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  • #24183
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    Blake Griffin will be a top 5 PF in history. It won’t be hard fir him to do either. Top 5 PF’s usually include Malone, Duncan, KG and Barkley. And guess what, Griffin has the strength of Karl Malone, the athletism of Garnett, the tenacity of Charles Barkley, and though he doesn’t have the skills of Tim Duncan, his footwork will have him very skilled in his own right.

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    Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Karl Malone, Dirk Nowtizki, Bob Petit, Elvin Hayes, Dennis Rodman, Shawn Kemp, Kevin McHale, Chris Webber, Pau Gasol

     

    Griffin has a nice road to travel into becoming a top 5 PF ever.

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    Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Karl Malone, Dirk Nowtizki, Bob Petit, Elvin Hayes, Dennis Rodman, Shawn Kemp, Kevin McHale, Chris Webber, Pau Gasol

     

    Griffin has a nice road to travel into becoming a top 5 PF ever.

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  • #461669
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    He can put up as many stats as he wants but with no rings or finals apperances he gets no consideration

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    He can put up as many stats as he wants but with no rings or finals apperances he gets no consideration

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  • #461671
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    Wow, he wins 6 of 27 games after missing an entire season because of a knee injury and people ask will he be a top 5 PF?

    Ask this first:

    – Will he ever play 10 seasons? Knee injurys have ruined so many careers, not only of basketball players but in every sport.

    – Will he ever make the playoffs with the Clippers?

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  • #461686
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    Wow, he wins 6 of 27 games after missing an entire season because of a knee injury and people ask will he be a top 5 PF?

    Ask this first:

    – Will he ever play 10 seasons? Knee injurys have ruined so many careers, not only of basketball players but in every sport.

    – Will he ever make the playoffs with the Clippers?

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  • #461673
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    It’s too soon to be talking about his place among the history of greats lol.

    He’s a beast though. A unique type of talent with just about everything in his game. He just needs to refine his skills and keep adding new things. It’s not hard to see that he’s going to be a very good defender too. He’s my favorite player in the NBA.

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  • #461688
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    It’s too soon to be talking about his place among the history of greats lol.

    He’s a beast though. A unique type of talent with just about everything in his game. He just needs to refine his skills and keep adding new things. It’s not hard to see that he’s going to be a very good defender too. He’s my favorite player in the NBA.

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  • #461675
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    he’s a rookie? calm down. Eddy Curry once led the league in feild goal percentage in a season, calm down

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  • #461690
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    he’s a rookie? calm down. Eddy Curry once led the league in feild goal percentage in a season, calm down

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  • #461681
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    It’s pre-mature to be talking about Griffin as a top five power forward, but I agree that he does have the strength of Malone, the athleticism of Garnett and the tenacity of Barkley. His footwork isn’t on Duncan’s level, but it’s very good.

    Griffin is an amazing talent and a hard worker too. As long as he can stay healthy (you have to say that about every player though) and he’s able to win games in his career (which he should… he won’t be on the Clippers forever), he’ll have a chance to put himself in the conversation.

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  • #461696
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    It’s pre-mature to be talking about Griffin as a top five power forward, but I agree that he does have the strength of Malone, the athleticism of Garnett and the tenacity of Barkley. His footwork isn’t on Duncan’s level, but it’s very good.

    Griffin is an amazing talent and a hard worker too. As long as he can stay healthy (you have to say that about every player though) and he’s able to win games in his career (which he should… he won’t be on the Clippers forever), he’ll have a chance to put himself in the conversation.

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  • #461695
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    It’s not up to you people to decide when is to early to tell. Obviously he hasn’t “arrived” yet but he already has the tools.

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  • #461710
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    It’s not up to you people to decide when is to early to tell. Obviously he hasn’t “arrived” yet but he already has the tools.

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  • #461699
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    You’re right… He has all of the tools. The only thing he seems to be lacking is length, but considering how strong and athletic he is… It doesn’t hurt him as much.

    What I like about him the most is he has that old school competitiveness. He has no friends on the court and he likes going at the other team’s toughest/biggest player.

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  • #461714
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    You’re right… He has all of the tools. The only thing he seems to be lacking is length, but considering how strong and athletic he is… It doesn’t hurt him as much.

    What I like about him the most is he has that old school competitiveness. He has no friends on the court and he likes going at the other team’s toughest/biggest player.

