[rileymcshea3Participant]

 Is there really any thing you can do to stop tanking?

After all if your team wasn’t going to make the playoffs when you woudn’t want them to get the first pick for a possible (Franchise changing) player like Lebron, Andrew Wiggins, Ben Simmons?

I may have the solution.With 3 easy steps.

Step 1: Get rid of D-League, or at least the name of it. Who wants to play in a league call the Developmental league? It sounds like you didn’t make the A team and have to play for the B team. These are competive athletes, if I’m a pro basketball player that isn’t NBA level yet, I’m going to Europe to see to be a superstar. Who wants to go watch the D-LEAGUE? Once again the name is just terrible and unatractive to players and fans. Give it a new name NBA2? ABA? idk? Anything besides D-League.

Step 2:Compete with NCAA and change the "Age rule". Once you make a new league with a good name. Change the age rule to none, literraly no age rule. In Europe players can start playing pro at whatever age for basketball and soccer. Ricky Rubio became the youngest player ever in the Spanish ACB league in 2005, at age 14. He made his Euroleague debut in 2006, at age 16. Lionel Messi at the age of 13 relocated to Spain, to join Barcelona. After fast progression through there youth team he made his debut at the age of 17. He turned out pretty well too. So why does America have to be different?

Step 3:Promotion and relegated teams. Now that there is 2 respected leagues. NBA and ABA for example. The bottom 2 teams in the NBA( teams with the worst record) get relegated to the ABA. The top 2 teams in the ABA (teams that go to the finals in the playoffs) get promoted to NBA. That will create more competition and discourage tanking. In the Barclays Primiere league for soccer in England it is the same system, except that is the top and bottom 3 teams for each league, with the exception if league votes to change that rule like in 1995 they reduced it to only 2 teams. The bottom teams in the NBA still get the top draft picks though.

 

NOW before every one goes crazy and gives out negs and what not, this is all a joke. I was just wondering what the effects would be if the NBA did change the rules, because we all know its possible with Adam Silver now in charge. Anything can happen. Its already happening in Europe with soccer and thats whre all these ideas came from. How bad can this idea really be?

 

[DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64]

 I mean REALLY?!!!!

[DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64]

 I mean REALLY?!!!!

[omphalosParticipant]

I think working with the NCAA to loosen some restrictions would definitely help.

First step would be to have scholarships fully guaranteed, so they don’t need to worry about getting injured and losing their scholarship in addition to their shot in the NBA.

Second step would be to allow players to return to college after declaring for the draft, so that guys can develop their game in college after getting drafted, instead of possibly washing out and reducing the burden on the NBA to develop players who come in underdone.

Thirdly, I would allow college players to sign sponsorship deals so that players with huge earning potential don’t need to leave school to start earning money through their talent.

The end result would be that players wouldn’t be coming into the NBA as projects, but as more fully developed players. They would be more physically and mentally mature after earning a degree as well. The overall quality of players would be better, which means you could have a decent team, still try to win and still end up with a high lottery pick, instead of the outright tanking by teams trying to be worse than rebuilding teams with young, developing players.

It also means that rookies would be more prepared to make an impact when they arrived, so teams could know they have a superstar sooner instead of just hoping their pick pans out and engaging in multi-year tanks.

Similarly, teams won’t have to shed their veteran players to open up playing time for young prospects because their young guys will be developing in college, rather than causing positional logjams to the detriment of NBA teams that balance player development with winning now.

Think of the Orlando Magic as an example of this – they are a team with a ridiculous amount of young prospects, all of whom need playing time to develop their skills and to be challenged by more responsibility into acquiring more well-rounded games.

This means that players would use college time to expand their skills and shore up their weaknesses without answering to NBA coaches who expect young players to focus on very limited specialities.

Instead of 3 and D guys, or bigs who can defend but can’t dribble or post-up, or wings who can defend but not shoot or pass, you’d get players who have had the responsibility of doing everything for a team instead of playing just a limited role and never fixing the weaknesses in their games.

From the NCAA perspective, they would get to keep the best young players in school longer, instead of the revolving door system without having to pay them a wage because those players with NBA potential could be paid through endorsement or by the NBA (at a sub-NBA contract level obviously). The concentration of young players in college means that they wouldn’t outgrow that level because there would be NBA level talents spread throughout. This would also develop parity in the NCAA and put an end to Kentucky-type talent concentration because players will not be willing to sacrifice their game for more than a year and risk having their stock drop, they’ll got to schools where they’ll have an opportunity to play a big role and star, rather than just get drafted on potential.

