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- Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 6:52pm #31189
marcusfizer21ParticipantI’m not really the type of guy that would just come in and post something from an imagination like the trademachine but looking at the way the Charlotte Bobcats are right now, they drafted two solid picks in Bismack Biyombo and Kemba Walker. We all know what they could do… Yet, they traded away Stephen Jackson, their team captain and their leading man and added in Corey Maggette who may be scoring more now that the Bobcats have no other options to go to with Kwame Brown and Desagana Diop as their big men… They maybe the worst offensive team in the NBA coming in this season (presuming there’s no lockout of course)…
My thought would be, why not pursue Mike Beasley? I mean, he’s been in the market for quite sometime now… I think he can fill the void of a "franchise" guy for the mean time with them and provide the offensive spark they truly need. The Wolves are stacked with guys oozing with talent and I think it’s better if Beasley was on a team where he could have the minutes and offense all on his own… Beasley may have been a bit disappointing considering he was the second pick in a strong 2008 draft class but I feel like he can still be the man especially when you look at how Charlotte looks bad as an offensive team… I hope they’d pursue him… He’d be a great, great pick up… i don’t know how, you guys can think of ways, all I know is, the Bobcats can be better offensively with B-Easy on their team…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:00pm #556034
kobyzParticipantCavs should go after Mike Beasley, now after the draft it’s great situation and match for both sides!!!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:00pm #555975
kobyzParticipantCavs should go after Mike Beasley, now after the draft it’s great situation and match for both sides!!!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:03pm #556036
Cincinatti BowtiesParticipantMike Beasley is defintley worth a gamble for any rebuilding team in my opinion. He can carry a team offensivley, and is still really young.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:03pm #555977
Cincinatti BowtiesParticipantMike Beasley is defintley worth a gamble for any rebuilding team in my opinion. He can carry a team offensivley, and is still really young.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:04pm #556038
ilike.panochasParticipantMany teams that on rebuilding mode can use Michael Beasley, the problem is that the Bobcats doesn’t have pieces to acquire him (unless you want to package Kemba and/or Biyombo). You could trade a bunch of average players (Gerald Henderson, Augustin, etc..) but Minnesota is already too mediocre to trade a rising young player for a bunch of average players.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:04pm #555979
ilike.panochasParticipantMany teams that on rebuilding mode can use Michael Beasley, the problem is that the Bobcats doesn’t have pieces to acquire him (unless you want to package Kemba and/or Biyombo). You could trade a bunch of average players (Gerald Henderson, Augustin, etc..) but Minnesota is already too mediocre to trade a rising young player for a bunch of average players.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:04pm #556040
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI like the idea but exactly what assets aside from Kemba and Biyombo do they have? I don’t think TWolves would want Maggette, then again, Kahn has done worse. Diop and Kwame aren’t anywhere near the trade value that Beasley is worth. They just don’t have the assets to propose a decent trade for him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:04pm #555981
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI like the idea but exactly what assets aside from Kemba and Biyombo do they have? I don’t think TWolves would want Maggette, then again, Kahn has done worse. Diop and Kwame aren’t anywhere near the trade value that Beasley is worth. They just don’t have the assets to propose a decent trade for him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:12pm #556048
r377ParticipantThey could have done gerald wallace or stephen jackson for beasley, but now don’t have too many assets that the wolves would like.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:12pm #555989
r377ParticipantThey could have done gerald wallace or stephen jackson for beasley, but now don’t have too many assets that the wolves would like.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:17pm #556054
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantMichael Beasley is a solid NBA player but certainly not a franchise player. He has neither the drive or determination to be more than a 4th or 5th option on a solid NBA team. That being siad he Wolves will not be just giving him away because from a rotation stand point it makes sense to keep him around as a rotation player if they find he’s not capable of starting in front of D.Williams.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:17pm #555996
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantMichael Beasley is a solid NBA player but certainly not a franchise player. He has neither the drive or determination to be more than a 4th or 5th option on a solid NBA team. That being siad he Wolves will not be just giving him away because from a rotation stand point it makes sense to keep him around as a rotation player if they find he’s not capable of starting in front of D.Williams.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:27pm #556062
marcusfizer21ParticipantLook at their line up…
DJ Augustin
Kwame Brown
Matt Carroll
Dante Cunningham