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  • #461709
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    tend to agree w/ knicksboy1…..

    injuries play a huge role in careers and if he hurts that knee again his career could be in jeopordy, realistically tho I have never seen a post player come in and dominate the way he has in his rookie year ( too young wen duncan came in the L )

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  • #461724
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    tend to agree w/ knicksboy1…..

    injuries play a huge role in careers and if he hurts that knee again his career could be in jeopordy, realistically tho I have never seen a post player come in and dominate the way he has in his rookie year ( too young wen duncan came in the L )

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  • #461721
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    i like what i see, but come on now this is way too early. ALso, while i never saw him play, i’ve always heard bob petit was a top pf who single handidly stopped the celtics 8 straight titles and was considered the best pf of all time before malone took it from him and then duncan took it from malone.

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  • #461736
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    i like what i see, but come on now this is way too early. ALso, while i never saw him play, i’ve always heard bob petit was a top pf who single handidly stopped the celtics 8 straight titles and was considered the best pf of all time before malone took it from him and then duncan took it from malone.

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  • #461733
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    He had to be the best PF playing today first.

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  • #461748
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    NYK2010
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    He had to be the best PF playing today first.

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  • #461739
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    Wow slow your roll. Hes very athletic and has some sick highlight dunks but he jus a rookie technically & its way too early to even put him in the conversation for best pf of all-time, it might even be early to put him in the conversation for best PF in the league right now.

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  • #461754
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    Wow slow your roll. Hes very athletic and has some sick highlight dunks but he jus a rookie technically & its way too early to even put him in the conversation for best pf of all-time, it might even be early to put him in the conversation for best PF in the league right now.

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  • #461743
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    McDunkin

    Even Cyclo wasnt this wrong.

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  • #461758
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    McDunkin

    Even Cyclo wasnt this wrong.

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  • #461838
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    He will probably be one of the best rookie PFs ever, but lets wait to see how the rest of his career pans out to say one of the best all-time. He definitely has the potential to be.

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  • #461823
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    He will probably be one of the best rookie PFs ever, but lets wait to see how the rest of his career pans out to say one of the best all-time. He definitely has the potential to be.

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  • #461831
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    He will be very good for a long time, but he is injury prone and will have problems with his knees as he is very athlethic. He is a beast though, but no HoF great.  His career will remind you of VC’s.

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  • #461846
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    He will be very good for a long time, but he is injury prone and will have problems with his knees as he is very athlethic. He is a beast though, but no HoF great.  His career will remind you of VC’s.

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  • #461849
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    Griffin’s and VC’s mentality are nothing alike. If Blake’s athleticism does deteriorate fast, he still has the work ethic to improve himself beyond that and still be good. He’s already showing more skill than what people expected of him.

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  • #461864
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    Griffin’s and VC’s mentality are nothing alike. If Blake’s athleticism does deteriorate fast, he still has the work ethic to improve himself beyond that and still be good. He’s already showing more skill than what people expected of him.

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  • #461873
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    Two months into the season is too early to answer that question, ask me again in Febuary I might have an answer, lol.

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  • #461888
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    Sonny Red
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    Two months into the season is too early to answer that question, ask me again in Febuary I might have an answer, lol.

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  • #461879
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    knicksboy ill take blake griffin over dennis rodman any day

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  • #461894
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    knicksboy ill take blake griffin over dennis rodman any day

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  • #461927
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    this is only his rookie season, c’mon son

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  • #461942
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    this is only his rookie season, c’mon son

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  • #461957
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    entirely too early to be saying somehting like that is he even one of the top 5 pf in the game now? gasol dirk amare is really a pf id still take kg over griffin as well ask j smooth in atlanta so nope lol imo hes not even top 5 yet dang i forgto big fundamental too so griffin barely gets in the top ten imo

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  • #461972
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    entirely too early to be saying somehting like that is he even one of the top 5 pf in the game now? gasol dirk amare is really a pf id still take kg over griffin as well ask j smooth in atlanta so nope lol imo hes not even top 5 yet dang i forgto big fundamental too so griffin barely gets in the top ten imo

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  • #461961
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    knicksboy ill take blake griffin over dennis rodman any day

     

    You do that. You can have Blake Griffin, i’ll take Dennis Rodman for my team.

     

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  • #461976
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    knicksboy ill take blake griffin over dennis rodman any day

     

    You do that. You can have Blake Griffin, i’ll take Dennis Rodman for my team.