Finally, this would increase parity in the NBA because there wouldn’t be teams relying on 19 year olds, they’d be all developed players and the shorter careers mean that the dominance of a particular player or team would also be shorter, so that more teams have an opportunity to win if they make the right decisions.

Just my thoughts on how to discourage tanking, improve the quality of the NBA and NCAA and also prevent situations where talented prospects rot in the NBA because they don’t get playing time or responsibility and never reach their potential – guys like Perry Jones, James Young, Will Barton, Ricky Ledo, Jeremy Lamb, Xavier Henry, who have promising careers compromised because they end up on teams that won’t give them a shot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[omphalosParticipant]

I think working with the NCAA to loosen some restrictions would definitely help.

First step would be to have scholarships fully guaranteed, so they don’t need to worry about getting injured and losing their scholarship in addition to their shot in the NBA.

Second step would be to allow players to return to college after declaring for the draft, so that guys can develop their game in college after getting drafted, instead of possibly washing out and reducing the burden on the NBA to develop players who come in underdone.

Thirdly, I would allow college players to sign sponsorship deals so that players with huge earning potential don’t need to leave school to start earning money through their talent.

The end result would be that players wouldn’t be coming into the NBA as projects, but as more fully developed players. They would be more physically and mentally mature after earning a degree as well. The overall quality of players would be better, which means you could have a decent team, still try to win and still end up with a high lottery pick, instead of the outright tanking by teams trying to be worse than rebuilding teams with young, developing players.

It also means that rookies would be more prepared to make an impact when they arrived, so teams could know they have a superstar sooner instead of just hoping their pick pans out and engaging in multi-year tanks.

Similarly, teams won’t have to shed their veteran players to open up playing time for young prospects because their young guys will be developing in college, rather than causing positional logjams to the detriment of NBA teams that balance player development with winning now.

Think of the Orlando Magic as an example of this – they are a team with a ridiculous amount of young prospects, all of whom need playing time to develop their skills and to be challenged by more responsibility into acquiring more well-rounded games.

This means that players would use college time to expand their skills and shore up their weaknesses without answering to NBA coaches who expect young players to focus on very limited specialities.

Instead of 3 and D guys, or bigs who can defend but can’t dribble or post-up, or wings who can defend but not shoot or pass, you’d get players who have had the responsibility of doing everything for a team instead of playing just a limited role and never fixing the weaknesses in their games.

From the NCAA perspective, they would get to keep the best young players in school longer, instead of the revolving door system without having to pay them a wage because those players with NBA potential could be paid through endorsement or by the NBA (at a sub-NBA contract level obviously). The concentration of young players in college means that they wouldn’t outgrow that level because there would be NBA level talents spread throughout. This would also develop parity in the NCAA and put an end to Kentucky-type talent concentration because players will not be willing to sacrifice their game for more than a year and risk having their stock drop, they’ll got to schools where they’ll have an opportunity to play a big role and star, rather than just get drafted on potential.

Finally, this would increase parity in the NBA because there wouldn’t be teams relying on 19 year olds, they’d be all developed players and the shorter careers mean that the dominance of a particular player or team would also be shorter, so that more teams have an opportunity to win if they make the right decisions.

Just my thoughts on how to discourage tanking, improve the quality of the NBA and NCAA and also prevent situations where talented prospects rot in the NBA because they don’t get playing time or responsibility and never reach their potential – guys like Perry Jones, James Young, Will Barton, Ricky Ledo, Jeremy Lamb, Xavier Henry, who have promising careers compromised because they end up on teams that won’t give them a shot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rip256]

It’s oppression

That’s all I have to say about that

 

 

[Rip256]

It’s oppression

That’s all I have to say about that

 

 

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I don’t know about the age limit. The age limit is their for maturity reasons. Some young players just aren’t ready maturity wise for the NBA. 

I do agree that the D-league name needs to be changed. I don’t think it should be taken away, just the name needs to change. Most pros don’t really recognize the D-league as a bad thing anymore, but I have never liked it when one of favorite players has been relegated to the D-league but always find it encouraging when they don’t look on it badly, but as a learning experience and later get recalled back to a team for injuries or whatever reason it happens to be.