Boris Diaw
deSagana Diop
Gerald Henderson
Dominic McGuire
Eduardo Najera
Joel Pryzbilla
Tyrus Thomas
DJ White
not to mention adding Biyombo and Kemba on that team… still, the assets aren’t there that can make any trigger for that deal to happen but one thing I know is it’s David Kahn… He’s name alone can make this a possibility…lol
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:27pm #556003
marcusfizer21ParticipantLook at their line up…
DJ Augustin
Kwame Brown
Matt Carroll
Dante Cunningham
Boris Diaw
deSagana Diop
Gerald Henderson
Dominic McGuire
Eduardo Najera
Joel Pryzbilla
Tyrus Thomas
DJ White
not to mention adding Biyombo and Kemba on that team… still, the assets aren’t there that can make any trigger for that deal to happen but one thing I know is it’s David Kahn… He’s name alone can make this a possibility…lol
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:29pm #556064
UNC44ParticipantBeasley will be a Timberwolve for atleast 5 more years bet on it Kahn loves him and the Bobcats have 0 assets.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:29pm #556006
UNC44ParticipantBeasley will be a Timberwolve for atleast 5 more years bet on it Kahn loves him and the Bobcats have 0 assets.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:36pm #556068
jeff416ParticipantI think he would be a great fit for Charlotte, but they have nothing to trade for him. They could go after a guy like JR Smith or someone else through free agency for offense, but they don’t have enough trade pieces to make any big trade.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:36pm #556010
jeff416ParticipantI think he would be a great fit for Charlotte, but they have nothing to trade for him. They could go after a guy like JR Smith or someone else through free agency for offense, but they don’t have enough trade pieces to make any big trade.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:09pm #556077
KobeeeeeParticipanthttp://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6j34x4t
Bobcats
PG – Calderon
SG – Henderson
SF – Maggette
PF – Beasley
C – Brown/Przybilla
6th – Tyrus Thomas
Biyombo
KembaCeltics
PG – Rondo
SG – Allen
SF – Pierce
PF – Garnett
C – Milicic
6th – Jeff Green
AugustinT’Wolves
PG – Rubio
SG – Johnson
SF – Derrick Williams
PF – Love
C – BargnaniToronto
PG – Bayless
SG – DeRozan
SF – Anthony Randolph
PF – Ed Davis
C – Now here is a problem…FAR from perfect… But Charlotte gets Beasley. The Celtics get a new starting C and more bench pieces. Toronto can tank for a high pick next year, and they get an expiring contract in Diaw. Minnesota gets an uncontested starting spot for Williams, and the defense drop-off from Milicic to Bargnani shouldn’t be TOO bad and Bargs adds more scoring potential. If only Valanciunas could come early to be Toronto’s C…
There was also another trade I thought of, pretty much the same as the one above except Jeff Green goes to Toronto and Tyrus Thomas goes to Boston. With Green, Toronto could play some small ball, and Tyrus Thomas could play a Glen Davis-type role in Boston.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:09pm #556019
KobeeeeeParticipanthttp://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6j34x4t
Bobcats
PG – Calderon
SG – Henderson
SF – Maggette
PF – Beasley
C – Brown/Przybilla
6th – Tyrus Thomas
Biyombo
KembaCeltics
PG – Rondo
SG – Allen
SF – Pierce
PF – Garnett
C – Milicic
6th – Jeff Green
AugustinT’Wolves
PG – Rubio
SG – Johnson
SF – Derrick Williams
PF – Love
C – BargnaniToronto
PG – Bayless
SG – DeRozan
SF – Anthony Randolph
PF – Ed Davis
C – Now here is a problem…FAR from perfect… But Charlotte gets Beasley. The Celtics get a new starting C and more bench pieces. Toronto can tank for a high pick next year, and they get an expiring contract in Diaw. Minnesota gets an uncontested starting spot for Williams, and the defense drop-off from Milicic to Bargnani shouldn’t be TOO bad and Bargs adds more scoring potential. If only Valanciunas could come early to be Toronto’s C…
There was also another trade I thought of, pretty much the same as the one above except Jeff Green goes to Toronto and Tyrus Thomas goes to Boston. With Green, Toronto could play some small ball, and Tyrus Thomas could play a Glen Davis-type role in Boston.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:36pm #556087
Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipantDavid Kahn just drafted a 26 year old player who he thought was 21, I’m pretty sure he’d trade Michael Beasley straight up for Joel Pryzbilla lol
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:36pm #556029
Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipantDavid Kahn just drafted a 26 year old player who he thought was 21, I’m pretty sure he’d trade Michael Beasley straight up for Joel Pryzbilla lol
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 9:04pm #556043
kngojcParticipantI think maybe the only way Beasely gets traded is if the Wolves get at least two future first rounders, including a 2012 pick, from a team that is almost a surefire lottery team. Possible destinations are Cleveland and Charlotte.. Maybe get Gerald Henderson and/or Tyrus Thomas. For a trade with Cleveland maybe something like three picks and Baron Davis to mentor Rubio. Just some possible ideas.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 9:04pm #556101
kngojcParticipantI think maybe the only way Beasely gets traded is if the Wolves get at least two future first rounders, including a 2012 pick, from a team that is almost a surefire lottery team. Possible destinations are Cleveland and Charlotte.. Maybe get Gerald Henderson and/or Tyrus Thomas. For a trade with Cleveland maybe something like three picks and Baron Davis to mentor Rubio. Just some possible ideas.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 10:16pm #556069