     

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  • #462019
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     I think if any GM that would take Dennis over Griffin…i think they would be fired….Griffin is playin like a number on pick in the draft…and would be able to play on any team and fit…Dennis will play a couple seasons and wear out his welcome…it only a matter of Griffin stayin healthy and goin to a new team…you dont worry bout his game because the work ethic is there and his defense will gradually get better

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  • #462034
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     I think if any GM that would take Dennis over Griffin…i think they would be fired….Griffin is playin like a number on pick in the draft…and would be able to play on any team and fit…Dennis will play a couple seasons and wear out his welcome…it only a matter of Griffin stayin healthy and goin to a new team…you dont worry bout his game because the work ethic is there and his defense will gradually get better

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  • #462027
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    I think if any GM that would take Dennis over Griffin…i think they would be fired….Griffin is playin like a number on pick in the draft…and would be able to play on any team and fit…Dennis will play a couple seasons and wear out his welcome…it only a matter of Griffin stayin healthy and goin to a new team…you dont worry bout his game because the work ethic is there and his defense will gradually get better

     

    You serious man? The difference is,  Rodman was a defensive monster and monster rebounder. I wouldn’t have to worry about anything else at that position. I could even have Rodman coming off the bench. If I was building a team TODAY with all the players over the past 15 years, I’ll take Rodman. EVERYONE knows your not building a team with Dennis Rodman, but there hasn’t been another player like him EVER. Blake Griffin is great in 26 games. I wanna see his career pan out.

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  • #462042
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    I think if any GM that would take Dennis over Griffin…i think they would be fired….Griffin is playin like a number on pick in the draft…and would be able to play on any team and fit…Dennis will play a couple seasons and wear out his welcome…it only a matter of Griffin stayin healthy and goin to a new team…you dont worry bout his game because the work ethic is there and his defense will gradually get better

     

    You serious man? The difference is,  Rodman was a defensive monster and monster rebounder. I wouldn’t have to worry about anything else at that position. I could even have Rodman coming off the bench. If I was building a team TODAY with all the players over the past 15 years, I’ll take Rodman. EVERYONE knows your not building a team with Dennis Rodman, but there hasn’t been another player like him EVER. Blake Griffin is great in 26 games. I wanna see his career pan out.

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  • #462029
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    And if you think Blake Griffin at this point in his career is better then Dennis Rodman, you should really just kill yourself.

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  • #462044
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    And if you think Blake Griffin at this point in his career is better then Dennis Rodman, you should really just kill yourself.

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  • #462033
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    Rodman. what he does leads to wins. i can get other guys to score but its harder to find a lock down defender that also is a great re bounder. Wouldn’t build my team around him though

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  • #462048
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    Rodman. what he does leads to wins. i can get other guys to score but its harder to find a lock down defender that also is a great re bounder. Wouldn’t build my team around him though

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  • #462037
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    Blake Griffin is NO WHERE NEAR the level of Dennis Rodman.  If you really believe he is.. then you haven’t seen Rodman play at all.

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  • #462052
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    Blake Griffin is NO WHERE NEAR the level of Dennis Rodman.  If you really believe he is.. then you haven’t seen Rodman play at all.

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  • #462117
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    Rodman for one year, Griffin for his career.

    Its close, but in a few years hell be easily one of the best players in the nba.

     

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  • #462132
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    Rodman for one year, Griffin for his career.

    Its close, but in a few years hell be easily one of the best players in the nba.

     

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  • #462119
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    Rodman was a smart player, he rarely took a shot he wasn’t supposed to, and knew how to play with the talent around him, not everyone can adjust with a new team or players. He was an obvious beast on the boards, he especially killed teams with his offensive rebounding. He was a great defender who  could guard multiple positions. He also had great stamina and a knack for getting loose balls. Blake Griffin has some of the same qualities, but it still way to early in career to be comparing him to other then rookies and fellow young players.

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  • #462134
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    Rodman was a smart player, he rarely took a shot he wasn’t supposed to, and knew how to play with the talent around him, not everyone can adjust with a new team or players. He was an obvious beast on the boards, he especially killed teams with his offensive rebounding. He was a great defender who  could guard multiple positions. He also had great stamina and a knack for getting loose balls. Blake Griffin has some of the same qualities, but it still way to early in career to be comparing him to other then rookies and fellow young players.

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  • #462121
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    Rodman for one year, Griffin for his career.

    Really? Explain.

    Its close, but in a few years hell be easily one of the best players in the nba.

    How do you know that? Between the dozens of players coming from college, the underachivers and rookies now, who says he doesn’t fall back in the top 30?

     

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  • #462136
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    Rodman for one year, Griffin for his career.

