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BJ mullens comparison

Why is he being compared to Kamen? I just don't see it. Kamen is slow and not very athletic. Don't get me wrong though Isis a fairly good center. But mullens runs the floor like a deer and has great hops for a 7 footer!!! Maybe it's just me but I just don't see BJ being a future Kamen. I can't think of a good comparison for him right now. I'm too tired but I will post one as soon as I do. Tell me what you guys think???


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Worse version of DeAndre

Worse version of DeAndre Jordan.

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No D

He's not very good at defense either.

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kosta koufus

I think his game is simaler to kosta's but the offense is not quit their yet. Jumping and blocking ability very similar though.

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I agree

He's not as talented skill wise though. I wanna say new era shaq but idk...... That was completely sarcasm by the way.

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should went back 2 school

should went back 2 school dumb ass !!!!!!

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he sucks

he sucks

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Robert Swift

I would say Robert Swift as I don't see anybody else but of course, we could argue about this.

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the comparison should be to

the comparison should be to JaVale McGee

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Mullens=O'Bryant

I see....Patrick O'Bryant. Same position in the draft and same career stats. It's like they're two peas in a pod

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Eddy Curry

Lots of POTENTIAL and ATHLETICISM, but he lacks the HEART and BASKETBALL IQ to fully reach it.

(Bust Alert)

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WHAT THE

BJ MULLENS A EDDY CURRY NO WAY DON'T EVER POST AGAIN.

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MrDuke_1426: It's Racial Stereotyping

Hey Mr. Duke, let me start with my evaluation of BJ Mullens and Chris Kaman.

Chris Kaman
• A very polished Offensive Game with a wide array of moves in and around the glass.
• He seems kind of stiff and mechanical at times. I think one of the last adjectives for him would be athletic.
• High basketball IQ

BJ Mullens
• Other than dunking, he demonstrated zero offensive moves. In sum he has no offense.
• Everyone seems to agree he has tremendous agility for a 7 footer, he’s a good leaper, and overall he's a very athletic center.
• Extremely LOW basketball IQ

I analyzed their games and the only thing I find in common is the fact that they’re both 7 foot white guys who play the center position. There are a lot of guys who are NOT bigots, but they continue to think along racial lines when evaluating players. That means white guys are compared only with other white players while black guys are compared only to other black players.The logical conclusion I must come to is "racial stereotyping".

That's why this site makes that ridiculous comparison of Tyler Hansbrough, an All American who demands double teams every game, with Mark Madsen, a guy who was never double teamed once in his career.

For white power forwards, if they can't find a current white guy in the NBA, they'll go back more than a decade and compare him with Kurt Rambis. For years I remember seeing young white centers always being compared to Jack Sikma who played for Seattle. If you're old enough to remember Sikma, you know he was totally unique. There were no other players like him, but some guys just can't resist, so every young white center that came along back in the 90's was compared with Sikma.

And it's also true for black players. It's about time we stop doing these player comparison along racial lines.

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darko milicic

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Eddy Curry? Are you crazy?

Eddy Curry? Are you crazy? Curry was the best player coming out of highschool his senior year.

Plus Curry actually helped the Bulls and the Knicks for a little. He obviously has some off-court issues, but that's another topic.

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Let's stop comparing BJ

Let's stop comparing BJ Mullens to any NBA player.

It will be no time before he goes down to the D-League. Let's compare him with the D-League guys.

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Rtbt

Are you saying you agree with me?

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Mr Duke

Did you read my player analysis? Other than the fact that both guys are 7 feet tall and white, Kaman and BJ Mullens have nothing in common with one another. In fact, they're almost opposites on the court. Of course I agreed with you Mr. Duke and I also explained why they're compared ["racial stereotyping"].

If you're interested, please read my player comparison below.

Chris Kaman
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• A very polished Offensive Game with a wide array of moves in and around the glass.
• He seems kind of stiff and mechanical at times. I think one of the last adjectives for him would be athletic.
• High basketball IQ

BJ Mullens
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• Other than dunking, he demonstrated zero offensive moves. In sum he has no offense.
• Everyone seems to agree he has tremendous agility for a 7 footer, he’s a good leaper, and overall he's a very athletic center.
• Extremely LOW basketball IQ

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Chris Kaman doesnt have a

Chris Kaman actually doesnt have a high basketball IQ, have you watched him before?

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i'm pretty sure..

BJ Mullens was number one in his class coming out of high school(rivals.com), i could somewhat see the Curry comparison

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i'm pretty sure..

BJ Mullens was number one in his class coming out of high school(rivals.com), i could somewhat see the Curry comparison

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iguodala9 - We Disagree

Hey iguodala9, it looks like we disagree on this one. Let me explain why.