marcusfizer21Participanttheir 2012 pick is going to chicago though it is top 10 protected… it is likely though that they are going to keep their 1st round pick…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 10:16pm #556127
marcusfizer21Participanttheir 2012 pick is going to chicago though it is top 10 protected… it is likely though that they are going to keep their 1st round pick…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 10:54pm #556076
TRC1991Participantwhat do the bobcats have that the wolves would be interested in?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 10:54pm #556133
TRC1991Participantwhat do the bobcats have that the wolves would be interested in?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 11:11pm #556078
BigChamp12ParticipantMike Beasley hasnt had a great career in the league… YET! but this guy is still young and a legit stud. I think he would be a great asset for the Bobcats, he will have the greenlight and would be bale to play freely. I dont know how they would pull it off but the timberwolves are i need of centers and im sure they would give beasley up if the right offer comes along, Any player on the Bobcats roster should be up for grabs except Kemba, Biyombo, Tyrus Thomas, and Maggette. Especially Henderson and Augustine. Not productive players for the amount of mins they play
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 11:11pm #556135
BigChamp12ParticipantMike Beasley hasnt had a great career in the league… YET! but this guy is still young and a legit stud. I think he would be a great asset for the Bobcats, he will have the greenlight and would be bale to play freely. I dont know how they would pull it off but the timberwolves are i need of centers and im sure they would give beasley up if the right offer comes along, Any player on the Bobcats roster should be up for grabs except Kemba, Biyombo, Tyrus Thomas, and Maggette. Especially Henderson and Augustine. Not productive players for the amount of mins they play
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 1:42am #556090
CalipariParticipantBottom line, the Bobcats are devoid of anything resembling franchise-saving talent. I liked what they did in the draft, because both Kemba and Bismack have good potential to become solid contributors, and nice complementary pieces. Michael Beasley is a good NBA player, but not a franchise type savior, who can carry the team on his back. Because of this, they shouldn’t dangle useful assets for the future for him. Granted, the thought of MJ mentoring Beasley is interesting, but Charlotte doesn’t have the luxury of taking the risk at this point. Clearly they are done being stuck in mediocrity, and are beginning to tear down in order to build up. Maybe if you could get Kahn to take back freakin Boris Diaw or Gerald Henderson straight up, then pull the trigger. Otherwise, stick with rebuilding through the draft. They figure to have a pretty rough time next year, and as far as I know they do have a 2012 1st rounder, so hopefully they can get a real superstar-level talent, because there figures to be plenty available.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 1:42am #556148
CalipariParticipantBottom line, the Bobcats are devoid of anything resembling franchise-saving talent. I liked what they did in the draft, because both Kemba and Bismack have good potential to become solid contributors, and nice complementary pieces. Michael Beasley is a good NBA player, but not a franchise type savior, who can carry the team on his back. Because of this, they shouldn’t dangle useful assets for the future for him. Granted, the thought of MJ mentoring Beasley is interesting, but Charlotte doesn’t have the luxury of taking the risk at this point. Clearly they are done being stuck in mediocrity, and are beginning to tear down in order to build up. Maybe if you could get Kahn to take back freakin Boris Diaw or Gerald Henderson straight up, then pull the trigger. Otherwise, stick with rebuilding through the draft. They figure to have a pretty rough time next year, and as far as I know they do have a 2012 1st rounder, so hopefully they can get a real superstar-level talent, because there figures to be plenty available.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 4:45am #556141
doubledribblerParticipantLooking at this, I feel really bad for Kemba. The Bobcats have absolutely no talent at all around him and it’s going to be hard for him to develop and refine his point guard skills with this group. He’s going to have to attempt to do the same thing he did in college last year, but at the NBA level for 82 games with far less talent as compared to the other teams he would play against.
As far as a Beasly trade goes maybe a decent trade would be Beasly for Augustin and Henderson, though I’m sure Minnesota could do better. The fact that everyone seems to agree that Beasly fits great for any rebuilding team makes me believe that the guy is never going to be a superstar. If none of the good teams are interested in you or feel that you would be a great addition then you may be one of those guys that put up big numbers on bad teams your whole career.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 4:45am #556200
doubledribblerParticipantLooking at this, I feel really bad for Kemba. The Bobcats have absolutely no talent at all around him and it’s going to be hard for him to develop and refine his point guard skills with this group. He’s going to have to attempt to do the same thing he did in college last year, but at the NBA level for 82 games with far less talent as compared to the other teams he would play against.
