennings...could be a nice dwill chris paul thing in the pros....alot of people on here say way just cuz they dont liek jennings or what he did overseas plus people tend to remeber the latest..iremeber jennings as a senior though and every player put ahead of him he destroyed with pretty much ease..even when he matched up against avery bradly who wall says gives him trouble all the time and was voted the best defender in the class it was no contest..one thing fans overrate about wall is is defense..hes actually not that good of a defender and alot of times he doesnt really try to play it..i dont really understand why when he tries he doesnt do a good job because he is very quick..one thing i did notice is he doesnt get real low on defense
I'll have to give it to Jennings based off the fact he a better scorer,and he's played against grown men
point being most people are baseing wall off of youtube clips.....after watching 13 games of each player jennings comes out better...and i cant find one person who has seen wall more then youtube clips or more then one game who even makes a compelling arguement for wall
hey jakarii i read ya'lls report on the jennings vs wall scouting report..nice...why does hoopscoop make you pay to be a member though?..ya'll should make it free..lol..but yeah youre right most scouts do see jennings as being better ..uncfan23 covers the wordofgod and nc basketball and has a write up time time in the news and observer from when wall was a 8th grader till now. he even agrees jennings is better...i personally havent seen awhole lot of either except for the pangos tournament when they played against each other( whew if people would have seen that game youd see aloooot of people saying jennings instead of wall)..what tournaments is hoopscoop covering this summer?
nice we probably were at the same games at least once then..which games were u at?..josh we will be covering all the major events..im assigned to the double pump and run in cali on the 9th...then the addidas big time out in las vegas..some of the other writers will be at the other tournaments..then later ill be at the bob gibbons tourney in raleigh again
are the ones i can recall
I'll take John Wall....it is a no brainer. Jennings is overhyped.
thats writers who think that gms dont..i dont need to be told whos better ive scouted bout seen them play against eacg other..jennings would be projected number one also if he played the next year..they both are in the same class..wall wasnt projected number one last year when he was a senior at the same time as jennings..yet jennings was projected in the lotto so whats youre point?..ive talked to different scouts college and nba and the majority of them say jennings...of course fans and some writers say wall because hes the latest hyped player and you tube clips..theres nothing he does that jennings doesnt do..wheather its in a game or you tube......plus as we all know projected number one's before they play college dont work out that way unless youre a lebron or oden howard(see the theme physical beasts)..look at the past 6 mock drafts before the hs players were went to college. just last year bj mullins was projected number one..this year it was suppossed to be rubio....im willing to bet that the number one pick this year will be a college player...probabaly a soft more..actually ill bet you wall wont go top 3
Wall just looks like he has a better nba body....his wingspan looks longer. I could be wrong though. I have only seen each of them play twice. I live in KY so I should see a lot of John Wall this season. From what i've seen Wall is a better finisher & is quicker with the ball in his hands. Jennings is a better passer and seems to be a bit more polished right now. In the end though I think Wall will become the better pro. We all are anxious to see how Wall does in the SEC this year.
you say jennings is overhyped correct....ok lets take a look at this.....since wall has only played hs basketball we can go by that..so lets first start out by both of there sr years when they were both seniors i think that will b a equal assesssment since we judge the other people on here by there rookie years or best years.......for 1..jennings takes the one on on match up all three times (i only seen one read about the others on hoopscoop web site)...2 jennings was player of year..im not even sure wall was player of the year in his own state...3..jennings averaged more pts assists steals on a team that played a much harder schedule....jennings was first team all american...now some say well alot of peopel play a extra year..ok we can look at that...so in jennings last year he does all of this what you think he would do if instead of going overseas he decided to play a extra year in highschool as a even better player??.....if blake griffen or kevendurant got player of the year before they decided to go pro what happens if they decide to go back to college the next year?...so the fact that he was alot better in both of there senior years...won the head to head match up 3 times and the fact he had better stats in both of there senior year...and better stats then wall had in his 5th year means nothing??.....alot of yall are hypocrites..ya'll use these same arguements to say another player is better then someone else..some have used dwill is better then paul by these same stats..how can you use this arguement for comparing other players but when it comes to this you cant use it...can i get at least a decent arguement....mikemike makes sense because im sure hes seen wall more then hes seen jennings...im sure most havent seen either in a actually game minus all star gamea or have only seen one and not the other....one arguement some try to make is..."well hes projected as number one"....to that i say that means what exatcly? jennings stays another year hes projected number onebeasley stays another year in hs hes projected number one...favors changes his mind,cousins stays another year they are projected number one..projected is the same thing as guessing
ok i can respect that gators since you havent seen them both much..but quicker with the ball in his hands and better finisher..jennings is a great finisher and fast as lighting..you dont average all them points with out a consitant jumper with out being a great finisher...
look at it like being in a court room..just saying some one is better doesnt prove a point...give some type of real reasoning ..i gave mine...beat him head to head..better stats all around against better competition..all im asking is for reasoning..something that makes me say.."wow tat makes sense ..i think wall is betteror..you have a good point"
I didnt say Jennings wasn't fast or couldnt finish...I said Wall was quicker and could finish better than him. That is my opinion. I also said Wall has better length and a better nba build. I also think Wall has a much better head on his shoulders. Time will tell but I think Wall is the better pro prospect. I really don't care much about the head to head matchups. I mean some players just play well against certain opponents. Deron Williams usually gets the best of Chris Paul. They doesn't mean Deron is better though.
seems to shy away from contact, John Wall wants the contact and finishes through it
when has he shy's away ..i never see that when i watch his games...like how u watch walls game he doesnt shy away right...i havent watched walls games but i have watched brandons..by the way right now they weigh the same and wall has him by an inch...id say jennings has a better head on his shoulders..jennings does run his mouth sometimes but hes never been arrested or charged with anything..wall on the other has been suspened from school last year and has a arrest record this year..the head to head is just one example on top of the stats and accomplishments....id also give jennings the edge because of his pro experience over europe onto the fact he was better then him while in highschool also..but i can understand ya'll likeing wall because you like him more ...just havnt seen any proof to back up why he is better
you must be brandon jennings cousin or something...i mean the way you talk about u must think he should've been the #1 pick this year...Plus Jennings really didn't do much overseas...his stats weren't impressive and his coach wouldn't even play him much at all in the playoffs. I think Wall is more than an inch taller plus I'm guessing his wingspan is longer too not to mention he is more physical. Overall Wall has the better game and more potential.