But I don’t think any of these changes would get rid of tanking in the NBA,

I do like the 3rd idea though and that could work. It just depends on how long a certain team is in the ABA, and once they actually get promoted to the NBA, would they still be considered a good team?

 

 

 

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 I don’t know about the age limit. The age limit is their for maturity reasons. Some young players just aren’t ready maturity wise for the NBA. 

I do agree that the D-league name needs to be changed. I don’t think it should be taken away, just the name needs to change. Most pros don’t really recognize the D-league as a bad thing anymore, but I have never liked it when one of favorite players has been relegated to the D-league but always find it encouraging when they don’t look on it badly, but as a learning experience and later get recalled back to a team for injuries or whatever reason it happens to be.

But I don’t think any of these changes would get rid of tanking in the NBA,

I do like the 3rd idea though and that could work. It just depends on how long a certain team is in the ABA, and once they actually get promoted to the NBA, would they still be considered a good team?

 

 

 

[TrillaParticipant]

I think the NBA needs to do the opposite and put more money into the D League. Raising salaries and making it more attractive for borderline NBA players to stay and fight for a spot in the league and would allow for a more competitive league. More competition, better coaching would allow for better player development, and more attractive for young players to get more playing time and get better instead of feeling like they are being punished for being sent down to play. Investing more money in the league could potentially make the NBA better, and speed up the development process for some young players. 

[TrillaParticipant]

I think the NBA needs to do the opposite and put more money into the D League. Raising salaries and making it more attractive for borderline NBA players to stay and fight for a spot in the league and would allow for a more competitive league. More competition, better coaching would allow for better player development, and more attractive for young players to get more playing time and get better instead of feeling like they are being punished for being sent down to play. Investing more money in the league could potentially make the NBA better, and speed up the development process for some young players. 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 And relegation does make games exciting right to the end of the year… But they have NO playoffs (only a 38 game regular season) & more importantly the top 4 teams are the same EVERY year & it’s been that way for over 100 years… Do you really want to have a League where Only 3 or 4 teams – the SAME 3 or 4 teams have ANY chance to win the Championship Every year for Generations???

If you have a young team in an era of "one & done" you are going to lose badly for a few years b/c the NBA is a grown man’s league, but I’d rather my team Develop young Talent & have a Long term plan, than sign a handful of Highly paid, veteran hired guns that don;t feel part of the "team" or organization just to get a #7 or #8 seed, get in the playoffs & lose in the first round… Just 4 to 6 years ago the Wizards, Thunder, Warriors & Clippers were at the bottom of the League… 5 years from now Minnesota, Phila, Milwaukee & Boston will be battling in the playoffs while the Knicks, Lakers & Kings will most likely be stuck… Teams are Not built thru free agency, they are built thru the draft….

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 And relegation does make games exciting right to the end of the year… But they have NO playoffs (only a 38 game regular season) & more importantly the top 4 teams are the same EVERY year & it’s been that way for over 100 years… Do you really want to have a League where Only 3 or 4 teams – the SAME 3 or 4 teams have ANY chance to win the Championship Every year for Generations???

If you have a young team in an era of "one & done" you are going to lose badly for a few years b/c the NBA is a grown man’s league, but I’d rather my team Develop young Talent & have a Long term plan, than sign a handful of Highly paid, veteran hired guns that don;t feel part of the "team" or organization just to get a #7 or #8 seed, get in the playoffs & lose in the first round… Just 4 to 6 years ago the Wizards, Thunder, Warriors & Clippers were at the bottom of the League… 5 years from now Minnesota, Phila, Milwaukee & Boston will be battling in the playoffs while the Knicks, Lakers & Kings will most likely be stuck… Teams are Not built thru free agency, they are built thru the draft….

 

 

 

[EspressoParticipant]

Wow!!! How didn’t I ever think about it. As far as marketing goes, D-League is one of the worst names available the league. They need to change the name asap, something that doesn’t connote that players are ‘in’ for mere developmental purposes. ABA might not be the best option since it was a full league of its own and associating it with the D-league might be low-balling ABA just a tad.

 

[EspressoParticipant]

Wow!!! How didn’t I ever think about it. As far as marketing goes, D-League is one of the worst names available the league. They need to change the name asap, something that doesn’t connote that players are ‘in’ for mere developmental purposes. ABA might not be the best option since it was a full league of its own and associating it with the D-league might be low-balling ABA just a tad.

 

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