BJ Mullens is a terrific athlete but fails to produce on the court. Why? Because he doesn't yet understand the game of basketball and fails to take advantage of his outstanding talent. Hence he has a low Basketball IQ.

Unlike Mullens, Kaman is not physically gifted. He seems slow and cumbersome at times, but he developed a wide array of shots and nifty little moves that makes him a potent force on offense. In my opinion, a guy who is so productive on offense, even though he as limited physical skills, is using smarts to make himself a valuable NBA center. He certainly isn't doing it because of physical talent.

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Rtbt

Yeah I don't understand why every one compares him to kamen. Just the way you posted the first one seemed like you didn't understand my post. Sorry for misunderstanding.

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Mr. Duke - Why The Comparison

Mr. Duke, yes I did read your post which I thought was excellent. You also asked the question why when you wrote, "Why is he being compared to Kamen?"

Mr. Duke, even though they're complete opposites on the court, I tried to explain why NBADraft.net and other compares BJ Mullen with Kaman. They do it because both players are white.

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Yeah I got that

I jus read your first post again and I completely understand your philosophy. The only time I can recall a comparison between 2 different ethnicities is when nbadraft.net compared budinger to grant hill.

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iguodala9 on Kaman

Hey iguodala9, I didn't see your response to the Basketball IQ comments on Kaman.

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Mullens

So far Eddy Curry and Patrick O'Bryant are the best comparisons.

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A terrible Dwight Howard...

A terrible Dwight Howard... Same game... based on pure athleticism and no post moves to speak of

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I AGREE KAMAN HAS AND GOOD IQ. He was an important peice to Team Germany. Clippers dont let him go.

How many other 7 footers besides pau { by the way kaman is bigger the pau} makes plays like these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfzSEJKDnLc

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Final Verdict = Eddy Curry

It's seems like most of you agree with me. Thanks.

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PITTBulls - Not So Fast

Hey PittBulls, as you know I'm one guy who's been vehement that BJ Mullens made a huge mistake when he decided to leave Ohio State. I also predicted he would be next in a long line of NBA failures of guys who have lots of physical talent but low basketball IQs.

Having said that, it was only a prediction. Remember, he's only 19 years of age so he has lots of room to mature. Even though I would be very surprised, I wouldn't be shocked if Mullens grows up, learns how to work hard, inserts discipline into his game, and becomes an excellent player.

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dang, people ripping BJs

dang, people ripping BJs basketball IQ saying he's dumb because he didn't produce?

ummm, Thad Motta tried using BJ like he used Greg Oden. Oden was a back to the basket player and Motta tried to use Mullens as a back to the basket player.

BJ Mullens is a face up player, essentially he's a PF in a Centers body. he will never be a guy whose going to dominate on the post, he's going to be a guy whose going to use his shot and his athleticism and take the slower centers of the league, play facing them, and make them work from 10 to 15 feet out.

nobody realizes that BJ Mullens can shoot from mid range pretty consistently and he's got great form for a 7 footer.

Think Zydrunas Ilgauskas with athleticism, not quite the shooter but he can be in time.

It's funny, does anybody actually watch Ohio State basketball?

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You can't teach HEART and Work Ethic

Either you have it or you don't. I don't think he has it.

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Brad Miller

If he lives up to his potential and develops, he could end up a lot like the current Bulls center, Miller. Another guy who has shown questionable motivation at points in his career.

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No. Brad Miller has a nice

No. Brad Miller has a nice shot. Very good touch for a big man. He's not at all the athlet Mullens is either. I see no similarities at all.

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Mullens Comparisons and Basketball IQ

CavsDawg, I watched 5 or 6 Ohio State games this year and watched BJ Mullens carefully. I did such because he was rated the number one high school center the previous year. Unfortunately I was extremely disappointed.

The young man was completely lost out on the court. He didn't know what he was doing on offense or defense. As a result, he only played 1/2 the game. When crunch time came around, he was on the bench because the coach didn't have any confidence in Mullens.

Now you can blame the coach but I think the responsibility is on the player.

Having said that, he was still only a freshman. In this spoiled culture we seem to expect instant stardom. It's perfectly normal for a freshman to take 2-3 years to learn the game and mature. But at this point in time, BJ Mullens doesn't understand the game of basketball, hence has a low basketball IQ.

That's why he should've returned to Ohio State for at least one more and preferably 2 more years. There's another guy who's situation was very similar, Cole Aldrich at Kansas, who was smart enough to return for his sophomore year. In fact, he learned so much that he decided to stay @ Kansas for his junior season.

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oh you've seen 5 or 6

oh you've seen 5 or 6 Buckeyes games so you're an Ohio State and BJ Mullens expert....