As far as a Beasly trade goes maybe a decent trade would be Beasly for Augustin and Henderson, though I’m sure Minnesota could do better. The fact that everyone seems to agree that Beasly fits great for any rebuilding team makes me believe that the guy is never going to be a superstar. If none of the good teams are interested in you or feel that you would be a great addition then you may be one of those guys that put up big numbers on bad teams your whole career.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 5:17am #556157
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantBeasley is not a franchise player. He doesn’t work hard, and hasn’t improved his passing or defense. Not unlike many players who get their numbers on bad team, he does none of the things that help teams win games. He will fill a stat sheet in a big loss. Minnesota has a lot of those guys, and that is why they have been at a historically bad level for four years. It is hard to be that bad in the NBA for four straight years. There is a reason Miami’s plan wanted nothing to do with him. Charlotte is on the path to bottoming out, and there is no reason to add an anchor who will keep him there.
0- Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 6:26am #556195
ryan27ParticipantDoes Minnesota even want to keep Beasley around? I cant imagine it would take too much to trade for him, he is going to be a free agent after this season and I dont see the Wolves trying to sign him long term with Anthony Randolph, Wesley Johnson and Derrick Williams around.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 6:26am #556254
ryan27ParticipantDoes Minnesota even want to keep Beasley around? I cant imagine it would take too much to trade for him, he is going to be a free agent after this season and I dont see the Wolves trying to sign him long term with Anthony Randolph, Wesley Johnson and Derrick Williams around.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 5:17am #556216
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantBeasley is not a franchise player. He doesn’t work hard, and hasn’t improved his passing or defense. Not unlike many players who get their numbers on bad team, he does none of the things that help teams win games. He will fill a stat sheet in a big loss. Minnesota has a lot of those guys, and that is why they have been at a historically bad level for four years. It is hard to be that bad in the NBA for four straight years. There is a reason Miami’s plan wanted nothing to do with him. Charlotte is on the path to bottoming out, and there is no reason to add an anchor who will keep him there.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 5:28am #556163
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantand there is no reason to add an anchor who will keep them there.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 5:28am #556222
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantand there is no reason to add an anchor who will keep them there.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 8:56am #556344
Johnny ChillI understand the kid is talented, he was the #2 pick behind Rose. He was playing with D.Wade.
But I don’t think he has the desire to be the best. He’s not a player, championship teams would build around. He maybe in 4-5 years if he learns to be a part to a team, he can be the 3rd option on a championship contender but right now he is a headcase.
Any team he is on, will not make the playoffs.
Any playoff team or team with playoff aspirations should stay away.
Right now is trade value is a expensive contact or a future 2nd round pick.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 8:56am #556285
Johnny ChillI understand the kid is talented, he was the #2 pick behind Rose. He was playing with D.Wade.
But I don’t think he has the desire to be the best. He’s not a player, championship teams would build around. He maybe in 4-5 years if he learns to be a part to a team, he can be the 3rd option on a championship contender but right now he is a headcase.
Any team he is on, will not make the playoffs.
Any playoff team or team with playoff aspirations should stay away.
Right now is trade value is a expensive contact or a future 2nd round pick.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 9:38am #556316
Ghost01ParticipantBeasely is something like the most innefficient scorer in the NBA. They dont need him, they need some veteran scoring but not Beasely.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 9:38am #556377
Ghost01ParticipantBeasely is something like the most innefficient scorer in the NBA. They dont need him, they need some veteran scoring but not Beasely.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 9:46am #556327
doubledribblerParticipant^^^^^^^^^Good point. I think in general the Timberwolves need a veteran prescence or too. Way too many young guys and they have enough flexibility with so many of them staying over seas. They need to focus on building a solid core and teaching all these guys the right way to play. If they don’t care about winning they could probably just keep the team intact and run and shoot all day long. They would be horrible to watch, but might actually draw in more fan interest and it makes use of their depth.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 9:46am #556387
doubledribblerParticipant^^^^^^^^^Good point. I think in general the Timberwolves need a veteran prescence or too. Way too many young guys and they have enough flexibility with so many of them staying over seas. They need to focus on building a solid core and teaching all these guys the right way to play. If they don’t care about winning they could probably just keep the team intact and run and shoot all day long. They would be horrible to watch, but might actually draw in more fan interest and it makes use of their depth.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 9:50am #556331
GlenTaylorSucksParticipantUnless the Bobcats can part with an unprotected first round draft pick in the 2012 draft, then it isn’t happening.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 9:50am #556391
GlenTaylorSucksParticipantUnless the Bobcats can part with an unprotected first round draft pick in the 2012 draft, then it isn’t happening.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 11:28am #556384
kobyzParticipant - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2011 - 11:28am #556445
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