Wall is better that is why he is going #1.
nope i just seen jennings play and are you walls cousins since you are so sure hes going number 1...im also not a bad wagon guy i have to see a player before joining everyone else and say they are number one..plus i believe in a player proving it against top comp before jumping on there bandwagon and say they are going number one...proving it in highschool just dont cut it...now if he dominates in college like he did in college i would be glad to say hes number one..but no one knows that yet so saying " he is going number 1" is not certain unless you can see the future which i doubt
i see the future pretty well actually
the talking about this is pointless when someone claims to know it all.....later
haha no I definitely dont know it all. I just think Wall will be better. Really can't prove it now. Only time will reveal it. Jennings has a lot of talent too.
josh you gonna start to sound as dumb when you argue with a fool who has just jumps on bandwagons without actually going to a couple of games...so just give it a rest
I'm not jumping on any bandwagons. You can't get mad that I think Wall is better than Jennings. I have seen them both play a couple of times and base my opinion on that. I haven't seen them in person, but I will see Wall plenty next year.
I didn't know Wall was a 5th year senior. Is he stupid or did he have other problems?
I'm not sure why was a 5th year senior. I don't think being dumb was the reason but who knows.
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Brandon Jennings needs to make sure he doesn't turn out to be Stephon Marbury... that's all I have to say about him. He's more concerned with himself than the team and that was always Steph's problem. Both are extremely talented, but both are too narcissistic, IMO.
Also, for the record Josh, Brandon has admitted that he was wrong for talking &$#%#&@! about his future teammates.
I don't know enough about John Wall, but I think that based off of what I've HEARD, I'd say it's basically a toss up with regards to who will be the better pro. It will probably come down to playing time and the situation, to be honest. At this point, BJ is not in a good place in Milwaukee. I do like him alongside Redd, but I agree with whoever said that Sessions is going to get a lot of minutes (if he signs), and BJ might end up like Bayless.
If Wall ends up being the #1 pick as he's projected to be, he'll go to a team that is going to give him the reins from day 1, which might catapult him ahead of BJ.
By Andrew Wagner
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General manager John Hammond was looking at a number of point guards as he approached the draft process, but from the outset, he kept one eye fixed on Jennings, whom he thinks has the potential to be a "special" player.
"You don't want to get to cliché from the get-go," Hammonds said. "But when you talk about upside in the game of basketball, I think the sky's the limit for a guy like this."
In Jennings, the Bucks think they have found a true point guard, capable of running the offense and setting up the main scoring threats, notably Michael Redd and Andrew Bogut.
To get to that point, though, Jennings has some work cut out for him. At 195 pounds, he's still got small frame, much like former Bucks point guard T.J. Ford, but not nearly as fragile. He'll have to hit the weight room and has some work to do with his jumper.
And, having played in the very physical Euroleague, Jennings admits he has to work on adjust his defense to the NBA standard.
"I picked up a lot of bad habits overseas on defense," Jennings said. "We could hand-check, we could push... we could choke a guy, everything. Over here, you can't do that. I have to learn how to ease up on the defensive end."
Some have called Jennings arrogant. Skiles says he's got "flair." Hammond calls it self-confidence. Jennings knows the reputation but insists the only the he's concerned with now is helping the Bucks win.
"Overseas, I learned it's not about money or one player, it's more of a team game," Jennings said. "It's life-or-death over there. If you're winning, everybody's happy. If you're losing, you might have a riot out there. You're going to have some angry people.
"I'm just competitive. I like to compete. If somebody's better than me, I want to go against that person. At the end of the day, we all have to play each other and everybody's going to see who's the best."
Hammond and the Bucks were expected to use the 10th pick to select a point guard and on Monday, a number of guards -- including Jennings -- were in town for a workout. Syracuse's Johnny Flynn and UCLA's Jrue Holiday (still available when the Bucks picked), were among the players thought to be coveted by the Bucks, but Hammond made it clear Friday that the franchise was hoping to grab Jennings when their turn came.
"The last couple weeks, we've been stewing over this," Hammonds said. "(The coaching staff) can verify this. We had a real fear on this guy and the fear was that we don't take him. We really thought in watching him, he had the chance to maybe be the most special of all of them.
"It just scared us to death, every time we mentioned his name and the thought of not taking him. We can't pass something this special. Sometimes things happen for a reason. Why he's sitting right here, I can't say for sure, but I know this is the right place for him and I know he's the right player for us."
look for all those talking trashabout jennings i can understand u may not like his personality or other things but he is definitly not overhyped. u dont get drafted or even play at the level he played at without being good. yes he may run his mouth alot and be immature but his game is real. he extrememly quick and athletic and a streaky shooter. he has a lot of flash in his game which may turn people off but he can play. i feel if anyone is overhyped its rubio. he refuses to work out with anyone and i respect that becuz he didnt want 2 hurt his draft status but i think hype on rubio's future is a little much