I've missed less games of Ohio State than you watched. On top of that, I've been watching Ohio State play since the Scoonie Penn/Michael Redd days.

Thad Motta is an old school coach, perimeter based offense where bigs play back to the basket.

Mullens didn't shine at Ohio State because Evan Turner was the primary offensive player and William Buford(another 5 star player) were two perimeter players who can score at will. Motta likes his bigs to play in the post, back to the basket and focus on rebounding. Its why Greg Oden shined. Oden is a true center, he plays back to the basket and uses post moves to score and gets rebounds in the paint.

However I turn and draw your attention to the follow two 7 footers to come through Ohio State. Kosta Koufus last year and BJ Mullens this year. Neither of these guys actually fit the Thad Motta style of offense, and instead of adapting to their styles, Motta was stubborn and continued to coach his style game. Its why Ohio State didn't make the tourney last year and didn't make it out of the 1st round this year.

you sit here, watch a couple games and think you know what you're talking about. I hate to tell you, but you're sitting here trying to tell me about what Mullens looked like out of a couple of games you watched? You automatically assume it's the player, and say he has the low basketball IQ. In reality, its you with the low basketball IQ because you actually need to understand more about the game than just the players, there's also these guys called coaches and coaches have ego's.

your evaluation on BJ Mullens is almost flat out wrong, I'm by no means a basketball expert but i'm am very confident I know a lot more about Ohio State basketball than you.

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to pistonsman

This coming from the guy that said John Bryant was going to turn into a perennial all-star in the NBA.

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HE IS A

THIS IS HIS BEST COMPARSION, PRIMOZ BREZEC WHAT NOT EVEN HIM I WOULD SAY ROBERT SWIFT WHIT STILL TO GOOD, FINAL ONE HE IS A KELVIN CATO.

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CavsDawg and Basketball IQ

CavsDawg, do you think you are mature enough to discuss this without the childish insults?

I am a basketball expert, I've been around the game all my life. When I watch 5 or 6 games and never ONCE see a player do something positive, that tells me a lot. I don't have to watch 30 games to realize Mulllens was completely lost on both ends of the court. I kept waiting for him to do something other than dunk and it never happened.

I will not debate Chad Motta because you know a lot more about him than I do.

You know what CavsDawg, let's wait and watch what BJ Mullens does in the NBA next year. I know what I think's going to happen, but you know what, I hope I'm wrong and you're right.

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he looked lost because he

he looked lost because he was in a brand new style of offense that wasn't suited to his game. you play in 1 system for 4 years and then you need to transition to a whole new style of play....

does that mean NBA players are overrated when they go from 1 style to another and don't adjust immediately?

and then we're going to see what he does in the NBA just next year? i thought you were a basketball expert.... what is the success rate of rookies in the NBA?

you really don't seem like a basketball expert with what you're saying, but whatever you need to tell yourself to try and justify it to yourself.

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CavsDawg and Basketball IQ

CavsDaw, just can't resist the childish insults, can you?

First, you made some excellent points about adjusting to a new system. You didn't mention it, but coming from high school to college is also a big adjustment. Having said that, I've watched college basketball all my life and saw hundreds of young kids going through that very same adjustment. So it's normal for young guys to make mistakes and come up with the occasional bad play.

However, you also get a feel for guys and whether or not they understand the game. I don't care who the coach is or what style is played, basketball is still a game of fundamentals.

On offense you move without the ball, you set picks, and you get into the flow of the offense, and take shots accordingly.

On defense, you understand that in addition to guarding your man, you have to play solid weak side defense, help your teammates, block out, and rebound if you're a big man.

Even the most inexperienced players understand most of the above fundamentals and execute them at some level. You watch them play and they will occasionally do something that's impressive. However, as much as I wanted to see BJ Mullens succeed, I couldn't believe how terrible he looked. He didn't understand weak side defensive concepts, he didn't block out, he didn't know how to get position on offense, and he was thoroughly confused on the offensive end of the court. In essence, he looked like a deer staring into a car's headlights.

And he never once did anything on offense other than dunk. CavsDawg, I don't care how you measure it, all of the above adds up to a low basketball IQ. Now should the coach shoulder some of that blame? I don't know because I'm not at practice, so obviously I don't know if Motta isn't giving him the type of coaching he needs. However, I do know the young man is totally lost out on the court which translates in my world to a low basketball IQ. You can blame the coach if you want, but that doesn't change reality.

Now if you read what I said earlier, you would know that I said confusion isn't unusual for freshman. That's why he should've gone back to school for at least another year. He could have matured somewhat and learned the fundamentals he couldn't apply this past season.

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