    Really? Explain.

    Its close, but in a few years hell be easily one of the best players in the nba.

    How do you know that? Between the dozens of players coming from college, the underachivers and rookies now, who says he doesn’t fall back in the top 30?

     

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  • #462131
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    Rodman for one year, Griffin for his career.

    -Really? Explain.

    Its close, but in a few years hell be easily one of the best players in the nba.

    – How do you know that? Between the dozens of players coming from college, the underachievers and rookies now, who says he doesn’t fall back in the top 30?
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    Rodman was a great player, and Griffin is very good now, Rodman is still better, maybe change it to one more year.

    I guess you could use that argument, i know your harsh on players who haven’t proven much, but its not crazy to say Griffin is gonna keep up, in fact hes just gonna get better if he can stay healthy, with better pg play, and just growing up, and having better understanding of the game.

    Maybe i shouldnt say hell be an elite player, but hes certainly proven more than the college players, and underachievers.

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  • #462146
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    Rodman for one year, Griffin for his career.

    -Really? Explain.

    Its close, but in a few years hell be easily one of the best players in the nba.

    – How do you know that? Between the dozens of players coming from college, the underachievers and rookies now, who says he doesn’t fall back in the top 30?
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    Rodman was a great player, and Griffin is very good now, Rodman is still better, maybe change it to one more year.

    I guess you could use that argument, i know your harsh on players who haven’t proven much, but its not crazy to say Griffin is gonna keep up, in fact hes just gonna get better if he can stay healthy, with better pg play, and just growing up, and having better understanding of the game.

    Maybe i shouldnt say hell be an elite player, but hes certainly proven more than the college players, and underachievers.

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  • #462181
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    if starting today, give me griffin over rodman easily. Rodman was never a top 2 player on any team he played for. Tell me you think griffin will be a career 3rd best player on a team? Rodman rebounded better then anyone else in the league and was a top 5 defender for a number of years. But to say he was a offensive liability would be understatement. He was also a total moron and cancer off the court.

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  • #462196
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    if starting today, give me griffin over rodman easily. Rodman was never a top 2 player on any team he played for. Tell me you think griffin will be a career 3rd best player on a team? Rodman rebounded better then anyone else in the league and was a top 5 defender for a number of years. But to say he was a offensive liability would be understatement. He was also a total moron and cancer off the court.

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  • #462189
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    ok knicksboy  i guess we can have this convo in 10 years or so…..but if it was me i would pick a player that a beast offensively and you know he will end up being a viscious rebounder because of his nose for the ball…all he needs is someone to teach him to be atleast a decent defender…and whoever said you can always get someone to score…no you cant always get a big that scores 20 and 10 cuz not many ppl in the league can do so…the only i problem i have with dennis is his character and ability to stay within a organization cuz he always wears out his welcome…would you rather have a player with his head on straight and has a chance to be a great player and a complete player because of his talent or worth ethic or a player that will give you the best defense and rebounding but might need  some babysitting..No ill def pick Griffin…maybe i should kill myself right knicksboy

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    ok knicksboy  i guess we can have this convo in 10 years or so…..but if it was me i would pick a player that a beast offensively and you know he will end up being a viscious rebounder because of his nose for the ball…all he needs is someone to teach him to be atleast a decent defender…and whoever said you can always get someone to score…no you cant always get a big that scores 20 and 10 cuz not many ppl in the league can do so…the only i problem i have with dennis is his character and ability to stay within a organization cuz he always wears out his welcome…would you rather have a player with his head on straight and has a chance to be a great player and a complete player because of his talent or worth ethic or a player that will give you the best defense and rebounding but might need  some babysitting..No ill def pick Griffin…maybe i should kill myself right knicksboy

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    not yet

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  • #465990
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    if not for his such short arms he would have the chance to be as high as number 2 PF of all time after Timmy, but with that weakness of his he would have a hard time to be even top 5 because it will prevent him from making impact on the defensive side and also on offense it will  make him harder time through the course of his career.

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  • #466021
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    Short arms have nothing to do with being a very good defender. I’m sure with time he will become a better defender. He’s only a rookie

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  • #466121
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    Hard to gauge the future of a player through just 30 games. He’s a uber talented PF, and his tenacity and athleticism is most of the time unmatched. Now, it depends on his hardwork, persistence and passion for him to be a Top 5 PF ever. That’s not impossible to do with his talent.

     

    I hope he doesn’t underachieve like Derrick Coleman. Griffin must be a BEAST.

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